xRatedR4Renex Posted April 15, 2008 Share #1 Posted April 15, 2008 since I'm not really smart about the MTA. I just want a clear idea to what an IRT or whatever its called is? Oh and also can anybody tell me when all the trains will be replace with the new ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted April 15, 2008 Share #2 Posted April 15, 2008 The IRT (Interborough Rapid Transit) is what used to run A Division lines (numbered lines). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted April 15, 2008 Share #3 Posted April 15, 2008 I guess i can help you out with some of those questions..... The IRT stands for interbough rapid transit. And these are the number lines . Trains get replaced by age some of the old trains are too young or in such good shape that they cant be retired yet. The "old" trains that are currently getting retired are the R38s R40s and R42s which on the ( and lines. The system will be 100% New trains by 2022. The R32s are the oldest cars in the fleet but there holding up so great that they cant be retired yet. And the R62/A and the R68/A are just too young to get retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipaclansite Posted April 15, 2008 Share #4 Posted April 15, 2008 IRT is the Interborough Rapid Transit one of the first companies to build the subway in New York City. I believe it was in October of 1904, but I might be wrong. The IRT built the following lines Basically all the numbered lines. As of now the MTA is in the process of replacing the older cars, by purchasing new cars and testing them on several lines. The trains consist of mainly R142/a's which are the newer class of trains. The R143's and R160's mainly run on the and the Lines. More recently now the lines also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted April 16, 2008 Share #5 Posted April 16, 2008 Don't forget, the 42 Street is also an IRT line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted April 16, 2008 Share #6 Posted April 16, 2008 (6x)(7x) :cool: - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRatedR4Renex Posted April 16, 2008 Author Share #7 Posted April 16, 2008 so why were the and trains replaces 1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted April 16, 2008 Share #8 Posted April 16, 2008 so why were the and trains replaces 1st? Because at that time the redbirds aka greatbirds were the oldest cars in the fleet. So the MTA replaced them with R142/As.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRatedR4Renex Posted April 16, 2008 Author Share #9 Posted April 16, 2008 why is it that only the numbered trains are IRT trains and not the lettered trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted April 16, 2008 Share #10 Posted April 16, 2008 why is it that only the numbered trains are IRT trains and not the lettered trains? I think it is because the IRT came first, and also to keep from confusing things between the two divisions, because the IND/BMT and IRT actual physical tunnels and platforms etc have different dimensions to fit different size rail cars. It has been stated by several officials that any new service would use the IND/BMT standards, leaving the original IRT lines with and no more because of the increased capacity of those newer standards.. - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted April 17, 2008 Share #11 Posted April 17, 2008 -The IND lines had those designations since the IND opened in 1932. -When the IND opened, the IRT did not have any designations until sometime in the 1960s. -Due to Chrystie Street opening back in 1967, the BMT took the letters near the end of the alphabet. -That is why the IRT uses numbers instead of letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRatedR4Renex Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share #12 Posted April 17, 2008 So what do they call the lettered train lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted April 17, 2008 Share #13 Posted April 17, 2008 So what do they call the lettered train lines? The and trains (and soon to be the ) are all IND lines. The IND was made by the city back in the 1930s and 40s. The IND took over the private companies (BMT/IRT) and unified the whole system like what it is today. IND standards for train dimensions mean the car is 60' long and 10' wide. Some cars are 75' long and 10 feet wide. Instead of having 10 cars these trains have eight. (adds up to 600'). The and trains are BMT lines. They were originally numbered but converted to letters later on. BMT standards are the same as IND standards (10 feet, 60' cars). The and 42nd Street make up the IRT. The IRT was a private company (Interborough Rapid Transit) that was responsible for making the first subway in NYC. IRT dimensions for cars mean the train is 51' long, and 7 or 8 or so feet wide. The IRT also made dual-operated lines with the BMT, for example the east of Queensboro Plaza. Ergo, the east of QBP can be converted to BMT standards with relative ease. Today, the numbered lines are referred to as the A Division. The lettered lines are referred to as the B Division. The BMT Eastern Division () can't use 75' long cars. The platforms are only long enough for 480' trains, or 8 60 foot cars. C Division, you'll hear once in a while and refers to work cars. These cars are built to A Division standards for use in the whole fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebbieprops Posted April 18, 2008 Share #14 Posted April 18, 2008 I'm assuming the Rockaway Park is an IND line, since it supplements the . I'm wondering, though, what the Prospect Park shuttle is - IND or BMT? Does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted April 18, 2008 Share #15 Posted April 18, 2008 Prospect Park Shuttle is BMT since its physically connected to the BMT Brighton line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebbieprops Posted April 18, 2008 Share #16 Posted April 18, 2008 Prospect Park Shuttle is BMT since its physically connected to the BMT Brighton line. Okay, I get it. Thanks for the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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