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runs in 2 Sections; Utica Av - Wall St, Woodlawn - Grand Central-42 St runs via between 149 St/Grand Concourse and Nevins St Pelham Bay Park - Grand Central-42 St runs via Tunnel Some people will probably tell me that I should have extended the to Brooklyn, but I think that Brooklyn riders would rather have the in the tunnel than the , which only gets them to Lower Manhattan. The can be made to serve Lower Manhattan and Midtown, and I don't think the tunnel can handle both the and the

Some of which are crowded; I don't think we want SAS riders transferring to the to get to Lower Manhattan.

Once again, I think you're overcomplicating things. Even if this is a long-term service change, train riders will go crazy when they find their train suddenly at Essex St, then on 6 Av, and then on CPW. Besides, wouldn't the be held up while the turns around? I think it just makes more sense to have people get on a regular 6th Av train for 6th Av service. E.g., at Jay St, on the Brighton Line, at many locations.

Oh, I misread your post. I thought you meant that the would go from the QBL to the CPW line directly. Now, looking at the track map, I realize that this isn't possible, nor would it make any sense in the fist place. Please forgive my stupidity...

You can call me a foamer if you really want to... runs local between 59 St and Canal St suspended suspended 145 St/Bedford Park Blvd - 34 St - Herald Sq two sections; Coney Island - Whitehall St , 205 St - 34 St-Herald Sq runs via 8 Av/53 St Metropolitan Av - Essex St runs via 63 St, extended to Jamaica Center to replace

How are you going to have the terminating at 21 St-Queensbridge when the and trains are passing through?

NEXT: No trains can terminate at regular IND terminals, which are: 205 St Bedford Pk Blvd 207 St 168 St 145 St World Trade Center Church Av Euclid Av Court Sq Forest Hills-71 Av Jamaica-179 St As an additional challenge, no trains can terminate at 2 Av station. This is going to be hard. B)

How about just cutting the back to Essex St, running the local in Queens, and running the local on CPW. CPW riders are going to see an train and get so confused that they won't get on. Those people might not even know where the regular train goes, let alone this weird "re-routed" .

Plus, do we really need the circus of people switching from express to local and vice versa? I like having express and local trains, but it does have a problem: you have one train that's too slow, and another train that skips popular stops. It might be more convenient to have just one train that straddles between the two. Express service works really well when you have a lot of peak-direction travel, IMO; let's say everyone wants to get from the vicinity of points B and C, to point A. The local can run from point B to point A; the express can run from point C to A, making all stops from C to B, then express from B to A. Thus, you have no crowds of transferring passengers, because riders at local stops (between B and A) will reach their destination before the next express stop. Passengers further from point A (between B and C), who really need express service, will have it, and local riders won't add additional crowds to it. Additionally, it keeps the running time of the local shorter; the express goes a further distance. I don't think the SAS has this setup where express service would work really well.

Mine is this :

But this is as if someone said, "I can't believe it, the makes one more stop in manhattan than it used to; from now on I'm taking the . (Just a hypothetical scenario.)

I assume that you're aware that the is fully local in the Bronx, right?

Weather.com is getting on my nerves. They're so "rain-happy" all of the time. They just said today that there would be thunderstorms all evening, and it never happened. I'm going to start using accuweather more and more.

terminate at Lexington Av/59 St terminates at 57 St/7 Av runs in two sections; Main St - 61 St/Woodside, Times Sq - Hunters Point Av (uses crossover north of station to relay) Metropolitan Av - Essex St via 63 St, local in Queens Church Av - 21 St; trains relay on middle track between 21 St and Court Sq

In the Air Tonight by Phil Collins B). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAUfIJZ0rP4&feature=related

The MTA just posted data about the air quality near the SAS stations: http://www.mta.info/capital/future/sasair.php

This is cool. I'm ready to see more of these FASTRACK-like G.O.s, instead of the ones that drag on for a long time.

Have all trains skip 34 St-Penn Station ! Nah, just kidding. I assume you mean that 34 St-Penn Station is impassible. runs via between W 4 St and 59 St, makes all local stops in Manhattan and Brooklyn suspended Jamaica Center - Lexington Av/53 St 242 St - 96 St; uptown trains run non-stop from 96 St to 137 St runs via between Nevins St and 149 St - Grand Concourse 148 St - Times Sq-42 St extended to New Lots Av Customers who need service south of 42 St, or local service at skipped stations north of 42 St are advised to take trains.

Do you REALLY think that would be more practical than just sending the to Jay St???? Or do you just wish you could see an at Coney Island... Anyway, NEXT: Switches between the express and local tracks at Queens Plaza are unusable. In other words, the can't get between the 53 St tunnel and the Queens Blvd local tracks. Remember, this is rush hour on the QBL that we're talking about. You can't have the run express with the .

I was waiting for someone to say that... Remember: this photo came from Bombardier, not the MTA.

Yeah, that's why I don't "go railfanning" B). Wouldn't this "hell to pay" usually just be re-routing other trains onto the local track?

Remember, bringing R32s to Coney Island yard will mean that CIY has to maintain a third type of car (R160, R68/A, R32). A lot of people have already said that this will raise maintenance costs. And, 207th St yard or Pitkin yard will have to learn a type of car that is new to them (the R68/A), possibly raising costs too. Some people on here really think the MTA is full of such idiots that they would turn down something supposedly this obvious, but I think that if putting R32s on the was the clear solution, they would have done it already. Nobody seems to realize that sometimes the MTA knows something that an ordinary railfan wouldn't.

No problem B).

Lefferts Blvd/Far Rockaway - Utica Av, making all local stops Inwood-207 St/168 St - Jay St-MetroTech If trains can stop at Bedford-Nostrand (I couldn't tell from ThrexxBus's description): Court Sq - Bedford-Nostrand If trains cannot: Court Sq - Nassau Av

NEXT: Because of a Civil War being fought in Brooklyn, no trains can enter the borough. Get re-routing, peeps!