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NJT ALP-44M 4425 Derailed at Hoboken Terminal

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Had some free time so I took a ride out to Hoboken Terminal to see what was going on there and found (NJT) ALP-44M 4425 derailed on an un-powered siding track that appears to connect to track 19 or 20. It looks like a brand new turnout to me. In the photo you can see the back of the locomotive tilting on towards the right side.

 

I got close enough to see the rear trucks first set of wheels completely off the rails and then was told by a NJ Transit supervisor that I couldn't be there. He was cool about it. No attitude or anything. So I did what I was told and asked if I can watch from a certain point and he responded yes. He are the photos. (NJT) 502 came to rescue with pushes to help bring the first set of wheels back onto the rails. It really nice to see all this in action.

 

Those NJ Transit guys did one hell of a job getting that locomotive back on the track. They used some kind of wedge to ride the front driving wheels back up on the track using (NJT) 502.

 

A little far but you can still make out what's going on.

 

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This is when NJT 502 takes over and pushes the ALP-44Ms front driving wheels back on the rails. Old 502 comes to the rescue.

 

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Back on track, (NJT) 502 pulls 4425 back away from the scene of the derailment and then relays onto another track.

 

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Holy crap! Wonder how it happened.

How did 502 sound?

 

Nice catch man! Sucky for (NJT) but thats crazy!!!!

 

 

Edit: that 44 looks like it has fresh paint & a new reflective strip I wonder if it just came from the MMC...

 

- Andy

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Holy crap! Wonder how it happened.

How did 502 sound?

 

The only thing I can think of is that it derailed being pushed/pulled by 502. This was the first time I ever heard 502 running and it sounds like a beast. Especially when it was pushing 4425 back onto the tracks.

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The only thing I can think of is that it derailed being pushed/pulled by 502. This was the first time I ever heard 502 running and it sounds like a beast. Especially when it was pushing 4425 back onto the tracks.

 

That is so awesome that you caught that action. I guess one of the track joints gave or something! Electric loco's, especially the alp-46 are no joke when they are "unplugged". Very heavy!! Did you hear the turbo on 502? I think they replaced it in 2006.

 

- Andy

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Try pulling an unpowered GG1 :)

 

I'm just glad it was a short lil toaster & not an alp-46 or even an E60! Imagine trying to move an E60 back onto the rails woah what a nightmare!

 

- Andy

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Hello Everyone,

 

From the photos ALP-44M #4425 was on the tracks leading to the Wheel machine which is located just south of the light rail terminal within the yard. Great Photos. At least SW1500 502 was put to good use.;)

 

 

Eric

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I'm just glad it was a short lil toaster & not an alp-46 or even an E60! Imagine trying to move an E60 back onto the rails woah what a nightmare!

 

- Andy

 

The nightmare is an unpowered GG1, its 500,000 Pounds or so dont mess with it.

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The nightmare is an unpowered GG1, its 500,000 Pounds or so dont mess with it.

 

True. But the newer stuff is c-c or b-b, GG1 had wheels all along the bottom, wouldn't be as much at risk. ;)

 

- (A)

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I noticed it on your other post. So whats the deal with 4425? It seems to be out of order or disabled for some reason even before the derailment.

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what about a derailed GG1? B)

Must've just been put there that day or I didn't bother looking because I was paying mind to the PA-5s sitting out in the yard. B)

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what about a derailed GG1? B)

 

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Derail at low speed is far more likely on a c-c layout than any other.

 

- A

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Hello Everyone,

 

I think that when locomotives are moved to the Wheel machine at Hoboken Terminal they are moved slowly onto the siding. I know personally that NJ Transit has been rebuilding the tracks and installed a new track to the wheel machine. From looking at the photos Harry took the locomotives both 502 and 4425 were on the new section of track that was just installed there. Before there was no way for the train to get to the wheel machine from track 18.

 

 

Eric

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Hello Everyone,

 

I think that when locomotives are moved to the Wheel machine at Hoboken Terminal they are moved slowly onto the siding. I know personally that NJ Transit has been rebuilding the tracks to the wheel machine.

 

 

Eric

 

So the track slipped out of place?

 

- A

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gg1constr.jpg

 

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ALP44.JPG

 

Derail at low speed is far more likely on a c-c layout than any other.

 

- A

 

How about the GG1 derails, or it takes a sharp curves (like a 30MPH curve) at 100MPH? let's just say it derailed. it would be a horror.

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