news Crips gang thug gets 20 years in vicious stab slay of bus driver Edwin Thomas

[Joe]

Firstly, huh?

 

Secondly, i was referring to the death penalty in a separate thought responding to a comment someone else made.

 

Also, um, there are plenty of dead innocent people that were sent to their deaths by a judge or jury, in fact one study highlighted in a presentation at temple i attended pointed out that up to 30% of those on death row or killed by death penalty were innocent or guilty of a lesser crime than accused.

 

You know, parents who promote violence and aggression/inappropriate assertiveness by threatening their children with violence and threats, combined with social injustice, racism, and simple rough circumstances of life is why these people end up joining gangs. Who woulnd't want to feel like they belong and like someone has their back, and maybe some money.

 

These kids can't find a real job and many their peers and elders also do not value education as much as they should, so they end up uneducated and desperate.

 

I may not live in new york, but i've spent enough time around these environments, people, and situations to understand that it is not a simple fix, and killing people because their life situation pointed them towards disaster isn't fair. Yes of course it is wrong to take a life, but it is also wrong to take a life as a form of punishment as well.

 

- A

 

Are you aware of the phrase "personal responsibility"? It seems to be a common theme throughout your posts that you're always advocating blaming someone else or waiting for someone else to give a hand out. There is nobody to blame here except this piece of shit. You can't blame his parents, you can't blame his school, you can't blame the city. You can only blame HIM.

 

Also, as a side note, I like the way to worded that so-called 30% statistic concerning the death penalty..."up to 30%" (emphasis mine). Very nice way of saying "the real number is somewhere between 0% and 30%, but i'll say 30% just for dramatic effect".

[Andrew]

Firstly, huh?

 

Secondly, i was referring to the death penalty in a separate thought responding to a comment someone else made.

 

Also, um, there are plenty of dead innocent people that were sent to their deaths by a judge or jury, in fact one study highlighted in a presentation at temple i attended pointed out that up to 30% of those on death row or killed by death penalty were innocent or guilty of a lesser crime than accused.

 

You know, parents who promote violence and aggression/inappropriate assertiveness by threatening their children with violence and threats, combined with social injustice, racism, and simple rough circumstances of life is why these people end up joining gangs. Who woulnd't want to feel like they belong and like someone has their back, and maybe some money.

 

These kids can't find a real job and many their peers and elders also do not value education as much as they should, so they end up uneducated and desperate.

 

I may not live in new york, but i've spent enough time around these environments, people, and situations to understand that it is not a simple fix, and killing people because their life situation pointed them towards disaster isn't fair. Yes of course it is wrong to take a life, but it is also wrong to take a life as a form of punishment as well.

 

- A

 

I have a great idea.

 

Why dont you take these "victims" as you describe them and let them live with YOUR family.Let them live with YOUR mother and father.YOUR wife and kids.

 

I am sick and tired of people like you making excuse after excuse for these living tumors.

[East New York]

I actually agree with all of you to a certain extent. People are likely to become a product of their environment, but most time that still is not an excuse for their actions.

[INDman]

People are likely to become a product of their environment, but most time that still is not an excuse for their actions.

 

It's never an excuse...

[metsfan]

Question for you metsfan. What would you have done if he killed your father? If it were me, I would have destroyed him. Physically beaten him down until the only way to identify him was the blood soaked puddle on the floor after what's left of him. I wouldn't even need a weapon to do it. If I couldn't do it personally because he had government protection, I would find out what prison he is in, find an inmate, make a deal with that inmate to kill this trash if I didn't get the opportunity to rip him apart myself. If you didn't desire to kill him as well, I would be ashamed to be your father. And I'm not even a violent person.

 

It doesn't matter, killing is wrong. What would i do, i dunno i have not spoken to my father since i was 3, but most likely i'd be upset and that's about it. My emotions do not rule me.

 

- A

[metsfan]

It's never an excuse...

 

Nope, but it's the cause.

 

- A

[East New York]

It's never an excuse...

 

Sometimes if people don't get psychological help, they are doomed.

[Locomotion69]

Sometimes if people don't get psychological help, they are doomed.

 

And sometimes people who are under psychological care get worse.

[metsfan]

Are you aware of the phrase "personal responsibility"? It seems to be a common theme throughout your posts that you're always advocating blaming someone else or waiting for someone else to give a hand out. There is nobody to blame here except this piece of shit. You can't blame his parents, you can't blame his school, you can't blame the city. You can only blame HIM.

 

Also, as a side note, I like the way to worded that so-called 30% statistic concerning the death penalty..."up to 30%" (emphasis mine). Very nice way of saying "the real number is somewhere between 0% and 30%, but i'll say 30% just for dramatic effect".

 

I have a great idea.

 

Why dont you take these "victims" as you describe them and let them live with YOUR family.Let them live with YOUR mother and father.YOUR wife and kids.

 

I am sick and tired of people like you making excuse after excuse for these living tumors.

 

You 2 seem to have a lot of bitterness going on there.

 

See, i have this thing called compassion, and it isn't selective. Both of you should feel lucky to have internet access, computer etc, but no instead you use it to single people out and spew vicious crap at them.

 

If you wish to be small minded, insulting, bitter and negative, do it without involving me, thanks! :tup:

 

- A

[Joe]

You 2 seem to have a lot of bitterness going on there.

 

See, i have this thing called compassion, and it isn't selective. Both of you should feel lucky to have internet access, computer etc, but no instead you use it to single people out and spew vicious crap at them.

 

If you wish to be small minded, insulting, bitter and negative, do it without involving me, thanks! :tup:

 

- A

 

Typical bourgeoisie liberal trying to make themselves seem better than everyone else. Everyone else is small-minded. Everyone else is bitter. Except them. They are perfect.

 

All that "compassion" that you have for criminals and degenerates is wasted effort. Maybe you should refocus all that energy on endeavors worth pursuing?

 

By the way, seeing as you brought up vicious...i'm sure you have no problem with the vicious attack on an innocent bus driver who was just doing their job, right? As we all know, we must have compassion for the murderer, no matter how much he has been shown to disrespect society.

[Messino]

No not my baby boy! Not my son, hes a good boy, he doesnt deserve this! Hes a good boy!

 

I've heard this many times ..Some dome delusional mother in denial when their boy robbed, shot, or murdered someone...

 

like this dead punks family ..

 

 

 

Kid and his friend robs a Pharmacy and points a gun at the pahrmacist, A retired disabled veteran LT. Colonel doctor from the Mrine Corps, who then shoots the kid in the head killing him instantly, goes out to get the accoplice and then goes back inside the store and pumps the dead perps body with 4 more rounds due to shock...What happened? The kids parents claim it was not right what the Pharmacist did and the NAACP puts pressure on the DA to arrest the pharmacist...Pathetic... and whats worse is this guy now has to spend tons on lawyers for his own self defense because his life was in danger. BURN the NAACP they do nothing but cause trouble more than they help and the liberals in this country..

 

 

[Joe]

No not my baby boy! Not my son, hes a good boy, he doesnt deserve this! Hes a good boy!

 

I've heard this many times ..Some dome delusional mother in denial when their boy robbed, shot, or murdered someone...

 

I love it when the communion photo comes out. That's the true mark of a delusional parent. Of course, the perp is always an aspiring artist, baseball player, crack dealer, etc...

[tim66]

i think that kid got what he deserved that fact cant be argued!It was a lil excessive shooting him a second time after he was wounded on the floor.The kids family screaming he was a good kid is crazy that child was a thug in training!MR MESSINO I DONT AGREE WITH BURNING THE NAACP!

[Blatherskite]

BURN the NAACP they do nothing but cause trouble more than they help and the liberals in this country..

 

 

 

You sound a lot like the KKK guys during their infamous lynching of black men. Replace NAACP with a black racist term, and you sound exactly like them. Change NAACP to books written by Jews, or just replace it with Jews, and you sound a lot like a Nazi. This thread was solely about a Bus Operator being killed, and the injustice due to the laws in NY state, not a thread about being a racism spewing ahole filled with misspellings like "dome" when "dumb" was the intended word. Who is the "dome" one now? Start your own KKK loving website and go away both of you bigots Messino and Joe.

[tim66]

thank you phrasier crane well said!!!!!

[Messino]

You sound a lot the KKK guys during their infamous lynchings of black men. Replace NAACP with a black racist term, and you sound exactly like them. Change NAACP to books written by Jews, or just replace it with Jews, and you sound a lot like a Nazi.

 

Im just saying, most organizations do more harm than good...and the name in itslef sounds kinda racist, Colored people??? ANd it was also founded by white people but they will never admit to that.

[Blatherskite]

Im just saying, most organizations do more harm than good...and the name in itslef sounds kinda racist, Colored people??? ANd it was also founded by white people but they will never admit to that.

 

And the bigoted fool just adds proof that he is a bigot. And who exactly is "they"? dem colods dat bin a causin dat truble round aunt Maple's farm? We's gots ta makum pay right messino? You racist ^&$^&$. How about your Cuomo the homo comment that you tried to hide by acting as if you meant homo sapiens when it was clear that you were trying to hide it as an anti gay crack.

[tim66]

Im just saying, most organizations do more harm than good...and the name in itslef sounds kinda racist, Colored people??? ANd it was also founded by white people but they will never admit to that.

 

messino your statement was a kind of heavy!it sounded racist!

[SubwayGuy]

I love it when the communion photo comes out. That's the true mark of a delusional parent. Of course, the perp is always an aspiring artist, baseball player, crack dealer, etc...

 

In the case of the bolded he's an aspiring "businessman"

 

And I hold the perp in the same contempt I hold businessmen.

[East New York]

No not my baby boy! Not my son, hes a good boy, he doesnt deserve this! Hes a good boy!

 

I've heard this many times ..Some dome delusional mother in denial when their boy robbed, shot, or murdered someone...

 

like this dead punks family ..

 

Kid and his friend robs a Pharmacy and points a gun at the pahrmacist, A retired disabled veteran LT. Colonel doctor from the Mrine Corps, who then shoots the kid in the head killing him instantly, goes out to get the accoplice and then goes back inside the store and pumps the dead perps body with 4 more rounds due to shock...What happened? The kids parents claim it was not right what the Pharmacist did and the NAACP puts pressure on the DA to arrest the pharmacist...Pathetic... and whats worse is this guy now has to spend tons on lawyers for his own self defense because his life was in danger. BURN the NAACP they do nothing but cause trouble more than they help and the liberals in this country..

 

 

Now why exactly would the NAACP need to be burned? How in the world has this organization done more harm than good? What harm is this that you speak of anyway? And let's not forget a conservative drove this country into a ditch, lied about intelligence reports, and involved us in a totally pointless war. So I'm confused.

 

I love it when the communion photo comes out. That's the true mark of a delusional parent. Of course, the perp is always an aspiring artist, baseball player, crack dealer, etc...

 

You know some people are angels in the public eye, and black sheep when nobody is paying attention. Some people really do see their kids one way because they are living a double life. Once again, it's not that cut-and-dry.

[Blatherskite]

Now why exactly would the NAACP need to be burned? How in the world has this organization done more harm than good? What harm is this that you speak of anyway?

 

Because he doesn't have his plantation with the coloreds picking cotton for free for his dumb ass. It's all their fault! Screw them for wanting to be treated like people and not property. How dare they. lol. Messino is a pure cancer.

[Messino]

Ok NAACP being burned was excessive, I was just being silly. But in this day and age that organiztion causes more trouble than good. Nah im not racist, there is trash from every race and obviously not all black americans are the same and I dont generalize...

[Messino]

And the bigoted fool just adds proof that he is a bigot. And who exactly is "they"? dem colods dat bin a causin dat truble round aunt Maple's farm? We's gots ta makum pay right messino? You racist ^&$^&$. How about your Cuomo the homo comment that you tried to hide by acting as if you meant homo sapiens when it was clear that you were trying to hide it as an anti gay crack.

 

Im not from the south so that kind of racism is foreign to me.. Im a yankee... I dont get along with most "red necks"

 

THEY is the NAACP is it really that hard to figure out what I meant by they?

[Blatherskite]

Ok NAACP being burned was excessive, I was just being silly. But in this day and age that organiztion causes more trouble than good. Nah im not racist, there is trash from every race and obviously not all black americans are the same and I dont generalize...

 

 

 

Im not from the south so that kind of racism is foreign to me.. Im a yankee... I dont get along with most "red necks"

 

THEY is the NAACP is it really that hard to figure out what I meant by they?

 

You were just being silly? How loud is the beeping sound you make when you back up like that? I'm sure Hitler was being silly when he said to kill everyone that silly rascal. How was he to know everyone was going to follow his orders? I'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer was only hungry as well if we apply your warped thinking.

 

You don't generalize? I hope you are making an ironic joke there. Then again, you probably don't know what ironic is. Your statement reminds me of three classic "I'm not" quotes that were hilariously stupid and pretty much the opposite. "I am not a witch, I am you." "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky", and finally, let's not forget Tricky Dick's "I am not a crook" Take out not from those 3 quotes and your statement and you get the truth of the statement. Add you're "nah, I'm not racist" to it ass well.

 

So you are not from the south, and that form of racism is foreign to you? So then you are saying the form of racism that is familiar to you is when a group of one race attacks another on city streets as opposed to a hanging by the old oak tree? I see.

 

Everyone knows by "they" you did not mean the NAACP, you meant black people that you are assuming are racist. You're argument is as graceful as a clumsy child.

 

So you are a skankee and don't get along with most rednecks? Could it be because you are not that different, so you dislike them because they remind you of you and all your obvious faults?

 

You must have a lot of foot cheese in your mouth having your foot in it all day.

[Messino]

You were just being silly? How loud is the beeping sound you make when you back up like that? I'm sure Hitler was being silly when he said to kill everyone that silly rascal. How was he to know everyone was going to follow his orders? I'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer was only hungry as well if we apply your warped thinking.

 

You don't generalize? I hope you are making an ironic joke there. Then again, you probably don't know what ironic is. Your statement reminds me of three classic "I'm not" quotes that were hilariously stupid and pretty much the opposite. "I am not a witch, I am you." "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky", and finally, let's not forget Tricky Dick's "I am not a crook" Take out not from those 3 quotes and your statement and you get the truth of the statement. Add you're "nah, I'm not racist" to it ass well.

 

So you are not from the south, and that form of racism is foreign to you? So then you are saying the form of racism that is familiar to you is when a group of one race attacks another on city streets as opposed to a hanging by the old oak tree? I see.

 

Everyone knows by "they" you did not mean the NAACP, you meant black people that you are assuming are racist. You're argument is as graceful as a clumsy child.

 

So you are a skankee and don't get along with most rednecks? Could it be because you are not that different, so you dislike them because they remind you of you and all your obvious faults?

 

You must have a lot of foot cheese in your mouth having your foot in it all day.

 

dude you need shrink, stop over analyzing it and get over it. I dont know what race you are and I really dont care, but you obviaoulsy are a racist yourself in one form or another from your past belligerent posts and ramblings..