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  1. The B25 isn't going anywhere, IMO. Look no further than the Franklin Shuttle fight. Your B43, B44, B48, B49 paragraph has been discussed by some of our posters for years now. My question for you is didn't you overlook something in your B43 idea? The old B62 segment that the present B43 took over? I mean Graham to Box Street. Just curious. BTW, I'm old school so 43,44,48,and 49 are Kingston-Tompkins, Nostrand, Franklin and Rogers to us Bed-Stuy and Prospect-Lefferts Flatbush folks. Carry on.
  2. It used to be the homeless flocked to lines that had little or no outside segments. That's why the became the homeless line. There were some homeless people who knew the system. They would ride the from 149th-Grand Concourse to Utica or the from 207th down to Euclid and switch to an uptown train. From what I've read in this thread the shuttle would fit right in. I would also point out that the " homeless " population encompasses different types of people. The biggest difference, to me, is that there's the down on their luck types and the mentally ill who frequently have physical problems and cleanliness issues too. It's not a "one size fits all " thing. I talked with a few Transit police back in the day who showed me the difference. I'm not sure if today's NYPD coordinates with the official Outreach people who know the difference. Fact is I doubt that many posters know either. Just my thoughts. Carry on.
  3. I'm hoping that no one believes that any cab door is airtight. C'mon I thought you guys were smarter than that.
  4. That's hourly or more service overnights so the comparison is an apples to oranges one. MNRR is also an agency. Carry on.
  5. Perfectly put. It's too bad that the selfish and stupid folks will ignore you. Carry on.
  6. Perhaps if we had an intelligent National response from Day 1 this discussion wouldn’t be needed. Unfortunately we have an uncoordinated hodgepodge of actions statewide and locally. Look at New Zealand, South Korea, Singapore for example. Masks, distance restrictions and even lockdowns were effective means of combating the virus. Some people in this country seemed to put the economy over human life . Simply put if your population is worried about their own health and that of their loved ones the economy will never fully recover because we will be doing things in fits and starts. I understand both sides of the argument but when it comes down to the nitty gritty I’m gonna listen to the medical experts before any economists , especially the political hacks on television. If a medical professional warned me about riding mass transit because of typhoid or leprosy I’d take the advice to heart. It’s all about how much risk one is willing to take. Feeding your family is one thing but riding for the heck of it is something that I wouldn’t do. Just my opinion. YMMV. Carry on.
  7. Did anyone else see the Newsday article today about service cuts and overtime reductions? I realize that Newsday is considered to be a LI paper but the gist of it is across the board cuts and reductions. Interesting article. Carry on.
  8. My nephew fled to FL at the beginning of the pandemic. His job allowed him to transfer and gave him the tools to work from his temporary home. He’s seen what reopening the economy is doing firsthand. He said that he wouldn’t be surprised if NYC screws up and has to stay in Phase 2 or reverts back to Phase 1. Judging by the responses nationwide the younger people are restless but they are more likely to be spreading the virus than the older people. Just our observations, he’s under 35 in Florida and I’m the ancient New Yorker. Carry on.
  9. Perhaps I could have worded it better but I took into account the service into Essex and the new Sixth Avenue service. What I was getting at was the amount of trains that the bridge and Essex could handle, period. The comparison between the old days, the bridge incident,and the change in the signal spacing. How much service before Marcy-Essex becomes a bottleneck ? Just curious. Carry on.
  10. I’ll go really old school for you. 15 skip-stop to Eastern Parkway and express to Manhattan. 14 - Locals from Rockaway Parkway, Atlantic, Eastern Parkway to Manhattan. Myrtle-Chambers via local to Manhattan. The end result was quicker service from Jamaica, seats at Eastern Parkway from the various put-ins and no real reason for the Myrtle-Chambers crowd to make the cross platform transfer at Broadway and Myrtle. Of course the demographics and ridership patterns have changed, as well as the signal system on the Willy B., but I wonder how much train traffic can be run into Essex St ? I’ll leave the calculations to my fellow posters. Just my musings. Carry on.
  11. Attention Subway Historians. Remember the R11 cars ? Pilot order w 10 cars delivered. Don't think for a minute that the R211 contract can't be cancelled. There may be a cancellation provision in said contract (hard to believe it's not there) where either party can back out. Financial penalty provision written into the contract. How many of the base order cars are even being built yet ? I don't know the answer so it's all speculation IMO. My take. Carry on.
  12. I think we overlook the obvious. NYC, “ the City that never sleeps “, does go to sleep for most people. 24/7 service is something that we posters take for granted but the average New Yorker has little use for. They think the people who ride the subway between 1 and 5 AM are party goers, up to no good, outerborough residents, the homeless, or some combination of those people I named. Coronavirus, the homeless, and subway cleanliness are their concern. I can almost guarantee that if you questioned them about overnight ridership they might show some concern for the working folks but the hipster types and the party folks would be told to use Uber or Lyft. I’m basing my comments on the issue from a Manhattan perspective and as an RTO employee who actually experienced working the overnights. There’s a reason why the LIRR, MNRR, PATH, NJT, and the other regional agencies have had limited or no overnight service even before Covid 19. I can only speak about Brooklyn but in my teens and twenties the main bus routes I used , B41, B44, B35, and the Downtown Brooklyn routes ran more frequent overnight service than they do today. In my opinion the precedent is already there to reduce overnight subway service to half or hourly trains or eliminate it entirely using health, cleanliness, ridership O&D data, safety, infrastructure work, or some combination of all of those as a reason. Depending on how it’s presented to the public there will be little or no public outcry. I don’t think any politician would touch the issue either. Just my take. Carry on.
  13. That’s what I’ve been trying to get across for over a decade. Been around a long time and I have learned that nothing is guaranteed until the final brick is laid and the power is turned on. The Capital Budgets are not etched in stone . Same thing holds for bond issues and contracts when it comes to government. Just my observation. Carry on.
  14. I remember commenting on this issue on a thread at the beginning of the pandemic. It amazes me that throughout the subway threads there are proposals about new cars, CBTC and the like without the posters mentioning the financial fix all mass transit systems will face countrywide. Seems like many people are living in Fantasyland. The real world is much harsher. It’s belt tightening time folks. Elections matter. DC, state and local. My take. Carry on.
  15. This particular terminal has always been problematic at times. When I started out we had 9 car trains midday and evenings so the only confusion was " which train is next ?". Rush hours brought 10 car trains to add to the service. At that time all Lexington service was on the dispatcher's side along with the full time token booth. When the southern terminals were swapped the main Lexington and Seventh Avenue platforms did the same. There were times when two, three or more Lexington trains would arrive back to back to back but the Flatbush dispatcher on the PM was well liked by us that we M/M would climb down and cross the tracks to help clear up the congestion. IMO it's easier today because both lines use the same R142 fleet and no individual car sign changes are necessary. Scroll down and push a button on the console and that's it. Our PM dispatcher had to use the station PA to announce " changeover " to alert the platform conductors that this particular train was headed toward 241st Street and not Dyre. Bronx thru Express. I always thought that wherever you entered that station and a train was about to depart don't run from platform to platform. Take any train to Newkirk Avenue and change there if you must. Not a rocket science concept to me. Carry on.
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