2Line1291 Posted June 22, 2010 Share #51 Posted June 22, 2010 Don't get on me for saying this but I guess..... when he said "slightly more edges", he mean't the front ends of the A cars (or even the trainset itself) of R62/A's are curved more than an R142/A R62A: http://www.madre-de-dios.org/gallery2/d/80368-2/47+R62a+1+train+hdr.jpg R142A:http://thebergennetwork.com/na/ny/mtanyct/rail/7341.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted June 22, 2010 Share #52 Posted June 22, 2010 Don't get on me for saying this but I guess..... when he said "slightly more edges", he mean't the front ends of the A cars (or even the trainset itself) of R62/A's are curved more than an R142/A Probably. The 142s are boxier than the 62s. To me at least. Then again, this is AWWang we're talking about... who knows what he's saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 22, 2010 Share #53 Posted June 22, 2010 If anything, Those R142A's from the , R142S would be the 1st ones to go to the , Because they were built with a CBTC kit and they were. About the R62A's going Back to the I doubt because of the politics but you never know, I think we should wait and see. Politics. That word is almost good as a swearword sometimes. If they talk logic, they would know that throwing junior hippos with smaller doors onto the could mean more delays on an already delay-prone line. Bon voyage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted June 22, 2010 Share #54 Posted June 22, 2010 Couldn't they just put the spare R-62As on the ? If they can't put them back on the Lexington lines (, , ) due to door width or whatever, and being that the and already have R-62As and R-62s, respectively, then that would make the the seemingly ideal candidate for recieving the spare R-62As from the . And thus, the R-142/As transferred from the to the could be replaced with R-142s coming from the line (which could in turn recieve the R-62As, as opposed to the getting them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 22, 2010 Share #55 Posted June 22, 2010 Couldn't they just put the spare R-62As on the ? If they can't put them back on the Lexington lines (, , ) due to door width or whatever, and being that the and already have R-62As and R-62s, respectively, then that would make the the seemingly ideal candidate for recieving the spare R-62As from the . And thus, the R-142/As transferred from the to the could be replaced with R-142s coming from the line (which could in turn recieve the R-62As, as opposed to the getting them). No because the and the swap cars at Flatbush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted June 22, 2010 Share #56 Posted June 22, 2010 No because the and the swap cars at Flatbush. True, but it would be better to have many R-62As on the (and consequently, some of those R-62As showing up on the ) than to have the run R-62As, because of all the Lexington lines, the is by far the worst in terms of crowding (I remember taking it to/from middle school; those days were hellish). As for the , although it is crowded, it is the least crowded line on Lexington Avenue, which means it would be more capable of handling several R-62A sets than the . If the R-62As were to return to the , it would be a far worse nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 22, 2010 Share #57 Posted June 22, 2010 True, but it would be better to have many R-62As on the (and consequently, some of those R-62As showing up on the ) than to have the run R-62As, because of all the Lexington lines, the is by far the worst in terms of crowding (I remember taking it to/from middle school; those days were hellish). As for the , although it is crowded, it is the least crowded line on Lexington Avenue, which means it would be more capable of handling several R-62A sets than the . If the R-62As were to return to the , it would be a far worse nightmare. Well see, the is not as interconnected as the or the , you see? Oh yes, there would be a delay here and there on the if the junior hippos do return, but delays, if they plague the line, would be more of an endemic issue. Meaning it happens there, it sticks there. However, if the or the receives a significant amount of cars with smaller doors, longer dwell times can occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted June 22, 2010 Share #58 Posted June 22, 2010 I still doubt the 'politics' issue. If people don't like it then tough. The trains are there just to get ppl to point B. They don't like it then they can drive or cram themselves onto the . But as for the order of cars going, that's probably right about it being the ones on the first. 1909 or some other 1900 car was scrapped, so that's one set that will never be a 5-car set and those 4 cars could be used as work cars. But as for the rest, there's no reason to keep them as singles. theyll need more than 4, eventually all those R33 based work cars will need to be retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 23, 2010 Share #59 Posted June 23, 2010 Well, ok, there will be 'spares' since the R188s will not be retiring anything. So if they need R62As to replace the R33 work cars, then they can use mostly the 1900 cars. But as for the rest of the 1900s-2150 cars, they should be linked, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Line1291 Posted June 23, 2010 Share #60 Posted June 23, 2010 Couldn't they just put the spare R-62As on the ? If they can't put them back on the Lexington lines (, , ) due to door width or whatever, and being that the and already have R-62As and R-62s, respectively, then that would make the the seemingly ideal candidate for recieving the spare R-62As from the . And thus, the R-142/As transferred from the to the could be replaced with R-142s coming from the line (which could in turn recieve the R-62As, as opposed to the getting them).That idea brings me back down memory lane.... I came up w/ a idea like that when I was new on NYCTF. It's not impossible for R62As to be on the cause the Redbirds were on there before but was probaly inconvenent swapping. If I had to play this out, the R62As would belong to the and R142s from the would go to the . Since R62As on the has LED displays, this would make the swap somewhat easier only changing the signs at the end of the cars from to or to and the red LED diamond indicating service and the green LED circle indicating service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted June 23, 2010 Share #61 Posted June 23, 2010 True, but it would be better to have many R-62As on the (and consequently, some of those R-62As showing up on the ) than to have the run R-62As, because of all the Lexington lines, the is by far the worst in terms of crowding (I remember taking it to/from middle school; those days were hellish). As for the , although it is crowded, it is the least crowded line on Lexington Avenue, which means it would be more capable of handling several R-62A sets than the . If the R-62As were to return to the , it would be a far worse nightmare. The to Bowling Green middays WAS the least crowded Lexington Ave line because people wanted to go to Brooklyn, hence the crowds at Bowling Green. Now that the and both go to BK during the day that argument is out the door. It was determined that if any Lex line was a prime candidate for R62A cars it would have to be the because it would only affect 1 line , while any other scenario would affect 2 or more lines( , and ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 23, 2010 Share #62 Posted June 23, 2010 The to Bowling Green middays WAS the least crowded Lexington Ave line because people wanted to go to Brooklyn, hence the crowds at Bowling Green. Now that the and both go to BK during the day that argument is out the door. It was determined that if any Lex line was a prime candidate for R62A cars it would have to be the because it would only affect 1 line , while any other scenario would affect 2 or more lines( , and ). My point exactly, there are enough factors that contribute to delays (Union Square, heavy crowds, Rogers Jct.). Smaller doors would exacerbate the problems and there's a potential that they could bring delays to the and lines because of the fact that they interline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Line1291 Posted June 23, 2010 Share #63 Posted June 23, 2010 I'll admit the R62A's are most likely to go to the , but oohh man would I like to see R62A's on the before they retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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