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M7/M11, regular route until until Broadway/Amsterdam, then broadway to 98 street, right on 98, left on Amsterdam, and regular

BxM2: Regular Route until CC, then up CPW to 79 street Transverse Road, then regular

M79, Regular Route Until Broadway, then right on 80, and left on CPW, then on 79 street Tranverse, and regular route. Soutbound service unaffected.

 

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Because of Work on Hoffman Drive and 59th Avenue, as well as all Queens Blvd Cross streets untiil 62 Dr from Queens Blvd to Yellowstone Blvd, please reroute services.

Routes Affected

Q11/Q21,Q29, Q38, Q53,

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M7/M11, regular route until until Broadway/Amsterdam, then broadway to 98 street, right on 98, left on Amsterdam, and regular

BxM2: Regular Route until CC, then up CPW to 79 street Transverse Road, then regular

M79, Regular Route Until Broadway, then right on 80, and left on CPW, then on 79 street Tranverse, and regular route. Soutbound service unaffected.

 

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Because of Work on Hoffman Drive and 59th Avenue, as well as all Queens Blvd Cross streets untiil 62 Dr from Queens Blvd to Yellowstone Blvd, please reroute services.

Routes Affected

Q11/Q21,Q29, Q38, Q53,

 

Q23, there is no acess to Columbus Circle and 79th St Transverse Rd is closed.

 

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M5 southbound: Via Broadway, keep right onto Columbus Av, left onto 57 St, right onto 5 Av and regular route

M5 northbound: Via 6 Av, left onto 57 St, right onto Amsterdam Av, left onto 72 St and regular route

 

M7 southbound: Via Columbus Av, continue straight, left onto 57 St, right onto 7 Av and regular route

M7 northbound: Via 6 Av, left onto 57 St, right onto Amsterdam Av and regular route

 

M10 southbound: Via Broadway, left onto 61 St, left onto Central Park West and take stand

 

M20 northbound: Via 8 Av, left onto 57 St, right onto Amsterdam Av, right onto 65 St, right onto Columbus Av and take stand

M20 southbound: Via Columbus Av, left onto 57 St, right onto 7 Av and regular route

 

M79 westbound: Via 79 St, right onto Madison Av, left onto 85 St, through Central Park, left onto Central Park West, right onto 81 St and regular route

M79 eastbound: Via 81 St, left onto Central Park West, right onto 86 St, through Central Park, right onto 5 Av, left onto 79 St and regular route

 

M104 southbound: Via Broadway, keep right onto Columbus Av, left onto 57 St, right onto 7 Av and regular route

M104 northbound: Via 8 Av, left onto 57 St, right onto Amsterdam Av, left onto 73 St and regular route

 

BxM2 southbound: Via 5 Av, right onto 85 St, through Central Park, left onto Central Park West, right onto 81 St and regular route. The 5 Av/81 St stop will be made at 5 Av/86 St

BxM2 northbound: Via 81 St, left onto Central Park West, right onto 86 St, through Central Park, left onto Madison Av and regular route

 

BxM1, X2, X5, M101, M102, M103 southbound: Via Lexington Av, left onto 50 St, right onto 2 Av, right onto 42 St, left onto Lexington Av and regular route

 

X22, X22A, X31 southbound: Via Lexington Av, right onto 49 St, left onto 5 Av, right onto 42 St and regular route

 

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Due to a street fair, Amsterdam Av is closed between 79 St and 96 St. Only Amsterdam Av is affected; cross streets are fine.

 

Buses affected: M7, M11, M79, BxM2

 

 

How about Bx12 SBS?

 

I'm responding to Gorgor's scenario

 

Oh. I did not see Gorgor's response and I finally saw it.

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M7/M11, regular route until until Broadway/Amsterdam, then broadway to 98 street, right on 98, left on Amsterdam, and regular

BxM2: Regular Route until CC, then up CPW to 79 street Transverse Road, then regular

M79, Regular Route Until Broadway, then right on 80, and left on CPW, then on 79 street Tranverse, and regular route. Soutbound service unaffected.

 

 

80th Street does not exist between Central Park West and Columbus Avenue

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M7/M11, regular route until until Broadway/Amsterdam, then broadway to 98 street, right on 98, left on Amsterdam, and regular

BxM2: Regular Route until CC, then up CPW to 79 street Transverse Road, then regular

M79, Regular Route Until Broadway, then right on 80, and left on Amsterdam, right on 81, then on 79 street Tranverse, and regular route. Soutbound service unaffected.

 

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Because of Work on Hoffman Drive and 59th Avenue, as well as all Queens Blvd Cross streets untiil 62 Dr from Queens Blvd to Yellowstone Blvd, please reroute services.

Routes Affected

Q11/Q21,Q29, Q38, Q53,

 

 

80th Street does not exist between Central Park West and Columbus Avenue

 

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Because of Work on Hoffman Drive and 59th Avenue, as well as all Queens Blvd Cross streets untiil 62 Dr from Queens Blvd to Yellowstone Blvd, please reroute services.

Routes Affected:

Q11/Q21,Q29, Q38, Q53,

 

 

Q11, Q21, Q53 northbound: via Woodhaven Bl, right on Eliot Avenue, left on Queens Bl, Q11, Q21 terminate at 57 Avenue/Queens Boulevard. Q11, Q21 layups, Q53: regular route to Woodside.

 

Q11, Q21, Q53 southbound: via Queens Bl, right on 62 Avenue, right on Wetherole Street, left on Woodhaven Boulevard, regular route.

 

Q29 northbound: Right on Booth Street, Left on Eliot Avenue, Left on Queens Boulevard, regular route.

 

Q29 southbound: Right on 62 Avenue, Right on Wetherole Street, left on Woodhaven Boulevard, regular route.

 

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Fine rerouted up to 98 and on CPW to 79 street Transverse

 

 

Cross streets are unaffected. It can just use 86th to get across.

 

Anyways, next:

Another street fair, this time on Central Park West between 59th and 72nd. 65th and 66th street transverses are unaffected, and Columbus Circle is unaffected.

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Cross streets are unaffected. It can just use 86th to get across.

 

Anyways, next:

Another street fair, this time on Central Park West between 61st and 72nd. 65th and 66th street transverses are unaffected, and Columbus Circle is unaffected.

 

 

You should change to 61st St since if 59th-60th Sts affects Broadway since it has to close northern half of Columbus Circle.

 

M10 Southbound: Turn right at 72nd St, turn left at Columbus Av, bear left onto Broadway, regular route.

M10 Northbound: Via Columbus Circle, bear right onto Broadway, turn right onto Amsterdam Av, turn right at 72nd St, turn left at Central Park West, regular route.

M20 Northbound: Via Columbus Circle, bear right onto Broadway, turn left at 66th St, turn left at West End Av, turn left at 65th St, turn right at Broadway, take stand at regular M20 stop.

 

M72 Eastbound: Turn left at Columbus Av, turn left at 65th St, onto Central Park Transverse Rd, onto 65th St, regular route.

M72 Westbound: Via Central Park Transverse Rd, proceed onto 66th St, turn right at Amsterdam Av, turn right at 79th St, turn right at Columbus Av, turn right at 72nd St, regular route.

 

 

Bonus:

CitySight NY/NY Grayline Uptown Loop: Via Columbus Circle, bear right onto Broadway, regular route.

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Due to No More Fukushima Peace Walk/Run for Japan, following streets are closed.

Detour #1 from 9:30 to 11:20

Broadway from Liberty St to Astor Place-8th St.

Astor Place-8th St from Broadway to 2nd Av.

2nd Av from Houston St to 39th St

39th St from 2nd to 1st Avs.

Affects M5, M8, M15 Local/SBS, M34A SBS, and all express buses that uses Broadway, 2nd Av in premise.

Unaffected: M14, M23, M34.

 

Detour #2: From 1:00pm to 1:30pm.

Then from 39th to 47th Sts.

2nd Av from 39th to 47th Sts.

47th St from 2nd to 1st Avs.

Affects M15 Local/SBS, M50.

Unaffected: M34/A SBS, M42.

 

Detour #3: From 1:45pm to 3:00pm.

47th St from 1st-2nd Avs.

2nd Av from 47th-49th Sts.

49th St from 2nd to 8th Avs.

8th Av from 49th St to Columbus Circle.

East side of Columbus Circle to Northbound Broadway

Northbound Broadway and Amsterdam Av intersection at 69th St from Columbus Circle to 72nd St.

Northbound Broadway from 73rd to 175th Sts.

All avenue crossing 49th St are unaffected.

Affects BxM2NB, M5NB, M7NB, M10NB, M11NB, M15 Local/SBS, M20NB, M50WB, M57, M104NB.

Unaffected: BxM/BM/X Express Buses, M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M101, M102, M103.

 

Detour 4: From 3:30pm to 5:15pm.

Northbound Broadway from 73rd to 175th Sts.

Cross Streets and St. Nicholas Av are not affected.

Affects Bx6,Bx7, Bx19, M4, M5, M60, M86, M96, M100, M104, M106.

Unaffected: Bx3, Bx11, Bx13, Bx35, Bx36, M3, M7, M57, M72, M79, M116.

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Due to No More Fukushima Peace Walk/Run for Japan, following streets are closed.

Detour #1 from 9:30 to 11:20

Broadway from Liberty St to Astor Place-8th St.

Astor Place-8th St from Broadway to 2nd Av.

2nd Av from Houston St to 39th St

39th St from 2nd to 1st Avs.

Affects M5, M8, M15 Local/SBS, M34A SBS, and all express buses that uses Broadway, 2nd Av in premise.

Unaffected: M14, M23, M34 SBS.

BM1~BM3

Downtown/Midtown-bound: Via Church St, turn right at Vesey St, turn left at Park Row, regular route.

Brooklyn-bound from Downtown: Take stand at Church St/Vesey St, turn right at Vesey St, turn left at Park Row, regular route.

Brooklyn-bound via Downtown: Unafffected

BxM18:

Manhattan-bound: Via Broadway, turn right at 9th St, onto Christopher St, turn left at 7th Av South, onto Varick St, onto West Broadway, turn right at Murray St, turn left at West St, turn left at Battery Place, turn right at State St, regular route.

 

M5 Southbound:

Via 5th Av, turn right at 9th St, onto Christopher St, turn left at 7th Av South, onto Varick St, onto West Broadway, turn right at Murray St, turn left at West St, turn left at Battery Place, turn right at State St, regular route.

M8:

Eastbound: Turn left at Lafayette St, onto 4th Av, turn right at 14th St, turn right at Avenue A, turn left at 10th St, regular route.

M15 Local/SBS:

Southbound:

Via 2nd Av, turn right at 39th St, turn left at Lexington Av, turn left at 24th St, turn right at 3rd Av, turn left at Houston St, regular route.

M34A SBS

Eastbound:

Via 34th St, turn right at FDR Drive South Service Rd, turn right at 25th St, turn left at Ash Levy Place, turn left at 23rd St, regular route.

X1/X10C/X12:

Staten Island-bound:

Via Broadway, turn right at 9th St, onto Christopher St, turn left at 7th Av South, onto Varick St, onto West Broadway, turn left at Worth St, turn right at Lafayette St, onto Cetre St, onto Park Row, make U-turn at Park Row, turn right at Frankfort St, turn right at St. James Pl, onto Pearl St, onto Water St, turn right at State St, turn left at Battery Pl, regular route.

 

X3/X4:

Staten Island-bound:

Via Warren St, turn left at Church St, turn right at Worth St, turn right at Lafayette St, onto Cetre St, onto Park Row, make U-turn at Park Row, turn right at Frankfort St, turn right at St. James Pl, onto Pearl St, onto Water St, turn right at State St, turn left at Battery Pl, regular route.

X7/X9/X10B:

 

Staten Island-bound:

Via Broadway, turn right at 9th St, onto Christopher St, turn left at 7th Av South, onto Varick St, turn right at Houston St, regular route.

X8/X15

Manhattan/Staten Island-bound:

Via: Via Church St, turn right at Vesey St, turn left at Park Row

X11/X17A/X19:

Staten Island-bound:

Via Worth St: Take stand on Worth St/Broadway, turn right at Lafayette St, onto Cetre St, onto Park Row, make U-turn at Park Row, turn right at Frankfort St, turn right at St. James Pl, onto Pearl St, onto Water St, turn right at State St, turn left at Battery Pl,

 

X27/X28:

Brooklyn-bound:

 

Via Broadway, turn right at 9th St, onto Christopher St, turn left at 7th Av South, onto Varick St, onto West Broadway, turn left at Worth St, turn right at Lafayette St, onto Cetre St, onto Park Row, make U-turn at Park Row, turn right at Frankfort St, turn right at St. James Pl, onto Pearl St, onto Water St, turn right at State St, turn left at Battery Pl, regular route.

 

 

Detour #2: From 1:00pm to 1:30pm.

Then from 39th to 47th Sts.

2nd Av from 39th to 47th Sts.

47th St from 2nd to 1st Avs.

Affects M15 Local/SBS, M50.

Unaffected: M34/A SBS, M42.

M15 Local/SBS:

Via 2nd Av, turn right at 49th St, turn left at Lexington Av, turn left at 34th St, turn right at 2nd Av, regular route.

M50 Eastbound: Terminate at 50th St/2nd Av.

M50 Westbound: Begin first stop at 49th St/1st Av.

 

 

Detour #3: From 1:45pm to 3:00pm.

47th St from 1st-2nd Avs.

2nd Av from 47th-49th Sts.

49th St from 2nd to 8th Avs.

8th Av from 49th St to Columbus Circle.

East side of Columbus Circle to Northbound Broadway

Northbound Broadway and Amsterdam Av intersection at 69th St from Columbus Circle to 72nd St.

Northbound Broadway from 73rd to 175th Sts.

All avenue crossing 49th St are unaffected.

Affects BxM2NB, M5NB, M7NB, M10NB, M15 Local/SBS, M20NB, M50WB, M57, M104NB.

Unaffected: BxM/BM/X Express Buses, M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M101, M102, M103.

BxM2:

Bronx-bound: Via 6th Av, Turn left at 57th St, turn right at 10th Av, onto Amsterdam Av, regular route.

Northbound: Via 6th Av, Turn left at 57th St, turn right at 10th Av, onto Amsterdam Av, regular route.

M15 Local/SBS

Southbound: Turn right at 53rd St, turn left at Lexington Av, turn left at 42nd St, turn right at 2nd Av, regular route.

M10 Northbound: Take stand at 57th St/8th Av, turn right at 10th Av, onto Amsterdam Av, turn right at 65th St, turn left at Central Park West, regular route.

 

M20:

Northbound: Via 8th Av, turn left at 57th St, turn right at 10th Av, onto Amsterdam Av, turn right at 65th St, turn right at Broadway, regular route.

 

M104:

 

Northbound: Via 8th Av, turn left at 57th St, turn right at 10th Av, onto Amsterdam Av, regular route.

 

 

Detour 4: From 3:30pm to 5:15pm.

Northbound Broadway from 73rd to 175th Sts.

Cross Streets and St. Nicholas Av are not affected.

Affects Bx6, Bx7, M4, M5, M60, M86, M96, M100, M104, M106.

Unaffected: Bx3, Bx11, Bx13, Bx19, Bx35, Bx36, M3, M7, M57, M72, M79, M116.

 

Bx6:

Manhattan-bound: Via 155th St, turn right at Amsterdam Av,turn left at 161st St, turn left at Broadway, turn right at 157th St, regular route.

Bx7:Bronx-bound: Via St. Nicholas Av, remains on St. Nicholas Av, turn left at 175th St, turn right at Broadway, regular route.

M4:

Northbound: Via 110th St, turn right at Amsterdam Av, turn left at 165th St, regular route.

M5:Northbound: Via 135th St, turn left at Amsterdam Av, turn left at 165th St, turn right at Ft. Washington Av, turn right at 178th St, take stand at Broadway.

M11: Short trip to 135th St will not use 133rd St, Old Broadway or 131st St.

M60:

Queens-bound: Via 106th St, turn left at Amsterdam Av, regular route.

M86:

Westbound: Terminate at 86th St/West End Av

Layover/Eastbound: Turn left at West End Av, turn right at 79th St, turn right at Riverside Drive, turn right at 86th St, regular route.

M96/M106:

Westbound: Terminate at 96th St/West End Av

Layover/Eastbound: Turn right at West End Av, turn left at 97th St, turn left at Riverside Drive, turn left at 95th St, turn left at West End Av, turn right at 96th St.

M104:

Northbound:Via Amsterdam Av to 129th St, regular route.

M116:

Westbound: Terminate at Broadway.

Layover/Eastbound: Turn left at West End Av, turn left at 100th St, turn left at Broadway, turn right at 106th St, regular route.

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This thread isn't just for routing is it?

 

Here's one about fleet.

 

If (MTA) had gotten the 50 Flxibles, they would still be running, and would have been forwarded to LGA and BP instead of the Bee-Lines. (Which may well have not been bought). Being oddballs in the fleet, they probably would have been sent over there years ago, already; like maybe right after the takeover (in contrast to real life, when other buses from the same year have yet to be sent to MTAB).

 

Would figure so much, being Triboro and JBL were the last holdouts of the Grummans. So those last 50 Metros would have been right at home!

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This thread isn't just for routing is it?

 

Here's one about fleet.

 

If (MTA) had gotten the 50 Flxibles, they would still be running, and would have been forwarded to LGA and BP instead of the Bee-Lines. (Which may well have not been bought). Being oddballs in the fleet, they probably would have been sent over there years ago, already; like maybe right after the takeover (in contrast to real life, when other buses from the same year have yet to be sent to MTAB).

 

Would figure so much, being Triboro and JBL were the last holdouts of the Grummans. So those last 50 Metros would have been right at home!

 

 

It is just for routing, see first page.

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Due to the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel and Manhattan Bridge collapsed, buses need to be rerouted. Buses cannot go on the Brooklyn Bridge

Please rerouted

 

 

Staten Island express buses travel via New Jersey and the Holland Tunnel. Brooklyn express buses are suspended.

 

Next:

Due to a film shoot, 14th Street between 6th and 7th Avenues is closed off. Reroute the M7, M14A, M14D

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Staten Island express buses travel via New Jersey and the Holland Tunnel. Brooklyn express buses are suspended.

 

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Due to a film shoot, 14th Street between 6th and 7th Avenues is closed off. Reroute the M7, M14A, M14D

 

 

I have to disagree w/ the decision to suspend express buses; with some route modifications they can use the Manhattan Bridge and Flatbush Avenue...

 

M7: Extended to terminate at Washington Pl.

M14 Westbound: Right onto 6th Avenue, left onto 15th Street, left onto 7th, right onto 14th.

M14 Eastbound: Right onto 7th Avenue, left onto 12th Street, left onto 6th, right onto 14th.

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I have to disagree w/ the decision to suspend express buses; with some route modifications they can use the Manhattan Bridge and Flatbush Avenue...

 

M7: Extended to terminate at Washington Pl.

M14 Westbound: Right onto 6th Avenue, left onto 15th Street, left onto 7th, right onto 14th.

M14 Eastbound: Right onto 7th Avenue, left onto 12th Street, left onto 6th, right onto 14th.

 

 

He said that the Manhattan Bridge collapsed. It's not worth sending them all the way to the Williamsburg Bridge, which will probably have an hour or so delay as well as all other crossings because two vital ones aren't open.

 

Next:

Due to a bomb scare in the World Financial Center, everything west of, and including, the West Side Highway between Chambers Street and the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel. All Manhattan bound traffic must go out through Trinity Place, but Brooklyn bound traffic may still come through from the FDR Drive/Battery Place.

 

Buses affected: M20, M22, X3, X4, X7, X9, X10B, northbound: X2, X5, X14, X31, X37, X38, X42

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He said that the Manhattan Bridge collapsed. It's not worth sending them all the way to the Williamsburg Bridge, which will probably have an hour or so delay as well as all other crossings because two vital ones aren't open.

 

Next:

Due to a bomb scare in the World Financial Center, everything west of, and including, the West Side Highway between Chambers Street and the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel. All Manhattan bound traffic must go out through Trinity Place, but Brooklyn bound traffic may still come through from the FDR Drive/Battery Place.

 

Buses affected: M20, M22, X3, X4, X7, X9, X10B, northbound: X2, X5, X14, X31, X37, X38, X42

 

Actually the Brooklyn Bridge would still be in use but buses can't go there

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In an emergency, the Brooklyn Bridge can be used for this, not for constant service.

 

 

Weight restrictions can be broken, and are broken all the time when the downtown QM buses illegally use the FDR Drive overpass by 23rd Street. Technically it's an 8000 pound limit and they should use Avenue C and enter at 20th Street. Back before the X90 had MCI's there would be times (very rare) that the driver would save us tons of time by continuing up the FDR and taking the 42nd Street exit rather than the 20th Street exit like we should've.

 

But height restrictions cannot be broken, for obvious reasons. The height limit on the Brooklyn Bridge is 11 feet, and I forget exactly, but I believe that an MCI is a little over 11 feet.

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