Fresh Pond Posted February 9, 2011 Share #26 Posted February 9, 2011 Wirelessly posted via (BlackBerry8520/5.0.0.900 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100) Someone will still cry "Spring Creek should get something." They're all going to one depot (that has too many buses as is).... and one depot only. Almost all of CP buses are of retirement age. Spring Creek has hybrids and if needed, can get a few more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share #27 Posted February 9, 2011 I have three questions1. When the new CNG's come and the C40LFR's are they going to replace all the Orion V CNG's from CP. 2. Does this include SC's Orions getting replaced. 3. When do these 74 CNG buses arrive to CP LOL 1. Yes, all of CP's CNG's will be replaced when the new buses come in. 2. Yes SC is going back to CNG ops, and the hybrids will go elsewhere. 3. That depends on when the contact is awarded. Someone will still cry "Spring Creek should get something." They're all going to one depot (that has too many buses as is).... and one depot only. Even though SC's O5's are reaching retirement age as well, they don't need any as bad as CP. They have hybrids for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share #28 Posted February 22, 2011 Ok, I am being told everything should pretty much stay the same now that the MTA will order an addition 74 CNG buses. This would bring the near term total to 202 new CNG buses for the division. The first of which will begin delivery this year. This alone will be more than enough to replace the entire fleet of aging Orion V's at the College Point Depot. *45 New Flyer C40LFR's *83 40 foot CNG buses(believed to be an option for further C40LFR's) *74 40 foot CNG buses(To be supplied by either New Flyer or Orion pending bid outcome) MTA Bus will also get Real Time Customer Information with the delivery of new buses starting in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted February 22, 2011 Share #29 Posted February 22, 2011 Ok, I am being told everything should pretty much stay the same now that the MTA will order an addition 74 CNG buses. This would bring the near term total to 202 new CNG buses for the division. The first of which will begin delivery this year. This alone will be more than enough to replace the entire fleet of aging Orion V's at the College Point Depot. *45 New Flyer C40LFR's *83 40 foot CNG buses(believed to be an option for further C40LFR's) *74 40 foot CNG buses(To be supplied by either New Flyer or Orion pending bid outcome) MTA Bus will also get Real Time Customer Information with the delivery of new buses starting in 2012. Yess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted February 22, 2011 Share #30 Posted February 22, 2011 Ok, I am being told everything should pretty much stay the same now that the MTA will order an addition 74 CNG buses. This would bring the near term total to 202 new CNG buses for the division. The first of which will begin delivery this year. This alone will be more than enough to replace the entire fleet of aging Orion V's at the College Point Depot. *45 New Flyer C40LFR's *83 40 foot CNG buses(believed to be an option for further C40LFR's) *74 40 foot CNG buses(To be supplied by either New Flyer or Orion pending bid outcome) MTA Bus will also get Real Time Customer Information with the delivery of new buses starting in 2012. When like in August they will start coming to CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted February 22, 2011 Share #31 Posted February 22, 2011 Come on:mad: I wish the buses would by August. The damn Long Island bus go their new buses right away:cry: That's because the CNG tanks on their buses were done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 23, 2011 Share #32 Posted February 23, 2011 And those things were done long before the 12 year mark in 2009. That's why when the NG CNGs came in, almost all of the 1400s were scrapped except for the best performing ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share #33 Posted February 23, 2011 When like in August they will start coming to CP. The only ones I can personally confirm are the 45 coming from Flyer next winter. The Fed order depends on the award date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share #34 Posted November 3, 2011 The time had finally come for the 74 + 30 option CNG award. Final pricing is due to the MTA (from New Flyer & Orion) on Friday November 4th, and the award is scheduled for December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted November 7, 2011 Share #35 Posted November 7, 2011 The time had finally come for the 74 + 30 option CNG award. Final pricing is due to the MTA (from New Flyer & Orion) on Friday November 4th, and the award is scheduled for December. I would also like to see Orion get the award. They deserve it. Also, from what I've seen, the Orion CNGs on Long Island Bus run well and sound great. I would love to see those in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted November 7, 2011 Share #36 Posted November 7, 2011 Ok, I am being told everything should pretty much stay the same now that the MTA will order an addition 74 CNG buses. This would bring the near term total to 202 new CNG buses for the division. The first of which will begin delivery this year. This alone will be more than enough to replace the entire fleet of aging Orion V's at the College Point Depot. *45 New Flyer C40LF's *83 40 foot CNG buses(believed to be an option for further C40LF's) *74 40 foot CNG buses(To be supplied by either New Flyer or Orion pending bid outcome) MTA Bus will also get Real Time Customer Information with the delivery of new buses starting in 2012. NEW Flyer please hear KR's call and come to the North Oh Please ,I want QV and CS to cry over our new packages:)...oh I forgot STARTALL scraping V CNGUNKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share #37 Posted November 14, 2011 Best and Final offers are in, and now under review at Zerega. It will be interesting to see how this one plays out. Orion bid the 3G which is very similar to the LIB NG's Those buses were already EPA10 compliant. If MTA goes with Orion they can directly compare the new Orion VII with the New Flyer C40LF. New Flyer bid the LF from what I was told. I have yet to confirm myself, so we will see. If so, these buses would follow the current order. MTA currently holds options on both New Flyer and Orion CNG buses right now. This could go either way. I would also like to see Orion get the award. They deserve it. Also, from what I've seen, the Orion CNGs on Long Island Bus run well and sound great. I would love to see those in the city. That would be very interesting. Especially since this entire order is for MTA Bus. NEW Flyer please hear KR's call and come to the North Oh Please ,I want QV and CS to cry over our new packages:)...oh I forgot STARTALL scraping V CNGUNKS Well, it's time to get it started! C40's coming in right now, and what's behind door #2 is coming next! The O5 CNG's have officially come to the end of their service lives! All of them!!!:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted November 16, 2011 Share #38 Posted November 16, 2011 Whatever they're using in LI with the NG CNGs, it'll work for whatever CNGs the city will get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share #39 Posted December 3, 2011 It is now December. Time for another bus procurement.:cool: If MTA goes with New Flyer for this order, it is my understanding they would still be C40LF's. IMO, it would make sense to go with Orion. This gives MTA a chance to evaluate the E10 layout, and have more buses built in New York. The current New Flyer order has an "option 2" for 90 Buses. C40LFR's would be great!! And it's the perfect number of buses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted December 3, 2011 Share #40 Posted December 3, 2011 More "new" C40LFs? I thought the current "new" fleet was just built with C40LF parts from an unbuilt CTA order. I'd love to see C40LFRs for once, every other city has gotten them, why not NYC, a city of people that actually ride the bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share #41 Posted December 3, 2011 The CTA base order was for 140 buses with 4 options for an additional 760 buses. I'm not sure how many they built, or how many they have parts for. However, New Flyer can continue to build as many LF's as they want. They have the resources, and it keeps the maintenance costs super low for the MTA. It's much more economical to have all LF's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZGuy Posted December 12, 2011 Share #42 Posted December 12, 2011 ]The O5 CNG's have officially come to the end of their service lives! All of them!!!:cool: Not cool.....not cool at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share #43 Posted December 12, 2011 Not cool.....not cool at all! Unfortunately, most all of them are shot to hell. I do feel you though. There are a few good ones still left, and it would be nice to see a few around. Especially since they are the last of the ex-pbl buses. I'm sure a couple will become museum buses for Command and QSC. As long as they keep a few of the 6300 series buses for a while I can live. The last of the CNG's will probably be around until the end of 2012, but their days are numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted December 12, 2011 Share #44 Posted December 12, 2011 I love the Orion V CNG, and it took me a while to warm up to the old L10G Orions here, because by the time I knew what they were, there were only 10 left. I also liked how cool the blue backlights looked on the destination signs (although blue on green doesn't work too well) were on the city Orion Vs. I just don't like the padded seats they have, like in 9827 from WF. I'd rather have the seats they used in the RTS or the Orion VIIs, unless they're switching those out in the city now, or the soft seats from the suburban/express CNGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 12, 2011 Share #45 Posted December 12, 2011 Unfortunately, most all of them are shot to hell. I do feel you though. There are a few good ones still left, and it would be nice to see a few around. Especially since they are the last of the ex-pbl buses. I'm sure a couple will become museum buses for Command and QSC. As long as they keep a few of the 6300 series buses for a while I can live. The last of the CNG's will probably be around until the end of 2012, but their days are numbered. THEY BETTER SAVE TWO they should have saved 708 I Hope they save one of the Triboro ones too To me they are the best ones I love them 7200's as well as the 9800's (QSC) they have the best Backfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted December 12, 2011 Share #46 Posted December 12, 2011 They should save 708 and paint it back into the Command scheme. Take 7253 and paint it into the Triboro scheme. As well as to saving one of the 9800s and paint that in the Queens Surface scheme. But knowing how the MTA operates, they would probably take a random CNG and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share #47 Posted December 13, 2011 It's time!!!! And the award goes to..... New Flyer Industries of America! At this time, it appears to be more C40LF's. I am currently awaiting a phone call on the details. Most of which should be spelled out next week in the contract outline. Preliminary assignments: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/f90/updated-c40lf-assignment-33712.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted December 13, 2011 Share #48 Posted December 13, 2011 They should save 708 and paint it back into the Command scheme. Take 7253 and paint it into the Triboro scheme. As well as to saving one of the 9800s and paint that in the Queens Surface scheme. But knowing how the MTA operates, they would probably take a random CNG and leave it at that. 7252 and 7219 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted December 14, 2011 Share #49 Posted December 14, 2011 It's time!!!! And the award goes to..... New Flyer Industries of America! At this time, it appears to be more C40LF's. I am currently awaiting a phone call on the details. Most of which should be spelled out next week in the contract outline. Preliminary assignments: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/f90/updated-c40lf-assignment-33712.html lol Wth is Orion bidding that NF is beating them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share #50 Posted December 14, 2011 lol Wth is Orion bidding that NF is beating them? On the last bid it was only like $2,000 per bus. But with 385 buses on the way, I'm sure they made them an excellent offer. Both Orion and New Flyer had options out with MTA. Orion off LIB, and New Flyer off the initial 135. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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