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Lists of pre-1967 subway routes?

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Are there lists of pre-1967 subway routes before the connection of Manhattan Bridge tracks to the IND 6th Avenue route? I checked http://www.nycsubway.org website but pre-1967 subway maps show route names like Sea Beach, West End, Culver, etc instead of route letters and numbers.

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Here are the major routes of the rapid transit system in 1967 just before the 6th Avenue connection. I'm not sure if this is what you were looking for. :cool:

 

1967_Major_Routes.jpg

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Thats becuz before 1967(or 1950s or way later until IND's R1 came out) i think, there were no Routes "AS" letters or numbers

 

They were considered by Line such as:

 

IRT White Plains Road Line

BMT 4th Avenue Line

IND Eighth Avenue Line

IRT Flushing Line

IRT Pelham Line

 

etc....

 

From Late 60's to about 1978 letters/ and routes were used but, instead of the lines being matched by color

 

such as (1)(2)(3) for 7th Ave/Bway line or (A)(C)(E) for the 8th ave

 

they were just ther own color, until 1978 when the T/A just decided to match colors by there manhattan route i belivie

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:tup: Thanks for that picture Harry! very useful! :cool:

 

And because of this Chrytsie Street connection.. we now have BMT/IND routes (e.g. the (D))

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Great map Harry! You got the (E) going to the Rockaways, that's really awesome!

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Thats becuz before 1967(or 1950s or way later until IND's R1 came out) i think, there were no Routes "AS" letters or numbers

 

They were considered by Line such as:

 

IRT White Plains Road Line

BMT 4th Avenue Line

IND Eighth Avenue Line

IRT Flushing Line

IRT Pelham Line

 

etc....

 

From Late 60's to about 1978 letters/ and routes were used but, instead of the lines being matched by color

 

such as (1)(2)(3) for 7th Ave/Bway line or (A)(C)(E) for the 8th ave

 

they were just ther own color, until 1978 when the T/A just decided to match colors by there manhattan route i belivie

 

The IND used letters since its beginning in 1932.

 

IIRC in the early 60s, the IRT and BMT started using numbers and letters.

 

Before the early 60s, the BMT used numbers:

1- Brighton (:)(Q)

2- 4th Avenue (R)

3- West End (D)

4- Sea Beach (N)

5- Culver- lower part of (F)

6- 5 Avenue

7- Franklin Avenue- Franklin Avenue (S)

8- Astoria (N)(W)

9- Flushing (7)

10- Myrtle- Chambers (M)

11- Myrtle- Jay

12- Lexington

13- Fulton Street- the (A) from 80 Street to Lefferts

14- Broadway Brooklyn

15- Jamaica (J)

16- Canarsie (L)

 

The lines had a different color until either 1978 or 1979.

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The IND used letters since its beginning in 1932.

 

IIRC in the early 60s, the IRT and BMT started using numbers and letters.

 

Before the early 60s, the BMT used numbers:

1- Brighton (:)(Q)

...

7- Franklin Avenue- Franklin Avenue (S)

The lines had a different color until either 1978 or 1979.

 

The BMT 1 was Brighton Express to the Manhattan Bridge (off to where it went to in after it entered Manhattan) and the BMT 7 was Brighton Local, but instead of continuing to Manhattan, it went down Franklin Avenue. The Franklin Avenue Shuttle wasn't always a shuttle.

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Here are the major routes of the rapid transit system in 1959 way before the 6th Avenue connection. I'm not sure if this is what you were looking for. :cool:

 

1959_Major_Routes.jpg

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Here are the major routes of the rapid transit system in 1959 way before the 6th Avenue connection. I'm not sure if this is what you were looking for. :cool:

 

1959_Major_Routes.jpg

 

Gracais Harry. Great info about the NYC subway back in the day around 1960. Some of this info is cool as some of these routings i did not know about myself.

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Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.1; en-us; dream) AppleWebKit/525.10+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Mobile Safari/523.12.2)

 

The only place where alphanumeric characters were official route identifiers. From the beginning was the IND. (A-H). And even those seemed to be originally intended as "signals" for the towers, as that old 1930's map calls them.

 

On my page: http://www.erictb.info/linehistory.html, I treat the lines as by the current routes as we know them. (So the present (Q) actually started in 1920, even though it wouldn't be designated as such for the first 40 years!)

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The IND used letters since its beginning in 1932.

 

IIRC in the early 60s, the IRT and BMT started using numbers and letters.

 

Before the early 60s, the BMT used numbers:

1- Brighton (:)(Q)

2- 4th Avenue (R)

3- West End (D)

4- Sea Beach (N)

5- Culver- lower part of (F)

6- 5 Avenue

7- Franklin Avenue- Franklin Avenue (S)

8- Astoria (N)(W)

9- Flushing (7)

10- Myrtle- Chambers (M)

11- Myrtle- Jay

12- Lexington

13- Fulton Street- the (A) from 80 Street to Lefferts

14- Broadway Brooklyn

15- Jamaica (J)

16- Canarsie (L)

 

The lines had a different color until either 1978 or 1979.

 

Thanks for the great info! I knew the IND had letters back as far as the 40s cause of Billy Strayhorn's fantastic song 'Take The (A) Train' that was done up righteous by Count Basie and his Orchestra. Your info confirms that the IND had letters from the jump.

 

Thanks Eric B for your input and and two big thumbs up to Harry for those two maps!! :tup::tup:

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