DS4Ever Posted January 12, 2017 Share #26 Posted January 12, 2017 Bingo. /\/\/\ South westchester is comparable to northern third Staten Island ...and such a funny case the least populated part of S.I. have 24 hour servics on two branches (the s74 and s78)...the problem is those Westchester executives and don't say nah is because the offices closes at 12mid c'mon the last BL20 leaves W.P. at 1:05am and arrives Bedford Park at 2:15am so whose in the central radio service. ..thats just not right...also during late night hours is when maintenance personnel clean up the buses farebox collection as well as repainting or rebranding as well as fix up any loose switches of the battery box So yeah Beeline step up is time for 24/7 service on those specific routes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted January 13, 2017 Share #27 Posted January 13, 2017 Bingo. /\/\/\ South westchester is comparable to northern third Staten Island ...and such a funny case the least populated part of S.I. have 24 hour servics on two branches (the s74 and s78)...the problem is those Westchester executives and don't say nah is because the offices closes at 12mid c'mon the last BL20 leaves W.P. at 1:05am and arrives Bedford Park at 2:15am so whose in the central radio service. ..thats just not right...also during late night hours is when maintenance personnel clean up the buses farebox collection as well as repainting or rebranding as well as fix up any loose switches of the battery box So yeah Beeline step up is time for 24/7 service on those specific routes Do you know for a fact that the central office closes at midnight? Anyway, all you need are a few buses for overnight service. You can run hourly service on the $20 with 2 buses. Maybe one or two for the #1 (depending on what headways you want to run and whether you want to run it up to the Yonkers City Line or just Getty Square) and a few more for the 7, 42, or whatever other routes would run overnight. In any case, for those few buses needed for overnight service, they can always be taken out of service during middays or weekends or something to do that maintenance work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4Ever Posted January 13, 2017 Share #28 Posted January 13, 2017 The BL 1 can run one bus from 242 subway to Getty Sq since it would take 20-25 min. From pole to pole...the BL 7 bihourly from Yonkers to N.R.(thus one bus) and BL 42 one busfrom Wakefield 241 st subway to Petrillo Plaza The BL 20 would be the only Beeline bus to use two buses since its busy even at later or super early hours as the BL 60 as mentioned would run from Fordham to N. Rochelle which takes 40-45 min so maybe have one bus and an interval of 90 min. Also to top this off the #20 must be 24 hours since it passes throug . Empire Casino and about 75% of the people who go to aforementioned casino are from the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share #29 Posted January 13, 2017 BL 42 goes from the 241st Street subway to New Rochelle. It's a different route to Petrillo Plaza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40MntVrn Posted January 13, 2017 Share #30 Posted January 13, 2017 Here's my take. The only route that could possibly sustain overnight ridership would be the 20 and it would take a ton of careful planning just to make it effective. Example: Take the 25, 26, 42, 45, 55, 60. These routes have direct subway connections. Post 6PM, the time rush hour trains are pulling into their final destinations, their bee-line bus may or may not be their. I cannot count the number of times I've been at E 180th trying to figure out whether I should take the 2 to the 42 or the 5 to the 55. To coordinate rapid transit lines with suburban transit is difficult. The point alone makes overnight service alone untenable. I know I wouldn't wait for train, ride local to the last stop, and then wait X amount of time for a 42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted January 14, 2017 Share #31 Posted January 14, 2017 The BL 1 can run one bus from 242 subway to Getty Sq since it would take 20-25 min. From pole to pole...the BL 7 bihourly from Yonkers to N.R.(thus one bus) and BL 42 one busfrom Wakefield 241 st subway to Petrillo Plaza The BL 20 would be the only Beeline bus to use two buses since its busy even at later or super early hours as the BL 60 as mentioned would run from Fordham to N. Rochelle which takes 40-45 min so maybe have one bus and an interval of 90 min. Also to top this off the #20 must be 24 hours since it passes throug . Empire Casino and about 75% of the people who go to aforementioned casino are from the city During the day, the #7 is significantly busier from Mount Vernon to Yonkers, compared to Mount Vernon to New Rochelle. If anything should cover the Mount Vernon-New Rochelle portion, it should be the #42. Here's my take. The only route that could possibly sustain overnight ridership would be the 20 and it would take a ton of careful planning just to make it effective. Example: Take the 25, 26, 42, 45, 55, 60. These routes have direct subway connections. Post 6PM, the time rush hour trains are pulling into their final destinations, their bee-line bus may or may not be their. I cannot count the number of times I've been at E 180th trying to figure out whether I should take the 2 to the 42 or the 5 to the 55. To coordinate rapid transit lines with suburban transit is difficult. The point alone makes overnight service alone untenable. I know I wouldn't wait for train, ride local to the last stop, and then wait X amount of time for a 42. Not sure how it's any different from somebody living along say Union Turnpike has to try and catch the Q46 after coming off the late at night (or since we're talking suburban systems, an n6 rider coming off the at night and trying to catch a bus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 14, 2017 Share #32 Posted January 14, 2017 If it were up to me, I would actually try my hand at running overnight service b/w 242nd & New Roc' via the BL-1 & BL-7 routes..... While I would run the #1 to Getty Sq. separately, I'm not so sure I'd #7 separately, overnights.... I would not touch overnight service on the #60 (even b/w New Roc' & Fordham) with a 10 foot pole.... I see it as being far too beneficial for Bronx patrons (compared to Westchester patrons)...... The #20 OTOH I would run overnight service on, all the way up to White Plains too.... Take the 25, 26, 42, 45, 55, 60. These routes have direct subway connections..... Alright, but so does the same #20 you say would take a ton of careful planning to make it effective. The only route that doesn't offer a direct subway connection that's even been mentioned so far is the #7..... I'm not sure I get the point in even mentioning that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelinefan Posted January 14, 2017 Share #33 Posted January 14, 2017 The 45 should run until at least 11 pm to allow for Iona college students who commute and have night classes to connect to the metro north and other bee line buses to get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4Ever Posted January 14, 2017 Share #34 Posted January 14, 2017 I for one would considered the to the BL42 since thr linr arrives more quicker and the 42 runs fair more frequently Well the problem for service east of M.V is because of the buffer suburban zone of Pelham. ..this town accounts only 10.000 and that's is if Pelham and Pelham Manor are jointly also this town has many many people with cars and depends on their automobiles and not public transportation. .,is comparable to the s62 east of Port Jeff. So that's the problem. ..now why isn't BL60 a problem when it passes through the SBZ (Suburban Buffer Zone) is quite simple nearly ALL passenger's travel from the Bronx to N.R. and vice versa ...however The 60 does pass through a busy establishment zone of Pelham Manor (the Post Road Plaza) but all passengers here are either Bronxites or New Rochelle giving a possible 1% from the Pelhams As for the 45 i'm a huge fan to makr it run til 11pm but this route passes through Pelham road an areas full of car people and scarces of public transportation. ..however in different from the #7 or #42...the #45 does handle much more passenger count in the Pelham road corridor. ..but like the #60 all passengers boarding at this corridor are either heading to BX or NR...about 8% head north of the NR Transit Ctr from this point (people boarding at the T.C. are the most account of passengers heading north) I guess so that if it benefits Bronxites and not Westchester patrons then the should make the BX30 24/7 i mean is a total must. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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