TheSubwayStation

You're right. I realize that I made a mistake. Let me make things a little more challenging: NEXT: all Manhattan IRT express tracks (Lexington Av and 7 Av lines) are unusable. The express tracks at Chambers St, Brooklyn Bridge, and 125 St may NOT be used.

Most timers are there for a good reason, IMO. Some aren't. Feel free to ask about any specific timers and what they're for, and someone (possibly me or FanRailer, likely TwoTimer) can tell you. Generally, timers are to: a. Protect sharp curves b. Protect switches (most timers can't tell if they're set for diverging routes) c. Enforce speed limits on down-hill tracks, where a train going too fast might not be able to stop quickly enough if it ran a red signal and a train was ahead (potential rear-end collision). Example: almost all of the East River tubes have timers for this purpose. A few timers are designed to keep trains from overrunning stations (e.g. Utica Av and Broadway Jct , and Jay St , some others too). I don't like these timers; if a train overruns the station, it's the T/O's fault and not a safety hazard. I personally would like to know about the timers on the n/b passing Christopher St; I can't seem to figure out what safety hazard is there. And why do some rarely-used switches need to be protected by timers, while others don't seem to?

Why would rust on the surface of the train be a serious problem? The structure is fine, as far as we know. Just because they look like they're falling apart certainly doesn't mean that they are.

NEXT: all Manhattan IRT express tracks (Lexington Av and 7 Av lines) are unusable. Exception: the express tracks at Chambers St, Brooklyn Bridge, and 125 St may be used so that trains can reach Brooklyn or the Bronx on their respective lines.

Alright, here's some good speed: [media=] [/media]Are overruns common here at West 4 St? You'd think with the downgrade and the way T/O's come blasting in...

That's why they're not going to get scrapped...

It just doesn't feel like New York to me ...Like a different "metro" style subway system. But I'll get used to it quickly, I'm sure, when it actually comes B) .

Probably, yes, because of their light weight. Next is probably the R62/A, and then the R68/A.

I see what you're saying, Lance. It would be nice, though, if Dianne Thompson could try to match the same tone of voice that she used in the original announcements. Hopefully, it won't sound quite as awful as Newkirk Plaza...

It makes sense, understanding that the R142 motors have 147.5 hp while the R62 motors have 115.

Yeah, that's true, although I find the R32s to be much louder than the R62s. Who knows... Anyway, can you tell me how fast the s/b 4 Av express is from Atlantic Av to 36 St? That would be much appreciated.

Listen to this:

The key word being "most", right ? Anyway, I do use wikipedia...

Alright, here's one: R46 train speed: 45 MPH

Does it sound like her voice on the or on the , if you know what I'm talking about?

Good question. I was just looking at them. You can find old websites, including the MTA website, at web.archive.org. The exact URL where I found the useful stuff was http://wayback.archi...://www.mta.info Also, the MTA's description of the subway schedule cuts might interest you: You can find this page specifically at: http://web.archive.o...ceReduction.htm

Wow, that was fast. 40-45 MPH, according to my calculation.

I agree with that. Though, I honestly think that both of you go overboard with arguing the details of the other one's point.

But I think that overall for the forums, it's not such a good thing when lots of threads turn into a one-on-one debate. Neither checkmate or VG8 will ever succeed at convincing the other, and neither will ever admit defeat (as far as I know). The fight will thus go on forever, which can ruin the thread for other people.

But, as TwoTimer said, the whole area approaching the switches is impassible unless the switches are clear for the . The timers are deactivated when there's a crossing. According to him, the timers have nothing to do with the crossing over, but are all about the steep downgrade.

Do you think that the timers are justified, in other words, that the hill is a real safety hazard?

Can anyone tell me if there are timers all along the s/b from Union Sq-14 St to Brooklyn Bridge? It's hard to tell because of all of the usual Lexington line delays...

Yeah. It annoys me when people say, "the is faster than the , the sucks because it has R46s and too many timers," but you guys are right. The doesn't skip very many stops in that section. It's not slow, just not very much faster than the .

I think it's more like 45 MPH. Still, pretty a great run IMO. I thought that Roosevelt Av - Queens Plaza/21 St-Queensbridge was faster. REALLY? Wow. Were you looking at the speedometer?

When I got to the platform at Fulton St today, there seemed to be some pretty bad bunching and overcrowding. There was a Brooklyn bound R32 sitting in the station, filled up with people, and there were more people on the platform who had to wait for the next train (I became one of them). There was also an uptown R46 on the other track. Luckily, another R32 Brooklyn-bound pulled in within a minute (one of the Rockaway Park runs). It was packed, though. Even though the train was pretty close to the one ahead of it, it got going at a pretty good speed in the Cranberry tube. I wonder what was going on...Not normal for the to be so crowded. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that I got one of the SMS R32s. It was a startlingly smooth and quiet ride with perfect HVAC.