Harry Posted August 24, 2008 Share #1 Posted August 24, 2008 Had some free time so I took a ride out to Hoboken Terminal to see what was going on there and found (NJT) ALP-44M 4425 derailed on an un-powered siding track that appears to connect to track 19 or 20. It looks like a brand new turnout to me. In the photo you can see the back of the locomotive tilting on towards the right side. I got close enough to see the rear trucks first set of wheels completely off the rails and then was told by a NJ Transit supervisor that I couldn't be there. He was cool about it. No attitude or anything. So I did what I was told and asked if I can watch from a certain point and he responded yes. He are the photos. (NJT) 502 came to rescue with pushes to help bring the first set of wheels back onto the rails. It really nice to see all this in action. Those NJ Transit guys did one hell of a job getting that locomotive back on the track. They used some kind of wedge to ride the front driving wheels back up on the track using (NJT) 502. A little far but you can still make out what's going on. This is when NJT 502 takes over and pushes the ALP-44Ms front driving wheels back on the rails. Old 502 comes to the rescue. Back on track, (NJT) 502 pulls 4425 back away from the scene of the derailment and then relays onto another track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted August 24, 2008 Share #2 Posted August 24, 2008 Holy crap! Wonder how it happened. How did 502 sound? Nice catch man! Sucky for (NJT) but thats crazy!!!! Edit: that 44 looks like it has fresh paint & a new reflective strip I wonder if it just came from the MMC... - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted August 24, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted August 24, 2008 Holy crap! Wonder how it happened. How did 502 sound? The only thing I can think of is that it derailed being pushed/pulled by 502. This was the first time I ever heard 502 running and it sounds like a beast. Especially when it was pushing 4425 back onto the tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted August 24, 2008 Share #4 Posted August 24, 2008 Wow thats crazy....wonderful pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred G Posted August 24, 2008 Share #5 Posted August 24, 2008 Awesome coverage, Harry, and nice pics to boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted August 25, 2008 Share #6 Posted August 25, 2008 The only thing I can think of is that it derailed being pushed/pulled by 502. This was the first time I ever heard 502 running and it sounds like a beast. Especially when it was pushing 4425 back onto the tracks. That is so awesome that you caught that action. I guess one of the track joints gave or something! Electric loco's, especially the alp-46 are no joke when they are "unplugged". Very heavy!! Did you hear the turbo on 502? I think they replaced it in 2006. - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P32ACDM 714 Posted August 25, 2008 Share #7 Posted August 25, 2008 Try pulling an unpowered GG1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted August 25, 2008 Share #8 Posted August 25, 2008 Try pulling an unpowered GG1 I'm just glad it was a short lil toaster & not an alp-46 or even an E60! Imagine trying to move an E60 back onto the rails woah what a nightmare! - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Local Posted August 25, 2008 Share #9 Posted August 25, 2008 Wow Man, thats crazy! Awesome coverage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted August 25, 2008 Share #10 Posted August 25, 2008 Damn, great coverage Harry! Too bad I was out in LI when out that was probably happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Kreszl Posted August 25, 2008 Share #11 Posted August 25, 2008 Hello Everyone, From the photos ALP-44M #4425 was on the tracks leading to the Wheel machine which is located just south of the light rail terminal within the yard. Great Photos. At least SW1500 502 was put to good use. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted August 25, 2008 Share #12 Posted August 25, 2008 Nice catch!! Definitely in the right place at the right time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P32ACDM 714 Posted August 25, 2008 Share #13 Posted August 25, 2008 I'm just glad it was a short lil toaster & not an alp-46 or even an E60! Imagine trying to move an E60 back onto the rails woah what a nightmare! - Andy The nightmare is an unpowered GG1, its 500,000 Pounds or so dont mess with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted August 25, 2008 Share #14 Posted August 25, 2008 The nightmare is an unpowered GG1, its 500,000 Pounds or so dont mess with it. True. But the newer stuff is c-c or b-b, GG1 had wheels all along the bottom, wouldn't be as much at risk. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Kreszl Posted September 1, 2008 Share #15 Posted September 1, 2008 Hello Everyone, On my way to Hoboken NJ Transit ALP-44M #4425 was parked by itself in the Harrison Yard just north of Newark Penn Station. http://erickreszl.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1300233 http://erickreszl.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1300430 Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share #16 Posted September 1, 2008 I noticed it on your other post. So whats the deal with 4425? It seems to be out of order or disabled for some reason even before the derailment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted September 1, 2008 Share #17 Posted September 1, 2008 That toaster may need new axles. <A> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P32ACDM 714 Posted September 1, 2008 Share #18 Posted September 1, 2008 True. But the newer stuff is c-c or b-b, GG1 had wheels all along the bottom, wouldn't be as much at risk. B) - what about a derailed GG1? B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted September 1, 2008 Share #19 Posted September 1, 2008 what about a derailed GG1? B) Must've just been put there that day or I didn't bother looking because I was paying mind to the PA-5s sitting out in the yard. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted September 1, 2008 Share #20 Posted September 1, 2008 what about a derailed GG1? B) vs Derail at low speed is far more likely on a c-c layout than any other. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Kreszl Posted September 1, 2008 Share #21 Posted September 1, 2008 Hello Everyone, I think that when locomotives are moved to the Wheel machine at Hoboken Terminal they are moved slowly onto the siding. I know personally that NJ Transit has been rebuilding the tracks and installed a new track to the wheel machine. From looking at the photos Harry took the locomotives both 502 and 4425 were on the new section of track that was just installed there. Before there was no way for the train to get to the wheel machine from track 18. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted September 1, 2008 Share #22 Posted September 1, 2008 Hello Everyone, I think that when locomotives are moved to the Wheel machine at Hoboken Terminal they are moved slowly onto the siding. I know personally that NJ Transit has been rebuilding the tracks to the wheel machine. Eric So the track slipped out of place? - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Kreszl Posted September 1, 2008 Share #23 Posted September 1, 2008 So the track slipped out of place? - A I don't know specifically. But here is a photo of the new switch located on track 18 at the terminal. http://erickreszl.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1301077 Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted September 1, 2008 Share #24 Posted September 1, 2008 I don't know specifically. But here is a photo of the new switch located on track 18 at the terminal. http://erickreszl.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1301077 Eric Yeah, that was very recent because I noticed that myself not so long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P32ACDM 714 Posted September 2, 2008 Share #25 Posted September 2, 2008 vs Derail at low speed is far more likely on a c-c layout than any other. - A How about the GG1 derails, or it takes a sharp curves (like a 30MPH curve) at 100MPH? let's just say it derailed. it would be a horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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