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Robert Bosco

Why was the (9) train discontinued?

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As Far as I know, the (9) was discontinued due to the lack of ridership. Many customers who preferred the bypassed stops had to wait for either a (1) or (9) to reach their destination. Perhaps making the (1) a pure Local to/from City College-137 St and Van Cortlandt Park-242 St, was the best idea. "(1)/One" Train would serve the entire line; all stops, all times.

 

Skip-Stop is like a mild or mini Express service. Each train had(s) designated stations they would stop at and Bypass.

For instance, the February 2004 Subway Map displays (1) & (9) Skip-Stop Service as follows:

 

Rush Hours the (9) and only the (9) would cover these stations:

 

Harlem-145 St

Inwood-207 St

Marble Hill-225 St

 

The (1) would cover all Remaining Stations at all times.

 

The Last Bronx-Bound Skip-Stop (9) Train departed South Ferry at 6:45pm on Friday, May 27, 2005. I rode that train to Marble Hill-225 St.

 

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The Jamaica Line (J) / (Z) Trains has Skip-Stop Service in effect today.

 

The November 2007 Subway Map displays the (J)/(Z) Skip Stop Service as its stated below

 

 

During the Rush Hours, the (Z) and only the (Z) would cover these stations:

 

Gates Avenue

Chauncy Street

Van Sicklen Avenue

Norwood Avenue

75 Street

104 Street

121 Street

 

 

The (J) covers the remaining stations, at all times.

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As Far as I know, the (9) was discontinued due to the lack of ridership. Many customers who preferred the bypassed stops had to wait for either a (1) or (9) to reach their destination. Perhaps making the (1) a pure Local to/from City College-137 St and Van Cortlandt Park-242 St, was the best idea. "(1)/One" Train would serve the entire line; all stops, all times.

 

Skip-Stop is like a mild or mini Express service. Each train had(s) designated stations they would stop at and Bypass.

For instance, the February 2004 Subway Map displays (1) & (9) Skip-Stop Service as follows:

 

Rush Hours the (9) and only the (9) would cover these stations:

 

Harlem-145 St

Inwood-207 St

Marble Hill-225 St

 

The (1) would cover all Remaining Stations at all times.

 

The Last Bronx-Bound Skip-Stop (9) Train departed South Ferry at 6:45pm on Friday, May 27, 2005. I rode that train to Marble Hill-225 St.

 

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The Jamaica Line (J) / (Z) Trains has Skip-Stop Service in effect today.

 

The November 2007 Subway Map displays the (J)/(Z) Skip Stop Service as its stated below

 

 

During the Rush Hours, the (Z) and only the (Z) would cover these stations:

 

Gates Avenue

Chauncy Street

Van Sicklen Avenue

Norwood Avenue

75 Street

104 Street

121 Street

 

 

The (J) covers the remaining stations, at all times.

 

 

Hey any chance the (Z) might have the same fate?

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Im really not a frequent Jamaica Line (J)(Z) rider, so I really can't tell you what the ridership looks like. However, by the looks of it, the (Z) outlived the (9) so far, so, my guess is, is that it's here to stay for a while longer..B):cool:

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The (Z) line is used it gets good ridership.And plus the skip stop is fast.Because when the (J) line is running by itlself is very slow.because its too many stops.

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Skip-stop works this way. A train stops at one stop, skips the next, and stops at the following stop. It skips the one after that, stopping at the next stop. A second train stops at every stop the first train skips andskips every stop the first train stopped at.

 

The (9) was discontinued because of communiy opposition to some extent, because the passenger load isn't evenly distributed along the IRT Broadway Local, and it wasannoying to see a (9) train fly by when you had to wait longer for a (1) (since you'd wait twice as long for a train. For example during rush hour the headways for a J or Z would be 5 minutes, but each train only comes every 10 minutes.).

 

The (Z) won't suffer the same fate anytime soon because passegner loads along the BMT Jamaica Line are evenly distributed and both the (J) and the (Z) are used.

 

Even though the (J) is a 40 to 50 minute long route from end to end, it seems very slow because of the various timers plaguing the serpentine-like route (for atleast part of the route), and of the many stations it makes in Brooklyn in Queens during midday.

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The Market- Frankford Line in Philly has skip-stop service too.

 

I live near 145 Street on the (1) and its a pretty busy station. I did not really like the skip-stop because sometimes the signs would be incorrect and/or it was hard to hear the conductor. In addition, there is a new shopping plaza near 225 Street.

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Maybe, just maybe, if trains were allowed to zoom past stations, then yea, you got a good skip-stop service. Learn something from HBLR with their Bayonne Flyer skip stop service.....

 

But, wasn't it a problem that a (9) train would leave right behind a (1) train at times?

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