lilbluefoxie Posted December 31, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 31, 2009 Were the R127 Garbage trains built from scratch or did they take R62s and modify them to make those trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted December 31, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 31, 2009 Were the R127 Garbage trains built from scratch or did they take R62s and modify them to make those trains? Built from scratch under their own contract, taking the R62 as "inspiration" for much of what was designed. Also worth pointing out - the R127 is not air conditioned, it has axiflow fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted December 31, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 31, 2009 IIRC They were built from the frame of the R62. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted December 31, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 31, 2009 Built from scratch under their own contract, taking the R62 as "inspiration" for much of what was designed. Also worth pointing out - the R127 is not air conditioned, it has axiflow fans Why are they called R134 too? Is that another fleet or just R127/R134? Any difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Posted December 31, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 31, 2009 IIRC They were built from the frame of the R62. Just like the Flood Cleaner R65s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted December 31, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 31, 2009 Why are they called R134 too? Is that another fleet or just R127/R134? Any difference? If there are any differences, they're very minor. Perhaps an employee can add if there are any minor ones, but I don't know of any differences, nor does anyone I've ever spoken with about the cars. R127 and R134 just refer to the contracts, so since the R134 contract went out a couple years after the R127 order, those cars get their own contract # despite being very similar...just like how an R12 and R14 are basically identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted December 31, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 31, 2009 Also worth pointing out - the R127 is not air conditioned, it has axiflow fans And they were at the time the most expensive order of non-revenue equipment. But I am sure that the Track Geometry trains have now surpassed that mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted December 31, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 31, 2009 Built from scratch under their own contract, taking the R62 as "inspiration" for much of what was designed. Also worth pointing out - the R127 is not air conditioned, it has axiflow fans That also explains why R40s had been used for the past summers to haul work trains instead of the R127s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted December 31, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 31, 2009 That also explains why R40s had been used for the past summers to haul work trains instead of the R127s. Not only R40s but all other 60' SMEE cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted December 31, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 31, 2009 That also explains why R40s had been used for the past summers to haul work trains instead of the R127s. Yup, on the IRT the R33WF got replaced by the R62As, IND/BMTs got R40s but then dropped down to the R32/R33WF loverbirds(ha).. Now we are back with R127/R134s, R33WF and one R32/R33WF that runs from like 11PM to 2AM along Manhattan, Bronx and Brooklyn on the . Now that the heat is gone. And R62As still on the . Built from scratch under their own contract, taking the R62 as "inspiration" for much of what was designed. Also worth pointing out - the R127 is not air conditioned, it has axiflow fans Is it possible to rebuild them with A/Cs? I don't get why the t/a didnt add ACs if all other revenue cars had a/cs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted December 31, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 31, 2009 Is it possible to rebuild them with A/Cs? I don't get why the t/a didnt add ACs if all other revenue cars had a/cs.. The R127/R134 were never intended to be used as revenue cars at any time. It's possible (but a good deal of work) to refit them to take A/C units, but unlikely at the present time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted December 31, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 31, 2009 Is it possible to rebuild them with A/Cs? I don't get why the t/a didnt add ACs if all other revenue cars had a/cs.. Not worth the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted December 31, 2009 Share #13 Posted December 31, 2009 I know I saw it somewhere, does anyone have a link to a list of ALL the contract numbers and what they consist of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted December 31, 2009 Share #14 Posted December 31, 2009 Yup, on the IRT the R33WF got replaced by the R62As, IND/BMTs got R40s but then dropped down to the R32/R33WF loverbirds(ha).. Now we are back with R127/R134s, R33WF and one R32/R33WF that runs from like 11PM to 2AM along Manhattan, Bronx and Brooklyn on the . Now that the heat is gone. And R62As still on the . Is it possible to rebuild them with A/Cs? I don't get why the t/a didnt add ACs if all other revenue cars had a/cs.. Its just a garbage train.It would be a waste of money to add A/C.The employees will be spending more time collecting garbage than chilling in the cars where the A/C is just waisting away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted December 31, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 31, 2009 I know I saw it somewhere, does anyone have a link to a list of ALL the contract numbers and what they consist of? http://www.thejoekorner.com/cars/rroster.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted December 31, 2009 Share #16 Posted December 31, 2009 so they have the same propulsion equipment as the R62's? or upgraded for heavier loads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted December 31, 2009 Share #17 Posted December 31, 2009 If I remember correctly, there are some interior differences between R127s and R134s, but for the life of me I cannot remember what they are. The visible exterior differences are: R127 has 2 ridges on outside, like an R62. R134 has 1 ridge on outside, like an R142A. R127 has NOT IN SERVICE sign with helvetica font. R134 has NOT IN SERVICE sign stenciled on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan05979 Posted December 31, 2009 Share #18 Posted December 31, 2009 are they the same 51' lenth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted December 31, 2009 Share #19 Posted December 31, 2009 are they the same 51' lenth? Yep, they are built to IRT specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted December 31, 2009 Share #20 Posted December 31, 2009 so they have the same propulsion equipment as the R62's? or upgraded for heavier loads? Adtranz/WH E-Cam Propulsion system with WH 1447J DC Traction Motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan05979 Posted December 31, 2009 Share #21 Posted December 31, 2009 Yep, they are built to IRT specs. ah ok, they look shorter in pics but its just cause of that one door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted January 1, 2010 Share #22 Posted January 1, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted January 1, 2010 Share #23 Posted January 1, 2010 If I remember correctly, there are some interior differences between R127s and R134s, but for the life of me I cannot remember what they are. The visible exterior differences are: R127 has 2 ridges on outside, like an R62. R134 has 1 ridge on outside, like an R142A. R127 has NOT IN SERVICE sign with helvetica font. R134 has NOT IN SERVICE sign stenciled on. Good catches. Never noticed those before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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