EE Broadway Local Posted February 3, 2010 Share #1 Posted February 3, 2010 I think we all know about Rogers Junction in Brooklyn where the diverge and meet, but where are other bottlenecks/congestion points in the system (particularly weekday rush hours)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted February 3, 2010 Share #2 Posted February 3, 2010 Roosevelt Ave Jackson Heights on the southbound express track(E) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted February 3, 2010 Share #3 Posted February 3, 2010 59 Street/Columbus Circle- I've been on a train that sat for 5 minutes between 7th Avenue and 59 Street Between 75th Avenue and 71st/Continental-there's always congestion where the and merge Between Dekalb Avenue and Manhattan Bridge East 180 Street-this problem is worse during the PM rush. The , on the express track, has to cross over to the Dyre (local) track at East 180 Street. The , on the local track, has to cross over to the center track to 241st. This causes congestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted February 3, 2010 Share #4 Posted February 3, 2010 Southbound Rockefeller Center middle track(F). I have been on the several times stuck between 57 and 6av and Rockefeller Center waiting for the to clear out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted February 3, 2010 Share #5 Posted February 3, 2010 Between DeKalb and 36th Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted February 3, 2010 Share #6 Posted February 3, 2010 The 3 main places... -135 St interlocking -Myrtle-Broadway Interlocking -Rogers Av interlocking Those 3 places are spots where lines diverge WITHOUT some kind of flyover so they're prone to congestion. Other hotspots include... -Gold St interlocking (AKA north of DeKalb) -Main St interlocking (rush hours, other times not really) -Homeball Alley (AKA between 135 & 145 sts on the () -36 St interlocking & only, not so much & Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted February 3, 2010 Share #7 Posted February 3, 2010 not so much & It is Manhattan bound. My usual train always manages to get stuck behind an @ 36th St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted February 3, 2010 Share #8 Posted February 3, 2010 Queens Plaza northbound.Being stuck waiting on the for the to get out of the 63rd street connection. :mad::tdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted February 3, 2010 Share #9 Posted February 3, 2010 It is Manhattan bound. My usual train always manages to get stuck behind an @ 36th St. Its cuz that was stuck behind a that was stuck behind a ...see how the cycle goes lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted February 3, 2010 Share #10 Posted February 3, 2010 59 Street/Columbus Circle- I've been on a train that sat for 5 minutes between 7th Avenue and 59 Street Between 75th Avenue and 71st/Continental-there's always congestion where the and merge Between Dekalb Avenue and Manhattan Bridge East 180 Street-this problem is worse during the PM rush. The , on the express track, has to cross over to the Dyre (local) track at East 180 Street. The , on the local track, has to cross over to the center track to 241st. This causes congestion The problems at East 180th St only began a few years ago when trains started switching tracks south of the station instead of north of the station. The expresses always came into the station on the middle track and the used the outside track. Now, by rule, each or crossing south of the station must cross over at 10 mph or less. This slows down the operation of both lines, WPR and Dyre, because prior to this change trains could enter the station at maximum allowable speed. Also the train leaving E. 180th St n/b from the middle track has to cross back to the outside track south of Bronx Park East again at 10 mph or less. This slowdown and bottleneck are self-inflicted and unwarranted IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted February 3, 2010 Share #11 Posted February 3, 2010 Its cuz that was stuck behind a that was stuck behind a ...see how the cycle goes lol Around the time my gets to 36th, the arrives, then the arrives and waits for the that was behind the and when the finally gets into the station the train is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennyj17 Posted February 3, 2010 Share #12 Posted February 3, 2010 The problems at East 180th St only began a few years ago when trains started switching tracks south of the station instead of north of the station. The expresses always came into the station on the middle track and the used the outside track. Now, by rule, each or crossing south of the station must cross over at 10 mph or less. This slows down the operation of both lines, WPR and Dyre, because prior to this change trains could enter the station at maximum allowable speed. Also the train leaving E. 180th St n/b from the middle track has to cross back to the outside track south of Bronx Park East again at 10 mph or less. This slowdown and bottleneck are self-inflicted and unwarranted IMO. This bottleneck is a PIA during the PM Rush....The is suppose to be the Express during the Rush so how is it that if the meets the @ West Farms the is given priority and the is stuck waiting for the to clear 2 switchs the one before 180 and the 1 after...I dont know if the Dyre Av is affected by waiting for the to clear that 2nd switch but the to Nereid sure is sometimes we'll sit there for almost 5 mins. I guess the nice part about this is if we have long wait to get into 180th we'll stay on the express and go non stop to Gun Hill. I swear as long as we've been stuck between West Farms and 180th a conga line of (5)'s has to build on the express track as far back as Prospect or Jackson.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted February 3, 2010 Share #13 Posted February 3, 2010 Around the time my gets to 36th, the arrives, then the arrives and waits for the that was behind the and when the finally gets into the station the train is gone. Well played good sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennyj17 Posted February 3, 2010 Share #14 Posted February 3, 2010 Around the time my gets to 36th, the arrives, then the arrives and waits for the that was behind the and when the finally gets into the station the train is gone. Im sorry how are you missing the if your is arriving with the ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted February 3, 2010 Share #15 Posted February 3, 2010 Should have been more clear, I meant before it arrives but when it's close to the station, right before the West End line merges with the 4th Avenue local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennyj17 Posted February 3, 2010 Share #16 Posted February 3, 2010 So you guys have to sit there and allow 3 trains to pass thru 36 St before you guys can enter.....WOW if they make the wait for the then they should make the wait for the ....But I guess that's tooo much common sense... Or either the arrives with the for exp/local transfer and the arrives with the for transfers. This make the most sense....UGH I would so fustrated everyday....Can you try transferring back at 59th for the if you're getting on south of 59th of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted February 3, 2010 Share #17 Posted February 3, 2010 All I know is that I won't be missing the when it gets the boot out of South Brooklyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 3, 2010 Share #18 Posted February 3, 2010 The biggest point of congestion on the subway is the doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennyj17 Posted February 3, 2010 Share #19 Posted February 3, 2010 I wouldn't count on that, the state and city always comes up with something at the 11th hr.... And Paterson is running for GOV again....He'll pull money out from somewhere trust...if the kids have to pay for their Metrocards, his days as governor are DONE! The media will crush him, and Outrage will be greater than ever... The MTA knew this, which is why they pulled the Free student card....Bloombucks just skated by with time (he was able to get re-elected before all this hit the fans), otherwise his neck would be out their too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted February 3, 2010 Share #20 Posted February 3, 2010 I wouldn't count on that, the state and city always comes up with something at the 11th hr.... And Paterson is running for GOV again....He'll pull money out from somewhere trust...if the kids have to pay for their Metrocards, his days as governor are DONE! The media will crush him, and Outrage will be greater than ever... The MTA knew this, which is why they pulled the Free student card....Bloombucks just skated by with time (he was able to get re-elected before all this hit the fans), otherwise his neck would be out their too. Patterson can't afford it. He's only got like 800K in the bank compared to the millions Cuomo has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 3, 2010 Share #21 Posted February 3, 2010 Patterson can't afford it. He's only got like 800K in the bank compared to the millions Cuomo has. There is no way in hell Paterson will be elected gov again. I have a better chance of being elected than him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennyj17 Posted February 3, 2010 Share #22 Posted February 3, 2010 The MTA just handed the Gov a big F-U with threatening the Student MetroCards..... Plus the MTA spun it so that all eyes are ready to blame the political leaders instead of the MTA themselves and there's blame to go around everywhere....why do you think you have all these Representitives out there saying "Blame the MTA, Blame the MTA" they know that if these cuts go down...they're political careers are over..they have to make the Vilian the MTA again or come up with the money... There almost nothing Patterson can do to make the MTA look like the true vilian again...So he'll need to come up with the money and make this an afterthought or he's done Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted February 3, 2010 Share #23 Posted February 3, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted February 3, 2010 Share #24 Posted February 3, 2010 3. 96th St. . What? There's no merging of the trains at 96 st onto a single track uptown or downtown. You must be talkin some once in a blue moon G/O because I never have to wait before going into 96th in either direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted February 3, 2010 Share #25 Posted February 3, 2010 The biggest point of congestion on the subway is the doors. To be more exact, it's the people that are the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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