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12 minutes ago, Comrade96 said:

extending the G wont really help those trying to go into manhattan

Waiting 30 plus mins for an train wouldn't help either. Every time the screws up, I have to wait more than 12 mins. Adding extra service isn't going to help because the line is pure trash. The only way to somewhat make things a bit easier is turning the extra trains at canal st, if they don't do that than it's pointless.

They could have extended the to at least keep weekday service every 5-6 mins at local stations and used whatever the isn't using since that's like half of the line fleet that isn't going to be needed. Most people get off at Roosevelt to transfer anyway. The would have been 8 cars instead of 5.

I get work needs to get done but they need to stop with the shit alternatives. Bad enough I have to wait for longer periods of times for the train on weekends when the road goes to shit in Brooklyn

2 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

They should have extended the  to Forest Hills to compensate for the loss of the . Where are you going to fit all these extra  trains?

The service from what i read will be slightly reduced since the will also be running on 53rd st.

4 minutes ago, Vulturious said:

Not my photo, R179 3030-3034 was in service running along the Rockaway huttle. Not sure if it is still running around, I guess they had to start running them along that line at some point since the R46's are bound to be replaced sooner or later.

They ran on the shuttle before as full length trains last summer. This is i think the first time they are running as 5 car units on the shuttle.

25 minutes ago, Kamen Rider said:

Hi, I actually work around R211s and I've not heard any of this.

 

Gotta remember the difference between Crew Room Lawyer BS and actual policy from 2 Broadway.

These were from your co-workers who are on facebook and 2 i know personally. That's why i said rumor in my original post about it.

5 minutes ago, LTA1992 said:

........It's crazy to me that y'all are reaching that far into an empty barrell for reasons why open gangways can't work here. How the absolute foque does the type of gangway influence how thorough a workers checks are? How is the MTAs fault that one of their crew doesn't check properly?

Sorry, but working on an industry where NOT being thorough can get someone injured or killed (film industry for those wondering, specifically lighting aka electrician and rigging aka grip), the fault solely lies with you. If you don't know how to do something, you ain't qualified enough to work on it.

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I never said they can't work here, Let the train run over debris in a river tube with no clearance and see what happens. had years of planning for this and they didn't do it. I'm not against the cars at all but the way has its rules, They should have known this was going to be an issue.

So don't come at me like I'm against the cars when I'm just relating the news from people who actually work in NYCT. 

This is why they are test units. Once they figure out the issues and concerns, Then they'll figure out if they want to order more or not.

36 minutes ago, LTA1992 said:

If London can get the New Tube For London (budgetary issues aside), we have ZERO excuses.

And I dare someone to pull out the "we ain't London" line just so I can go "Exactly! These are for the deep tube lines which are much more constrained environment. Again, what real excuse do you have?"

punishes the crew if they don't investigate enough (if they don't check in between cars) So the Union is in the right here while NYCT is the ones who makes the rules. So The full blame should be directed at . TFL probably doesn't do that hence why it works for them.

4 minutes ago, FLX9304 said:

Rock Park Shuttle uses 2 10 car trains during the summer and 4 5 cars during other seasons, so it would be a perfect fit for the R211Ts to get them. Remember: these are the test pilot cars to see whether or not that the  wants to order an additional T models. Also, there were negative comments from ppl when these trains ran on a special service back in the spring. 

It uses more than 2 10 car sets, More like 4-5 sets since it goes to rockaway blvd.

Also The R211T's (are rumored) to be only on the Rockaway park Shuttle due to the union not wanting them on the road due to the lack of of going in between cars to investigate a BIE (if it goes into a no clearance area when the Train goes BIE, The T/O can't go in between cars to investigate) 

3 hours ago, FLX9304 said:

Ummm the  had R62As 1651-1919 from 1985-2000. So what’s the beef with riders NOT liking these cars? 

Wrong, The line started with 1651 to 1800 in 1985. The R62A's didn't hit the until 1986. Then when the got it's sets it currently has now, the earlier models went to the

3 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

Well there is one way to “increase service”, and that would be to cut the  to Queens Plaza weekends and run the  every 8 minutes via local, but then that affects Manhattan, where every time there is construction on 8 Av, the  has to shift to 6 Av, and work could not be simultaneously done on 6 Av and 8 Av at the same time. In essence, can’t be done. The  are stuck with 12 minute headways on weekends, and sometimes even worse / inconsistent due to flagging elsewhere along the lines outside Queens Blvd

Having the go to queens plaza and relay would cause even more delays to the or if it runs via 53rd and top it off with the CBTC restrictions it makes things worse. The only differnce with the night GO is that they only switch to the express tracks and deadhead to lay up the trains.

3 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

I guess the MTA is gonna have to get crews from other lines (and are open minded) to operate the r211's, while those crews who refuse to get qualified should be sent to operate the NQW trains.

Why is it so hard for train crews and rail fans to understand that old subway cars are not going to last forever??

As for the cameras, it's for their own safety and if they are doing what they suppose to be doing, then they should not be worried about the cameras.

 That is not the reason why they refuse to get qualified on the R211's. It's mainly because of the cameras in the cabs. A good chunk of NYCT workers do not like the old equipment. 

1 hour ago, Cait Sith said:

June MDBF stats are out.

Almost the entire B-Division took a substantial drop in fleet reliability, the R160s shot up in reliability while the R179s got dethroned(largely due to dead motors and other maintenance related issues). R68As went up in reliability, everything else went down.

The A-Division saw some increases with the exception of the R62s. The story that stands out is that the R188 Conversion cars got a MASSIVE increase in reliability for the month of june....going from 346k in May to 1.4 million miles in June. That in itself is incredible.

Corona is the best barn in the whole entire system. They will turn a turd into something great. Before retirement, their R33/36WF fleet had the best MDBF in the entire system. The CBTC issues and everything aside. They always make sure their equipment is in good running shape.

4 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

I was hoping by chance the pilot would arrive in the fall to at least test out the bus then by March 2024 the tech is ready and we could proceed with the order. Dosent seem like it's the case though.

No one want's to burn up in that plastic death trap so i'm glad delayed it.

48 minutes ago, Lil 57 said:

The S46/96 also does this with the S44/94 being a block or two away form the route for a good part of the eastern portion, between Morningstar Road and Bard Ave.

Seems like the  choose feeder routes since most riders would already be transferring to the subway/another bus route so the amount of money lost on fares isn’t as much.

The Bx18A/B acts as a feeder to the  , the Q4 acts as a feeder to the  and the S46/96 acts as a feeder to the Staten Island Ferry which connects to several subway and bus lines in lower Manhattan.

When it comes to the Q4 I can see people passing up the Q5/84/85  between Jamaica Center and  Linden Blvd and crowding on to Q4 buses, negatively affecting people needing to take the Q4 to destinations east of Merrick/Linden after getting off the train.

 

 

This is exactly going to happen. As someone who rode these routes for 28 and a half straight years, Everyone is going to crowd the Q4 within that area and that portion of the route gets a decent chunk of ridership.

8 hours ago, Calvin said:

Eventually, when the  has at least 10 R211s in service, I wonder if they can move an R46 over to Coney Island Yard. They're short on trains since they lost a train of R68s over to Concourse Yard. 

That's probably going to happen, Concourse would probably get 2-3 more R68s back to make their spare factor normal again (pre 2017)  while CI would increase it's spare factor with more R46s.

I rode the R211 from 207th to far rock today (the 1st set) and it's starting to buck already (not surprising) It's not a bad train but the R179s are way way way better in terms of ride quality and smoothness.  I wish they made more of them in 10 car sets because they are nice on the . I might have bashed them in the past but after riding one on the on the way back up. I prefer the R179 over the R211. I just hope that rumor isn't true of them leaving the line because they are the best cars for the . I'm not saying the r211s are a bad train but they are alright. The r179s are even smoother than the R142s.

17 hours ago, Chris89292 said:

R142A Conversion set #7404-7405 just got new LED interior lighting 

source coming from tech and transit YouTube video: 

I feel like the Corona yard just removed the lights from the C car R188 sets and placed them on the R142A conversion sets

Nope, Any car that needs lights replacement are going to get LEDs moving forward as it's much cheaper vs the florescent lights. I wish they just did the whole set instead of being cheap. It looks tacky as hell.

I hope they can fix the R211S route display to instead of it just saying SI, It's not that hard to do since these are leds. The font might be narrower but at least it'll display   I know it's a nitpick

These retards really don't have logic at all. People really don't want these cars at Jamaica but i still think they have a 98% chance of ending up there due to the fact that these cars are built for lines like the and .

These fans want them on the / so damn bad but yet they don't think with logic.

18 minutes ago, Trainmaster5 said:

Until the power goes out and you’re stuck in a river tube somewhere. Then no equipment of any type is gonna help you. Humans can.

They'll never understand until it happens to them. A lot of people in this community are so quick to say we need opto or automated trains with no crew but don't understand that a 2 person crew is always needed and if an emergency they are right there to help. 

38 minutes ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

Yes, once the r46's are gone from the A. 

The 10 car r179's will stay on the A for the foreseeable future.

Once, the C becomes 100% full length, it may be a different story.

 

 

This might not be the case, The R179s might go else where. This is rumored by NYCT employees which i hope isn't true because the R179s do fine on the

Also with how ENY keeps improving it's spare factor, The could go 100% 8 car R179s if they get all of the 8 car R179s cbtc equipped since the can use all of the available R160s 8377-8652,9943-9974 now at ENY. That's if they decide to keep it 8 car R179s just to get rid of the R46s off of 8th ave in time for CBTC. This would also allow the to use the R179s if they get CBTC kits installed. Then when Option I cars start coming in then they can transition the   to being 10 cars

31 minutes ago, nightmare402 said:

not really. the C uses R46's too 

Having 8 and 10 car R179s running on the at the same time would cause confusion, This is why they don't use the 10 car units on the and only the R46s.

27 minutes ago, GojiMet86 said:

Hmm, I thought Prevost was basically done with the US market now?

And Van Hool......that would be really interesting to see. If there is anytime to start competing big with New Flyer, this would be it.

probably paying out of pocket instead of using federal funds since you can't use federal funds if the companies don't have a plant in America due to the Buy America law.

19 minutes ago, Ale188 said:

Wow! That’s really cool to see! Don’t blame me for not seeing the Far Rockaway thing cuz I see it, but besides that, it’s looks like it belongs there. But there’s one problem… WHY THE HELL WOULD THE MTA PUT A 10-CAR SET ON A f**kING SHUTTLE!!?!?!?!? The least they can do is break the 2 sets apart!!

did you not read that it was a put in? Its's a train that starts at Euclid and ends at far Rockaway to start the day. It just happened to be signed up as  

Jesus Christ, Are you okay or something?

It's safe to say that all R160s 8377 and up is CBTC compatible  (non carnarsie) now. The has been using R160's 8613-8652 and 9943-74 besides the 2 4 car units 9950-54 and another 9900 4 car unit)  for over a month now, I rode on 9960 earlier. This is probably the reason why it was easy to send more R179s back to the . Before the was only using 8377-8612. This in turns reduces to spare factor since now the can use the whole ENY R160 fleet besides the ones from the .

I got it mixed up with when they put them in service. It's 2 sets per month for when they go into passenger service but deliveries they'll probably be at least 3+ whole trains per month

24 minutes ago, Princelex said:

Does anyone have any word as to when more R211’s will hit the property? I’m loving watching these trains come to town, I really am. 

I think its about 2 sets per month but i would expect them to deliver more than 2 sets since a good chunk of cars are already completely built. They are going to make up for lost time.

I just remembered that they are going to be doing the 63rd st trackwork GO which is a long term GO, So this might affect some car moves since the   won't be on queens blvd. this makes me think a good chunk of R179s would be moved from ENY to the and the R46s get pushed onto the , transferred to CI or sidelined as more R211s come into service.