Future ENY OP

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If it's sitting at TU/100th. Give about 24 hours or less its going to be registered and in service.

Copy.. Copy. SBS wrap taken off? It's Gotta be a move. Since FB has 6117, and 6119 from MJQ

5325 & 5331 are out of Brooklyn and heading to Manhattan?

We have 2010 models: 12xx series buses that are still in SBS service. I definitely see those buses retiring soon too along with the 2011 models. The Bronx 12xx buses 1201-1232 have been repainted and rehabbed in some sort. I wonder where the MCH 12xx buses will transfer to next once they receive XD60's? TU/100, WF, KB or GH?

First off: The 6 and 82 poses unique situations. Ulmer Park will NOT give up 120+ routes for a split or overall take over of the 6. and for East New York with the 82. I believe both ENY and UP have clout in the division so things like this could go either way. (It all comes down to territory) ENY central location is on the north side of the division. However, operating south Brooklyn routes with exception of the Q24/56/B83/B84 (North Brooklyn). In one post sometime last week or 2 weeks ago a fantasy re-alignment of the Brooklyn Division could help both north and south Brooklyn. However, with some of those routes depots would have to make more room, possibly build annexes or store buses in other depots in order for those moves to happen. (TA is not in the business to build new depots especially in Brooklyn. Tons of missed Real Estate opportunities in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island meanwhile more luxury apartments are being built. That's another post for another day.) Now, I've always said that the BK Division is the most complicated division. There are routes that totally make sense and belong in said depots. However, there are others that are toss ups and lastly, there are others that completely have no place in said depots. With that said, I'm going to slightly echo what @B35 via Church said yesterday. We need to be careful what we ask for. Don't be surprised if DOB pulls a fast one on all of us here and start to loosen control between East New York and Ulmer Park and both crew rooms will suffer with a possible split or actual swap of the lines. Similar to what happen with the current Fresh Pond and Grand Avenue fiasco with the B38 and Q58 with GA getting full control of both routes. I get it and understand Fresh Pond is not artic ready and that's why both routes had to leave. Slightly off topic: It feels so weird to see a Fresh Pond bus in Canarsie where as the 60 belongs home at East New York. I wonder how that Q54/B60 interline is doing?

Don't like the idea at all. We don't need the TA to pull a MaBSOTA for FB to have all the SBS routes than the Brooklyn Division will be a total mess times 10. Leave ENY with the B82 SBS and Local and besides ENY has more pull than FB (political wise in Brooklyn Division)

That is a copy good sir. To my guess and assumption that the XDE order is a no-go right now. Yikes, that's a shocker right there. So were talking at least 24 mos from now EN could be artic ready?

What you just said @B35 via Church has a valid point. Trust and believe whatever we want and say can have a major effect especially the good folks at 2 Broadway.

First off. No 46 local is leaving Flatbush for Grand Avenue. No need to split the 46. Flatbush could handle its own between the local and SBS and let’s stop with the splitting of the work between depots. Grand Avenue doesn’t need to be on the other side of Brooklyn doing work. That’s already done by the B47. The 82 belongs in East New York and it needs to stay that way. FB doesn’t need to be like Quill to have all of the SBS routes (and this is why the Brooklyn Division is a mess all this spitting of work between depots). Right now the TA is not in the business of building new depots and this is why we are in the mess of splitting work to different depots. When you split work among other depots that causes delays (IMO) where as when the work is already being done by the home depot

I've noticed that too. Especially during the rush hours. All pickups are on the main road. The swing bus is on the service road. Late nights- 10PM-5AM service is on the service road. (From my observations as of late)

Yikes. I goofed off on this one. I totally forgetting the congestion around Utica/Eastern Parkway. However, I wanted to see if there was a direct route. Throwing the 15 on St. Johns would of been OK. However, that faces the other congestion problem on Utica.

You beat me to this. However, this was about the same thing I was thinking. However, I see a slight issue with highlighted portion.. I would have that run up Albany to Eastern Parkway to Ralph heading towards the airport. I'm in full agreement with the rest of the route.

Copy.. (I think you meant MJQ) Also, I'm no spelling error police. However, you got too many errors going on here. (made some corrections)

Yes, I do agree with that. Hopefully with this round of deliveries that could happen. Cannot for see 7615-7662 be the only deliveries for FB. Also do remember we have FP, JA, UP, GA, MJQ all on the board for additional buses too. However, TA is splitting these buses between West Farms which have little to no CNG buses. TA needs to tap into another option order for more XN40's for WF only.

Everything with the is subject to change. 12-18 months from now those buses 6109-6125 may end up staying in Manhattan and East New York receiving a new batch of XD60's or hopefully XDE60's. MCH and FB artics are on the way since the shuttle is a no-go.

6526 is out in Manhattan also. Working the M102 on Lenox. 6597 also out here in the city.

That’s how they are at Grand Avenue. Its done on most of their lines including the B47

Although it wasn’t mentioned on the actual bus moves. It did get mention on the bus fleet section of the post.

Already reported.

How many more coming. Those 2 buses for training and actual revenue service?

Even swap. 1031 for 1072. Saw 1031 in service yesterday on Church Avenue. I believe the blue print buses are slowly making their way to New York City with completion of this XN60 bus order.

No time soon. Meanwhile has brought if not all of the D4500CT Fleet until late 2019 or early 2020 at the earliest.

OA = Manhattan & Bronx Only (MaBSTOA) Manhattan Bronx Surface Transportation Operating Authority. TA = Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island and MCH (Mother Clara Hale-Manhattan Division).

Once a upon of time the B8 ended at Canarsie Plaza. I don’t know if the bus pole is still there on 83rd and Foster. However, I remember vividly that the 8 would go down 83rd. Turn right on Ralph. Stop on Clarendon and turn left unto Beverly. It’s about time to have some form of part-time service for the B8 to Canarsie. I don’t know how i feel bringing the 17 or the 47 in that general area. I feel that the 8 provides direct service. The 17 might work since there is a direct turn to Clarendon/Ditmas from 83rd. As for the 47. Unless there is old route (78) to be returned on Ralph Avenue to help out on the southern most point of the route. I cannot see this going to Canarsie Plaza.