Rehab of the Jamaica line...

[dmouse]

When is the (J)/(Z) Jamaica line (121st - Cypress hills) Suppose to start getting rehabilitated? Someone posted it was getting it soon but i dont remember the thread however..

[Bill from Maspeth]

When is the (J)/(Z) Jamaica line (121st - Cypress hills) Suppose to start getting rehabilitated? Someone posted it was getting it soon but i dont remember the thread however..

News to me.

 

As far as I know the structure is supposed to the re-painted but that's about it.

[Guest MTA Bus]

When is the (J)/(Z) Jamaica line (121st - Cypress hills) Suppose to start getting rehabilitated? Someone posted it was getting it soon but i dont remember the thread however..

 

They are renovating some of the stations entrances along the jamaica line

[Roadcruiser1]

The rehab will give the Jamaica Elevated a new coat of paint, and some station renovations. Most likely they will paint the elevated line green like they did for every other elevated line under the (MTA)'s jurisdiction.

 

Here is an old article about a year ago.

 

Bolts from above: Elevated subway tracks dropping parts in Jamaica

Chips of peeling paint aren't the only things that fall from the subway tracks that run over Jamaica Ave.

 

Steel bolts from the structure have come loose and dropped to the ground, alarmed local leaders said.

 

"People walk into my office all the time with these bolts," said Maria Thompson of the Greater Woodhaven Development Corp., as a train rumbled above her head.

 

Thompson gathered with a group of local officials this week and called on the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to dip into its capital funds and pay for an extensive rehabilitation of the elevated tracks, which currently carry the and train lines.

 

City Councilwoman Elizabeth Crowley (D-Middle Village) said she doesn't know how much a renovation would cost, but argued it's a more worthy project than the multibillion-dollar Second Ave. subway construction in Manhattan.

 

"They should fix what is currently being used before they start a new project," she said.

 

The long stretch of overhead tracks that runs through Jamaica, Richmond Hill and Woodhaven to the Brooklyn-Queens border is marred by peeling paint, rusted metal and cracked cement.

 

"This is what happens when you neglect steel for far too long," Crowley said.

 

State Sen. Joseph Addabbo (D-Howard Beach) said the MTA has done patchwork repairs on the tracks, but can't remember the last time it was painted.

 

"I'm pretty sure some of this is from when I was a kid," said Addabbo, who is 45. "We're long overdue for a major renovation."

 

In a statement, MTA officials said the proposed 2010-1014 capital plan has more than $500 million set aside for rehabilitation, painting and other enhancements.

 

They said repairs are planned for 7.3miles of elevated tracks along the Jamaica line, Far Rockaway and Rockaway Park viaducts, but did not provide specifics.

 

Thompson, who has been pushing to get the tracks a new paint job for almost 15 years, said the sad state of the train line is a sore subject for Jamaica Ave. merchants who are struggling to stay afloat.

 

"The storeowners try hard to keep their properties clean," she said. "This is very disheartening for them."

 

 

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/queens/2009/08/27/2009-08-27_what_the_el_parts_of_track_fall.html#ixzz17ApI4Epu

 

Here is a picture of the Jamaica Elevated showing the conditions of the line.

 

Here is a second article from half a year ago

Ugly train el finally slated for much-needed facelift says MTA

The long-neglected train el, which casts a gloomy shadow over Jamaica Ave. in Woodhaven and Richmond Hill, is slated to get a facelift next year.

 

Metropolitan Transportation Authority officials told City Councilwoman Elizabeth Crowley on Wednesday that part of the span will be repaired and painted forest green, Crowley said.

 

The underside of the tracks is currently marred by chipped paint as well as dirt and grease that have accumulated over decades. Residents and merchants alike have griped that the elevated tracks are an eyesore that hurts the lively shopping strip.

 

"I'm just thrilled," said Maria Thompson of the Greater Woodhaven Development Corp. "It will be such a psychological lift. We're so tired of bolts falling from it, and the rust and how embarrassing it looks."

 

The 30-month project, tentatively scheduled to start next year, would rehabilitate steel girders and paint almost 3 miles of the line between the Cypress Hills station and 130th St.

 

The work is expected to cost between $20 million and $30 million.

 

Crowley, along with Councilman Eric Ulrich, state Sen. Joseph Addabbo Jr. and Assemblyman Mike Miller have been pressuring the MTA's New York City Transit to spruce up the unsightly structure.

 

"This renovation will not only serve as a vehicle for economic growth in the area but will create a safer environment for residents and shoppers," Crowley said.

 

Steve Esposito, who owns the Orthopedic Shoe Clinic on Jamaica Ave., said the announcement is good news for local store owners. "Anything that brightens up the neighborhood is always going to help," he said.

 

"We take care of our properties. They should have done this 10 years ago."

 

But Esposito said he won't celebrate until he sees the work actually being done.

 

"We've been promised this before," he said.

 

 

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/queens/2010/06/18/2010-06-18_with_facelift_vow_things_looking_up_under_j_train_el.html#ixzz17ArHfCq3

 

[uptown164]

pretty similar to the facelifts the elevate stations in the bronx got its about time

[Messino]

Theyve already started this. They have been tearing down the old stairways that lead to the street and replaced them with new ones.

[Roadcruiser1]

Anyway is it just me or does the mostly neglect the Jamaica and the Nassau Street Lines (J)/(Z). From here it looks like they just ignore the whole line till conditions get really bad then they focus on repairing the line. I mean even the West End Elevated the line I live by gets better treatment. The line is painted forest green, and is maintained that way, and recently they have had replaced the original concrete footings of the West End Elevated with new ones, they strengthened the frame of the tracks and the steel below, and they are rebuilding the staircases with new steel ones and the platform walls and floors, but the question is why did they ignore the Jamaica Elevated (J)/(Z) for such a long time, and had overlooked it till now.

[cdi919]

the only thing i have heard is the j line will get a paint job. its the same company thats doing the 7 line. thats why they are in a mad dash to finish the 111st area, so that next spring they can start the j line.

[R32 3348]

Anyway is it just me or does the mostly neglect the Jamaica and the Nassau Street Lines (J)/(Z). From here it looks like they just ignore the whole line till conditions get really bad then they focus on repairing the line. I mean even the West End Elevated the line I live by gets better treatment. The line is painted forest green, and is maintained that way, and recently they have had replaced the original concrete footings of the West End Elevated with new ones, they strengthened the frame of the tracks and the steel below, and they are rebuilding the staircases with new steel ones and the platform walls and floors, but the question is why did they ignore the Jamaica Elevated (J)/(Z) for such a long time, and had overlooked it till now.

It's arguably not just the Jamaica line that's gotten this bad. The Sea Beach line is in comparable structural condition. The good thing is that all of these stations which need attention are getting it in this and the 2010-2014 Capital program. The Jamaica Ave. stations east of Crescent St. aren't exactly in the best shape, but they're not in deplorable condition either. The el needs a real good painting though, and it's good that it's getting one.

[Roadcruiser1]

Not being off topic, but if I remember correctly from a reading the BMT Jamaica Elevated Line was built to handle a third track addition. The third track addition was never added because they never had the money and the elevated structure would need to be retrofitted a bit to take the additional third track. Though if the ever gets any money someday perhaps it might happen, but not now. Anyway it would be interesting if they did add a third track as part of the rehab, but I seriously doubt that would happen. All the would do is pound some nails, put some steel, and give the line a paint job, and that's it.

[TrainFanatic]

Two of the three stairways at Cypress Hills have been replaced (NTM they look pretty good).

 

I guess I better start taking shots of the structure now before its repaint.

[Messino]

Two of the three stairways at Cypress Hills have been replaced (NTM they look pretty good).

 

I guess I better start taking shots of the structure now before its repaint.

 

So has the 95th street stairway of woodhaven, the 104th street stairways, 111th street stairways... This has been going on since the summertime.

[TrainFanatic]

So has the 95th street stairway of woodhaven, the 104th street stairways, 111th street stairways... This has been going on since the summertime.

 

Thanks for the info. I only knew about Cypress Hills and 75th St since I hardly walk past 75th St for any reason.

[pr1nyc1]

Anyone agree with this:

 

"City Councilwoman Elizabeth Crowley (D-Middle Village) said she doesn't know how much a renovation would cost, but argued it's a more worthy project than the multibillion-dollar Second Ave. subway construction in Manhattan."

[NX Express]

Anyone agree with this:

 

"City Councilwoman Elizabeth Crowley (D-Middle Village) said she doesn't know how much a renovation would cost, but argued it's a more worthy project than the multibillion-dollar Second Ave. subway construction in Manhattan."

 

Send her to ride the Lex every day!

[IRT Bronx Express]

In my opinion, I believe that both projects are important. Yes, Lexington is overcrowded and the (4)/(5)/(6) are not enough to relieve the overcrowded stations, but what about the neglected Jamaica elevated line? God forbid the elevated structure tumbles down to the ground, and then what happens? Other useless, unimportant projects like the extension, CBTC on the Flushing line, and the so called "(7) to New Jersey" are not needed at all.

[NX Express]

In my opinion, I believe that both projects are important. Yes, Lexington is overcrowded and the (4)/(5)/(6) are not enough to relieve the overcrowded stations, but what about the neglected Jamaica elevated line? God forbid the elevated structure tumbles down to the ground, and then what happens?

 

It's important, however, the Jamaica Line should not be rehabbed with SAS money. Last time they stole money from SAS for upkeep was almost 50 years ago...where's the again?