R68ACTrain

On 4/6/2021 at 8:38 AM, darkstar8983 said:

I laughed at this quote! Pure genius! 

As for the  they'll probably just get the R160s back. The R211s are really needed on thee "high ridership / frequency routes" - . The only reason the  is getting them is because of the R179 8-car vs. 10-car issues.

This is why I stressed this. Have the R211s go to Jamaica, Pitkin, and 207th. Have the displaced R160s go to Coney Island...

6 hours ago, R32 3838 said:

 

I doubt they'll use 8 car R179's during this GO. It's going up concourse which has very heavy ridership meaning 100% full length trains. It'll likely be a mixure of R46's that the uses now and R68/R68A's from the lines. Maybe they'll slip two or more full length R179's from the (Hardly doubt it because it'll confuse line crews).

But then again, this isn't a weekday, I live infront of Concourse, and on weekends, especially Sundays, the yard is still pretty full, in addition to the  and those 4 's there.

And to what you said about C crews, literally they could use A crews on those R179s. (my take)

They love sending the  everywhere...

22 hours ago, VIP said:

Do not Troll ok. Thanks. 

trolling? Where??

18 hours ago, Brighton Express said:

I'm starting to think that you didn't even open it lol, it's not entirely accurate whatsoever being from 2020

The link is invalid, and I was referring to @Calvin's comment about what lines they are assigned to...

6 hours ago, Deucey said:

How to know you’re having an off day:

I switched from  to  at Nevins Street even though my destination is Franklin Av.

thats like going to Alabama Avenue from Chauncey, and taking a  to Bway Jct, and then a  to the next stop lmao

On 3/22/2021 at 5:30 PM, VIP said:

That’s not accurate. 

But it is....

2 hours ago, Storm said:

Jamaica aren't about to fork over 440 R160's. 

This is only if they exercise. The R211s go to Jamaica, and pitkin first. The remaining ones can go to Coney Island, along with the R160s.

12 hours ago, Calvin said:

The R46s that are on the  and  lines, so far: C.I have been getting them washed top, side and bottom like on a weekly basics. Outside looks almost brand new. 

On the other hand, the Jamaica R160s in observation have a lot of steel dust on some cars, not all though. 

Coney Island is just starting to take care of them, but these R46s should be really displaced by R160s. My take

18 hours ago, Storm said:

Lol I think the person that made this position doesn't know:

1. Kawasaki has already started making the R211's and if they scrap everything, that would be a few month's work down the drain

2. It would take an additional few years to design the new cars, which will push back the R211 and the r262 order back a few years. 

3. The R46's are suffering enough. The ones in coney Island are about to die. My prediction is those things will last until 2025.

4. Which brings me to my next question:

I personally think that the base should go to C.I because those ones are being overworked. I understand that they're meant for 8th Ave, but the C.I lines are gonna be in serious car debt soon.

This is true, but they're better off receiving R160s, why? Cause Sea Beach, 4th Avenue, Crosstown, and Brighton CBTC aren't coming no time soon, but the next line to get CBTC is 8th Avenue, so the newest trains running with the newest CBTC system, kinda goes good for one another.

On 3/14/2021 at 7:08 PM, Calvin said:

I know the R46s are moved to Coney Island for the  and  b.c of the R160s being retrofitted for CBTC on Queens Blvd. The  is affected, just by using the R160s instead of the R46s.

 

My question to this is: How are they performed on the  during the rush hours? 

When the swap came in effect, the  was the first line at Jamaica Yard to not use the R46s again. 

if you think about it, the  was actually the first, because of the R160s coming in, not being swapped in.

Is MTA really asking for kids to pay for a bus ride? I thought kids were free...

4 minutes ago, Storm said:

Right. Coney Island's R46's keep breaking down, and one time one of them even got derailed.

Also, remember when C.I gave 20 160's to Pitkin to help out? why did those R160's go to Jamaica after the  got its 179's back?

One last question: You guys have been talking about the TSS... what is it?

remind me what TSS is again?

1 minute ago, Storm said:

Right. Coney Island's R46's keep breaking down, and one time one of them even got derailed.

Also, remember when C.I gave 20 160's to Pitkin to help out? why did those R160's go to Jamaica after the  got its 179's back?

Exactly, because Jamaica is so greedy. You can equip the trains with CBTC, and send em right back to Coney Island.

3 minutes ago, Storm said:

All we can do is cross our fingers and hope the  exercises. If not, then the  will be seeing a lot more unhappy riders.

Typo, right?

This is why I'm saying in the R211 thread, if MTA does exercise, have the R211s go to Jamaica, Pitkin, and (32 4-cars) for ENY, have the displaced R160s go to Coney Island, so they can get their R160s back. At the end of the day, R211s are going there anyway, so R160 s have a possibility of getting displaced.

Just now, Storm said:

All we can do is cross our fingers and hope the  exercises. If not, then the  will be seeing a lot more unhappy riders.

Typo, right?

Yes, I meant Brighton, Sea Beach, and Astoria

On 3/4/2021 at 7:01 PM, Lex said:

I remember that day. The signals did f*ck all to help.

What happened that day?

14 hours ago, Bay Ridge Express said:

Eh, I'd say the latter is priority #1, but they also rant about the models here and there... Most people I know prefer NTTs, or as they call them, "those new trains with LEDs."

Well Brighton, Astoria, and Brighton riders with hit the hardest by this. Alot of people are not happy about the R46s on the  , and they aren't even railfanners. I think one time, Brighton's residents complained about the R46 on the  in 2001. If I'm not mistaken.

Operators get to choose what train they want? Did not know that.

On 2/23/2021 at 1:32 PM, Vulturious said:

Wait a minute, I swear I saw a video about this issue, but it wasn't an R160 that had that issue, it was an R143. Maybe from a different time, but I do remember it was an R143.

It's really not that hard to tell the difference from an R68 to an R68A. The biggest visual difference comes from the window where the rollsign is located. It is a full glass pane while on the R68, it isn't. 

As you can see, if it wasn't thanks to this filter, you can clearly see the rollsign window isn't a full glass pane window. You can also see how the front route bullet rollsigns look, Concourse actually has their rollsigns positioned lower while Coney Island's are higher position, but there is a bit of an empty space you can see on the bottom which is an R68. The R68A is always positioned higher, but there is no empty space on the bottom which you can tell is an R68A. 

There are other noticeable differences such as how the rollsign on the interior looks like, the R68 has their sticking out, while the R68A doesn't. There's also the storm doors, but I can't remember how they look like. You can also hear from their propulsions, the R68 sounds the most similar to the R46's but honestly much better, the R68A sounds most similar to the older SMEE's like the R32, R40S/M, and R42.

Now as for the NTT's, it's really easy to tell them apart other than from just their propulsions unlike the R68/A's. The R142 and R142A being the most different from each other. The R142 have alstom propulsions of course, but there's also the front face and back face. There is a line on top of the R142 on the front and back face which you can clearly see while on the R142A, there isn't a much more cleaner design compared to the R142 imo. There's also the front windows on the R142 that look to be sticking out unlike the R142A. 

There's not really much differences from the R142A and the R188 since a good chunk of the R142A were converted to R188. There are new R188's that were built, but even then there's still not really much difference, if not at all.

The R143 compared to the R160's in general actually have more than just a flag placement difference. The doors on the B end of the cars are single on the R143 unlike the R160's, but there is also the Overhead which has a white cover found also on the A division NTT's, but black on any newer car models of B division NTT's. 

There are technically 4 different R160's, but to be honest it's more like 3. The R160A-1 and R160A-2 are both built by Alstom and are the same, only difference is that the R160A-1 are the 4 car configuration and the other is the 5 car configuration. Both can be coupled to work together, I have seen videos of a 9 car R160 which was the 4 car and 5 car coupled being tested. Now compared to the R160B, the only other difference you can tell are the door motors. The R160B-1 and R160B-2 have only 1 difference which is their propulsions, the R160B-1 being the Alstom Onix propulsion and the R160B-2 being the Siemens. You mistook the Siemens propulsions having part of its sound coming from the R142A, but they aren't, the propulsions on those trains are Bombardier.

Now as for the R179, there are a lot of differences. First off, the R179 looks more fatter compared to the R160's, the front face doesn't have that black part extending further than the edge on the top unlike the R160's and other NTT's. The propulsions sound similar to the R142A, R143, and R188 since it sounds to be an upgraded version, although it sounds much more annoying compared to the Alstom Propulsion. There are the different door motors which I'm not going to lie, sounds pretty satisfying compared to the the R160A's. The B end of the car's exterior have indents all over except for the edges. The side LED signs looks to be more narrower compared to the R160 and the interior Overhead is more wider with newer LED's. There's not much other differences, but the FIND's LCD screen panel has their texts much larger compared to the R160's FIND.

This is pretty much all the difference that I can point out. So if anyone here still doesn't know how to tell the difference between a few difference trains, here you go. I might've missed a few details, so please add on or call me out on some of the details I said.

That is true but there is one part of the R160B Siemens propulsion, that the R142A has as well.

21 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Aren't the pilots built in Japan first?

Those the Ts.

12 hours ago, Amtrak41 said:

R38 numbers to start with. 

When in the order do the SIR care come ? Will they also be link-barred ? Wonder if they will get 3-digit numbers. 

Their R44's ought to be first thing to go. 

They should. And those things will turn 50 this year. And I think its 2022 or 3... But the SIR should be a priority because they're older than the R46, and are in worse shape, 2023 is far away..

9 hours ago, Lex said:

Yes, let's go with the muffled chime, as opposed to the clear one. What could possibly go wrong?

Well the R142 and R142A chimes aren't as loud as the R160Bs. For some reason the R160As have quieter chimes. And nothing would go wrong, because thats why there is a warning for the closing doors. No matter how the chime sounds.

I swear I hope the R211 has the R143/160/188 chime tone, I don't like the 142/A/179 one besides, every train has atleast a A division twin. Like the R179 with the R142A, and now the R211 wit the R188

Wow them 211As are sexy, my god..