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  1. This is what I'm trying to find out. I've never read this report but I've read similar proposals over the years. The Culver ramp up to Ditmas and the IND takeover were written proposals that were delayed because of wartime funding issues, similar to the delay to the IND Fulton St line from Rockaway to Euclid Avenues. I've always been a voracious reader and spent many a day with my head in a book at the Grand Army Plaza library. All sources of info interest me. Nice to realize that there's somewhat of a compilation of these various ideas.Thanks for the heads up.
  2. Where can one find this Unbuilt Ideas Map ? I've read things like the Routes Not Taken and the like but most are round up of different thoughts official and unofficial. Just curious. Remember that back in the day any neighborhood association or real estate speculators could come up with an idea.
  3. That's it. And the only train yard at that time was located in Harlem in Lenox Yard . That was my point. Carry on.
  4. I'm going to be very careful about this proposal because it doesn't make sense to me. How could Lenox yard not be built when it was the only yard for the original IRT ? Check back on the opening dates and when the northern Broadway stations opened in Upper Manhattan and the Bronx. Wasn't there a slogan about X amount of minutes from City Hall to 145th Street when the original subway opened ? Just curious. Carry on.
  5. I stand corrected then. Who pays for the improvements though ? Remember that NYC owns the subway system but the manages/operates it.
  6. I understand your point of contention fully. I think that you are overlooking a major point however. The PA is a creation of the states of New York and New Jersey. The subway system belongs to New York City . LGA, JFK, and EWR are PA territory. NYC, through it’s own Transit Authority didn’t agree with your idea. That’s the reason we had the JFK express which didn’t enter the airport property itself, was more costly than the , and bypassed most of potential ridership base on purpose. The only legal subway service, aside from the AirTrain, would have to be provided by PATH, if my understanding of the laws are correct. Changing said laws would require 2 state legislatures to agree, revisions to the original covenant forming the PA, and the bond holders agreement . There’s also the sticky point about the PATH/NYCT relationship to consider. Big hurdle. Just my opinion though. Carry on.
  7. I think that the person who responded to the original post gave some great advice. I learned about the Bergen Cut Off back in school car and a classmate gave me a heads up over a decade ago about where to find pictures of it and the Second and Third Avenue El line stations. My rabbi and the other instructors explained the layout in the area, including the old tower at Brook Avenue, and the remaining ironwork south of Jackson Avenue. The old tower was still standing, unused, when I started in RTO. That tower and the one at Freeman always interested me. BTW there also was a railroad cut below Westchester Avenue between Jackson and the Cut Off ironwork near the post office that was still in use when I started out. Freight cars used it back then. Maybe some Bronx people would know more about it but one of my coworkers said that the southern end was around St. Mary's Park, if my memory is correct. Believe me when you spend that much time on the train it piques one's interest in your surroundings. My thoughts. Carry on.
  8. You do realize that you're responding to a 10 year old post ? We generally frown on that around here. Carry on.
  9. Correct me if I'm wrong but AirTran projects in this metro area are PANY&NJ services for airport passengers who pay for me right to not mingle with the regular commuters.
  10. Although we know the answer, or think we do, the simple reason pertains to the funding mechanism. A PANY&NJ project or an MTA one ? Carry on.
  11. You've got to add 174th St on the and if you mention West Farms Square. That's a school car double play where I come from 😀.
  12. Nope. We ran 5 car trainsets on the and overnights to preserve the equipment back then. 5 cars from New Lots to 241st- WPR on the deuce was no joke and the round trip from VC around the ferry on the wasn’t much better. The intervals I mentioned only made one 5 car round trip anyway before they were added back to their other half. This practice ended with the arrival of the R62 types and the overhauled SMEE cars. It had nothing to do with the Transit police patrols. I don’t know what the East Side IRT or ran overnights as a rule because I never worked on those lines but when I was working on the work trains I don’t recall ever seeing 5 car trains over there. Even when the ran from Pelham to 125th St I only saw full length trains. I do remember that a 10 car was regularly laid up south of the Brooklyn Bridge station. Now that I think about it there were 3 separate police forces back then. City, Housing, and Transit, all with different duties. I believe with the consolidation of the forces that the lines became blurred. Suburban dudes with their hands on their weapons looking for perps at Van Siclen Avenue on the New Lots line when the crime occurred at Van Siclen on the . That’s when I started equating some officers 👮‍♀️ with the Guardian Angels. Just my recollections. Carry on.
  13. Let me get this message out there for all members of the forums. Happy New Year 🎆. Enjoy your hobby but remember to “ Be Safe “ at all times . Here’s hoping 2021 will be better than 2020. Carry on.
  14. What if I told you that we had NYC Transit Police riding trains in the IRT during the overnights in the ‘80s ? It was a part of the argument over the introduction of OPTO if my memory is correct. It revolved around the concept of 3 sets of eyes observing instead of just two omitting the fact that the operator’s eyes should be looking forward. I know for a fact that officers would board a s/b at 241st St and ride down to Times Square where they would be replaced by another officer who would ride the rest of the run to Flatbush Avenue. What I’m saying is that you can have a police presence on every train. Who’s gonna pay for it is another question altogether. My take. Carry on.
  15. It was posted somewhere because I saw it one night and tried to figure out the last train to stop at certain locations. I was just doing it to kill time early one morning, last train to Pennsylvania Station, Queens Plaza, Nostrand/Flatbush, and the like. Went back to the site later on and couldn’t find the information any more. I didn’t want to download each subway line schedule so I gave up my little game. The last train to leave each terminal before 1 am in either direction on every line. My experience. Carry on.
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