Amtrak7 Posted March 19, 2011 Share #1 Posted March 19, 2011 I just realized that NJT's NABI order is nearly 900 buses! Does NJT plan to replace every non-artic, non-MCI bus it owns with this fleet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyctRman1278 Posted March 19, 2011 Share #2 Posted March 19, 2011 To replace the Metro Ds and the 1995 RTS's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikan Wilhelm Posted March 19, 2011 Share #3 Posted March 19, 2011 To replace the Metro Ds and the 1995 RTS's i just wonder which garage is next im still hoping they would hurry up with the Hilton Garage so i can start riding those on the 1 and 25 haha :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted March 19, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted March 19, 2011 To replace the Metro Ds and the 1995 RTS's According to TTMG, there are only 175 1995 RTS units left. There's more NABI's than that left to be delivered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyctRman1278 Posted March 20, 2011 Share #5 Posted March 20, 2011 o wow A&C needs more buses for the bergen line only have 23 buses in total and im guessing the private lines are gettin them as well not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJokaPlaya Posted March 20, 2011 Share #6 Posted March 20, 2011 @NYCt: And the 1999/2000 Nova's. They're getting replaced too eventually with the NABI's. That's what I heard while I was at NJT. As for them getting NABI's, no way in hell it'll work. IMO: A NABI bus has less room than a Nova. They'll be so cramped inside, it'll look like sardines. in there. Honestly, and I know it'll never happen, but if A & C had the cash, they need artics. @Mikan: I'm not 100% sure but the last I heard, Hilton's Flxible's are gone. They were only for the 107/108. Now they use nothing but NABI's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikan Wilhelm Posted March 20, 2011 Share #7 Posted March 20, 2011 @NYCt: And the 1999/2000 Nova's. They're getting replaced too eventually with the NABI's. That's what I heard while I was at NJT. As for them getting NABI's, no way in hell it'll work. IMO: A NABI bus has less room than a Nova. They'll be so cramped inside, it'll look like sardines. in there. Honestly, and I know it'll never happen, but if A & C had the cash, they need artics. @Mikan: I'm not 100% sure but the last I heard, Hilton's Flxible's are gone. They were only for the 107/108. Now they use nothing but NABI's. oh i knew that :eek: i really meant the nova's they have still though im not sure when they will start with those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJokaPlaya Posted March 20, 2011 Share #8 Posted March 20, 2011 Friend of mine back at Orange garage said this year, probably before the fall for Orange and Hilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtattrain Posted March 21, 2011 Share #9 Posted March 21, 2011 To replace the Metro Ds and the 1995 RTS's I think something else has to go too; there will still be like 500 NABIs left after the retirement of the RTSs of 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJokaPlaya Posted March 21, 2011 Share #10 Posted March 21, 2011 Yep. All the Nova 1999/2000 Models (Nova-B's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyctRman1278 Posted March 21, 2011 Share #11 Posted March 21, 2011 They said something about the 30fts as well but the Nabi's takes up space inside and some of greenvilles are falling apart inside and there was suppose to be the Nabi Campo buses coming up here but that order was canceled and got to stick with theses Re-dubbed Nabi 416s its a shame that NJT is just sticking to theses Buses its just sad that MTA has so many diff varieties but yet NJT only has one type of bus they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share #12 Posted March 21, 2011 According to TTMG, NJT has 823 RTS' built 2000 or earlier, and 16 (including hybrids) built in 01/02. Given that the order was for 1,145 NABI's, I think they can replace 823 RTS... unless there were 300 Flxibles (and I don't know anything about them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyctRman1278 Posted March 21, 2011 Share #13 Posted March 21, 2011 great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted March 21, 2011 Share #14 Posted March 21, 2011 They said something about the 30fts as well but the Nabi's takes up space inside and some of greenvilles are falling apart inside and there was suppose to be the Nabi Campo buses coming up here but that order was canceled and got to stick with theses Re-dubbed Nabi 416s its a shame that NJT is just sticking to theses Buses its just sad that MTA has so many diff varieties but yet NJT only has one type of bus they want New Jersey Transit is not worried about what busfans think or want. Having many bus types presents a problem. After all the nabis get here most garages will be all nabi and mcis with the exception of the newark routes(13) which run those neoplans and fairview. Howell will be the only 100% mci garage....a nabi will never see the light of day on a howell route. The mta has a ton of bus types because dont know what the hell they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share #15 Posted March 21, 2011 New Jersey Transit is not worried about what busfans think or want. Having many bus types presents a problem. After all the nabis get here most garages will be all nabi and mcis with the exception of the newark routes(13) which run those neoplans and fairview. Howell will be the only 100% mci garage....a nabi will never see the light of day on a howell route. The mta has a ton of bus types because dont know what the hell they want. So are any RTS' going to survive, and at what depot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted March 21, 2011 Share #16 Posted March 21, 2011 So are any RTS' going to survive, and at what depot? Im not sure if any Novas will survive. But time will tell. Down here at the Egg Harbor Garage we have the 1999-2000 Novas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyctRman1278 Posted March 21, 2011 Share #17 Posted March 21, 2011 damn and the 2001 novas 1579 and yup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted March 21, 2011 Share #18 Posted March 21, 2011 damn and the 2001 novas 1579 and yup? Not sure, but time will tell. Buses will go where needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyctRman1278 Posted March 21, 2011 Share #19 Posted March 21, 2011 o i got a few questions can you PM me cause its about me wantin to be a bus operator for NJT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkD329 Posted March 22, 2011 Share #20 Posted March 22, 2011 Im not sure if any Novas will survive. But time will tell. Down here at the Egg Harbor Garage we have the 1999-2000 Novas. Egg Harbor will probably be the LAST garage to get NABIs. South Jersey was lucky to be high on the lists to get the NABI suburbans [5th after Fairview, Greenville, Meadowlands and Orange. Newton Ave was 6th, then Hilton and Market St]. and the NABI Transits [Hamilton was first, then Newton Ave got the second batch to replace some of the suburbans that went up north, then Ironbound, Red & Tan Hudson, Market St, Hilton and now Greenville.]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted March 22, 2011 Share #21 Posted March 22, 2011 Egg Harbor will probably be the LAST garage to get NABIs. South Jersey was lucky to be high on the lists to get the NABI suburbans [5th after Fairview, Greenville, Meadowlands and Orange. Newton Ave was 6th, then Hilton and Market St]. and the NABI Transits [Hamilton was first, then Newton Ave got the second batch to replace some of the suburbans that went up north, then Ironbound, Red & Tan Hudson, Market St, Hilton and now Greenville.]. Figures l0l. Well Newton Av & Washington TWP had some real shytboxes running on the road, finally got those flxs outta there. Our Novas are in good shape tho. The NABIS at Washington TWP are already taking a beating on the 400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted March 22, 2011 Share #22 Posted March 22, 2011 What about Academy and other private companies? Are they getting NABIs too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJokaPlaya Posted March 23, 2011 Share #23 Posted March 23, 2011 New Jersey Transit is not worried about what busfans think or want. Having many bus types presents a problem. After all the nabis get here most garages will be all nabi and mcis with the exception of the newark routes(13) which run those neoplans and fairview. Howell will be the only 100% mci garage....a nabi will never see the light of day on a howell route. The mta has a ton of bus types because dont know what the hell they want. The only MCI garages in NJT is Wayne (75, 122 (with Meadowlands), 151, 161, 190's (190 with Meadowlands), 324), Oradell (144, 155, 157, 162, 163, 164 (with Market Street), 165, 166 (with Meadowlands), 167 (with Meadowlands), 168, 177 (with Meadowlands), & 186), and Howell (63, 64, 67, 68, 128 (with Meadowlands), 130's (139 with Academy), 307, & 308 (with Meadowlands & Ironbound)). Big Tree/Fairview/Hilton are Neoplan garages. What about Academy and other private companies? Are they getting NABIs too? There's too many rumors about Academy and Coach getting NABI's I doubt Academy need any anytime soon since their buses are very well maintained and very clean. Maybe in 2 or 3 years but not now. Coach USA, OH THEY NEED THEM! The last time I was on a Community Coach bus in Paterson, that dude had the bus stuffed at 97 degrees on a hot day with no operating AC. Another bus, I can hear the muffler sounding really bad. They can use them IMMEDIATELY. But who knows when they'll get here........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted March 23, 2011 Share #24 Posted March 23, 2011 I completely forget about Wayne & Oradell! There's too many rumors about Academy and Coach getting NABI's I doubt Academy need any anytime soon since their buses are very well maintained and very clean. I don't think Academy needs nabis but thats just me, they may get the last batch. They do run there buses a ton and 8850-8855 run like total crap, now they were clean and i'll give them that l0l. Don't get me wrong they sound good, but there crap, the driving is worse then the 7802-05 series. If anything cusa needs those nabis asap. Those buses they call buses are total crap. Listen to this thing. 8850 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyctRman1278 Posted March 23, 2011 Share #25 Posted March 23, 2011 Red and Tan coach usa has Nabi's 5631-38 And academy has a couple of Ex-Market street RTS's now 1279-1283 i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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