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IIRC, the CBTC setup on Culver is specifically for testing new suppliers interoperability and that's it. Even after CBTC is installed (remember, only the local tracks are getting it), the test track will be manually driven with CBTC testing off hours only. Mitsubishi just qualified in November so I would imagine the MTA has already begun the search for a fourth supplier to test. This is why I do not think we will see 211 CBTC tests there. Educated guess? QBL express tracks during late nights is where R211 CBTC tests will occur. And once Eighth Avenue goes online, the express tracks there as well overnights.

That track is to test new CBTC suppliers. The two places the 211s will test before revenue service are the Rockaway Test Track and the Sea Beach express track. As those are the two test tracks for B Div. And since the schedule is aggressive, we should see trains on both.

Well, depending on who you are. The Federal Reserve types millions into existence every day.

And that's 40 minutes on a good day plus it depends on where you're coming from.

First off, these are not articulated cars. Just open gangways. They still sit on independent trucks. 1) The dimensions should remain the same. Five cars to a set, two sets making a train as usual. 2) These are not articulated cars. 3) Part of me expects the and/or but my gut says we might get blindsided with the and/or for two reasons: A) Queens Boulevard would already be benefitting from CBTC B) The capacity limitations of the Cranberry Tubes means Eighth Avenue-Fulton services would reap the most benefit from open gangway trains.

Isn't this what training is for? I would imagine you'd get a warning first (though I'm sure most T/O's know the road like the back of their hands). If you've ridden along the Northeast Corridor outside sections operated by the MTA, you've already experienced it.

So what there's a pandemic? It's not the Spanish Flu. It's something we know can be kept at bay with proper distance, basic hygiene, mask wearing, and proper ventilation. Not something Kawasaki and it's suppliers shouldn't be able to easily handle. Remember, it only got so far because of ignorance on a macro scale. Based off that, and other current events, one could infer that the delay wouldn't have been more than six to ten months. Which is why I ask why one would think the delay would be years.

......Why?

Anything can happen between now and the end of March. It may not be the end of the world, but the effects are only just now starting to show. 2021 is going to be quite the year, I think.

It felt good to tap in at Stillwell. All I need are Brooklyn buses to come online and I can make a permanent transition.

Not if other stations on the line are being equipped. The Rockaway LINE is not last. Nice try doe

111th on the is active as of this morning.

@Union Tpke, I believe you are the one who shared that document a long while back (The 80s Doomsday subway plans). Is there any way you can be of assistance?

If you think it's just "playing politics", you have no idea how bad it is. People forget, the MTA (much like the nation at large) was already on its way to where it is now. All COVID did was speed up the process. This agency came into existence with no money (the system had been losing money since December 1941 iirc and as of 1966, was well on its way towards bringing the City to ruin) and under false pretenses (to preserve the 20 cent fare even though it's impossible to have high quality service with artificially low fares and terrible subsidy) so it should not be a shocker that it is where it is now. And to those who are aware of the situation, it should not be a shock when I say to start putting together exit strategies. Just in case. Imagine what you think is the worst outcome of this pandemic (financially), then multiply it by 10. That is very real. Whether or not the Feds step up. Because whatever "help" they provide will be a "loan". And not only would it be a "loan", but the money for that "loan" will literally come from nowhere. And while it's good short-term, it's disastrous long-term. I really feel like this community does nowhere near the amount of reading it probably should. To truly understand the MTAs issue, you have to also study how money works in this country. I'm dead serious. If you did, you'd be as worried as I am. Because in truth? There really are no good options.

This isn't the first time such a doomsday plan was released. Remember, in 1981, the situation was so bad that not only was a similar plan released, but actual abandonment and demolition were included. Anything is possible. Especially when you understand how America's monetary system works. Trust me when I say, we may be seeing the end of the line if things stay the way things are. And it's frustrating to me how many people (from all circles and levels) have't noticed yet.

.........Thank you for solving this mystery. Now the ads make sense haha

The B99 is the PERFECT night bus length. If people need to go further, they can transfer.

Do rats not exist in the subways?

The point obviously passed you at Mach 2. So I'm just gonna end this here. Also, I can care less what officials say. What MATTERS is how the overall citizenry goes about it. And with summer approaching, I have no faith this trend is gonna continue to zero cases over 14 days. I also do not think we are going to use this summer to properly prepare. THAT falls on governments and their track record has been abysmal. Because of these two things, I am 70% sure we will be in quarantine again by September-October. Silver lining? I'll get back to you mid-June.

You know, whether you realize it or not, the solution is already there. And I'm not exactly sure how to explain it in proper sentences without being all over the place. I'll get back to this in a couple hours when I figure out how to properly translate my thoughts into English.

Two things: The first is that was my standard response to someone who obviously failed English. Secondly, what does Florida have to do with anything? Don't deflect. It's not cute.

And one we will have no sustantial protection from for at least two years. That will definitely take a toll.

Afterward smartass. I specifically said LONGER TERM EFFECTS. Riders will come back. But it won't be what we saw before February. A 30% reduction is still nearly 2 million riders gone. That's nearly a third. The 32s being gone won't affect social distancing. That's 222 cars out of a fleet of what was around 6700. Well, the current count without them is 6513 iirc. An approx. 3% reduction of the total fleet is of no concern when ridership is projected to be 30% lower once things are restarted. Let's think critically here.

It's amazing to me how many in this thread haven't considered the longer-term psychological and sociological effects of this virus. There WILL be a decrease in transit ridership (some estimate a 30% reduction) for the first few years. And mind you, that's provided we don't eff up and not prepare over the summer for BOTH the flu and SARS-2 in the fall and winter. No matter which, there will be a significant chunk of riders who stick to other means for the foreseeable future. For once, the MTA might be absolutely correct in their assumptions.

Paris taught me people will always find a way. Through all types of faregate designs.