JubaionBx12+SBS Posted August 23, 2011 Share #1 Posted August 23, 2011 As promised I did some number crunching with the Manhattan routes based on ridership. It turns out the Bronx gathers more local bus riders than Manhattan which is not surprising. The M15, Manhattan's most used route, happens to carry a higher percentage of it's boroughs riders than the Bronx with the Bx12. The M15 gathers 51,461 riders on an average weekday. The math shows us this. 51,461/514,653= .09999 which is really close to 10 percent, 9.99% to be exact. So in essence 10% of Manhattan bus riders use the M15. What do you think about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted August 23, 2011 Share #2 Posted August 23, 2011 No surprise there. The East Side greatly lacks sufficient subway coverage. All other bus routes excluding crosstowns have subway service within a short walking distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted August 23, 2011 Share #3 Posted August 23, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted August 24, 2011 Share #4 Posted August 24, 2011 No surprise there. The East Side greatly lacks sufficient subway coverage. All other bus routes excluding crosstowns have subway service within a short walking distance. couldn't have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!!! Many ppl in manhattan just plain don't use the bus period!!!! Some tell me it's pointless and useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted August 24, 2011 Share #5 Posted August 24, 2011 couldn't have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!!! Many ppl in manhattan just plain don't use the bus period!!!! Some tell me it's pointless and useless. Were all those fifteen exclamation marks necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted August 24, 2011 Share #6 Posted August 24, 2011 I can believe that; sounds about right..... So much for Manhattanites not using buses..... What I'd like to know is, the percentage of manhattan's bus riders that use(d) crosstown routes, compared to north-south routes...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted August 24, 2011 Share #7 Posted August 24, 2011 Contrary to what some may say the buses in Manhattan do pick up.. the Lex Ave buses (M101/102/103) can be anywhere from half-empty to SRO in Midtown..I don't think anyone would ride it for a long distance though (I ride it sometimes for 1 stop cause im too lazy to walk from 68th to 63rd lol..unlimited metrocard ftw) Not surprised about the M15; the M15 is pretty much our temporary 2nd Ave Subway for now until the real thing gets built Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted August 24, 2011 Share #8 Posted August 24, 2011 As promised I did some number crunching with the Manhattan routes based on ridership. It turns out the Bronx gathers more local bus riders than Manhattan which is not surprising. The M15, Manhattan's most used route, happens to carry a higher percentage of it's boroughs riders than the Bronx with the Bx12. The M15 gathers 51,461 riders on an average weekday. The math shows us this. 51,461/514,653= .09999 which is really close to 10 percent, 9.99% to be exact. So in essence 10% of Manhattan bus riders use the M15. What do you think about this? This data is further proof,that even a min SAS is needed like since 1999. Even if a SAS for now the planned extension was bulit to run just to 96th St/2nd opens and no further expansion occurs, it will take some load off both the Lex and the (M15) Local and SBS. And if a Upper East Side resident like our friend Gongor if he still in NYC in 2016-'17 a happy camper lol.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted August 24, 2011 Share #9 Posted August 24, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoSpectacular Posted August 24, 2011 Share #10 Posted August 24, 2011 *raises hand* I definitely take those buses for a while, I catch the M103 from Chinatown to 14th or I take the 101 from 96th to 6th. Not that bad a ride and if I have the time I think the hf D60s are much comfier than the lf LFSAs. I'd bet a lot of people use that bus to commute. High floors do offer a larger capacity since the entire floor is level... I wouldn't be surprised, the LFSs that were recently deployed got some backlash and was even the subject of an opinion article in the NY Post one day with mainly negative opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted August 24, 2011 Share #11 Posted August 24, 2011 I'm assuming that the crosstown routes get more ridership than the north-south routes (with some exceptions like the M15 bus) Interesting find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted August 25, 2011 Share #12 Posted August 25, 2011 Here's a list of the ridership based on bus routes. They're grouped by which streets they run north/south on, or crosstown. Some routes are left out because they don't necessarily run north-south or crosstown, or serve a different purpose. --- 1st Avenue / 2nd Avenue M15 - 51,461 3rd Avenue / Lexington Avenue: 63,538 M101 - 32,266 M102 - 16,951 M103 - 14,321 Madison Avenue / 5th Avenue: 66,096 M4 - 21,380 M3 - 16,412 M2 - 13,512 M1 - 14,792 Central Park West M10 - 9,442 Columbus Avenue / Amsterdam Avenue: 30,581 M7 - 17,456 M11 - 13,125 Broadway M104 - 17,437 Riverside Drive M5 - 13,961 7th Avenue / 8th Avenue M20 - 4,108 Crosstown M14 - 37,405 M86 - 26,028 M79 - 18,211 M23 - 16,238 M96 - 15,578 M66 - 13,951 M42 - 12,795 M31 - 12,365 M34 - 9,480 M116 - 9,046 M16 - 8,612 M57 - 8,171 M72 - 6,803 M22 - 4,150 M50 - 3,905 M8 - 2,614 M106 - 1,922 M21 - 1,512 Total North-South Bus Ridership: 252,516 Total Crosstown Bus Ridership: 208,786 --- But you must take into account that most of these north-south bus routes also go crosstown in a portion of their route, such as the M101 on 125th Street, which do account for a portion of the ridership. So I would say that riders using the bus to go north-south is about the same as crosstown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted August 25, 2011 Share #13 Posted August 25, 2011 I'm assuming that the crosstown routes get more ridership than the north-south routes (with some exceptions like the M15 bus) Interesting find. It was to be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheTransitMan Posted September 2, 2011 Share #14 Posted September 2, 2011 The m15 being at the top of the ridership charts does not shock me. When I leave for school in the morning I usually have to wait for the 2nd or 3rd select bus. The numbers that I am shocked about are M66. I expected more out of that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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