Vintage Manhattan Bridge Rehab. 1986

[NYCTNostalgia]

[Shortline Bus]

Oh yes.What was supposed to be a few months turned into nearly a 20 year endless project.:eek:

[Roadcruiser1]

I remember the Manhattan Bridge rehab when I was young. It was a pain in the a**. Since I was born on 1993 I never knew that the (, , , crossed the Manhattan Bridge historically until 2004 when the bridge fully reopened.

[MattTrain]

From 1988-2001 If I recall correctly, the Broadway South tracks were closed with the rerouting of the via 6 Avenue to 21 Street Queensbridge and recoloring the into(Q6Av) , then the ( North 6 Avenue Tracks were closed 2001-2004.

[Shortline Bus]

From 1988-2001 If I recall correctly, the Broadway South tracks were closed with the rerouting of the via 6 Avenue to 21 Street Queensbridge and recoloring the into(Q6Av) , then the ( North 6 Avenue Tracks were closed 2001-2004.

 

Correct. 1 minor correction. The ran to 57th/6th for about a year until the 21st./QueensBridge stations opened in late 1989.

 

 

From 1986-'88, the ( and had been split into '2 section. The Broadway line which they were later the =( West End and the =(D)Brighton Lines. Thus the became the Broadway/4th Ave Local for the rest of the project until

2004.

While the was switched over to the West End where it remained until June 2009.

[Roadcruiser1]

Well here is the breakdown. First they closed the North Side of the Manhattan Bridge, and the yellow (, , along with the , and crossed the South Side. Then they closed the South Side of the Manhattan Bridge, and the was redirected into the Montague Street Tunnel along with the . The train service that crossed the bridge at this time was the (, , (Q6Av). Then they closed the North Side of the Manhattan Bridge again. The still used the Montague Street Tunnel, and the trains crossing the bridge at this time was the , , . In the end all repairs were done, and it is in the same configuration (, ,, as before the Manhattan Bridge shut down.

[Abba]

I like the way they describe the changes.Wish they had something like that now. I also like that idea about nighttime fewer cars on the(4) to provide more security.

[Shortline Bus]

Well here is the breakdown. First they closed the North Side of the Manhattan Bridge, and the yellow (, , along with the , and crossed the South Side. Then they closed the South Side of the Manhattan Bridge, and the was redirected into the Montague Street Tunnel along with the . The train service that crossed the bridge at this time was the (, , (Q6Av). Then they closed the North Side of the Manhattan Bridge again. The still used the Montague Street Tunnel, and the trains crossing the bridge at this time was the , , . In the end all repairs were done, and it is in the same configuration (, ,, as before the Manhattan Bridge shut down.

 

 

Not to be rude. I said the same thing above roadcrusier that was much more brief..:eek:

[Brighton Local]

For a brief period in 1990, the was once again rerouted via Bridge. So in essence, the ((Q6Av) ran together during that time via bridge.

[Kamen Rider]

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[Brighton Local]

then there was the short time when nothing went over the bridge during the day. though the only place I've seen that map is the menu at "Ben's Kosher Deli"

 

That was April to November of 1995.

[Roadcruiser1]

Though I am getting worried that every time a train crosses the Manhattan Bridge the bridge is taking in more damage, because of the way the bridge was built with the train tracks on the side of the bridge. The bridge takes in a massive amount of damage every time the train crosses the bridge. The tracks are supposed to be located at the center of the bridge like on the Williamsburg Bridge.

[Shortline Bus]

For a brief period in 1990, the was once again rerouted via Bridge. So in essence, the ((Q6Av) ran together during that time via bridge.

 

I remember that. The City's DOT thought that the Broadway side of the tracks could handle about a year's worth of subway traffic until the next long term closure and work began again in mid-1991. However, just 3 months later they had to close it again for the next 11 years.

 

The ran briefly from about Sept.-Dec. 1990 before not returning again on the Bridge(other than "G/O's)full time till 2004.

[Dynamic Vaudeville]

I enjoyed reading that service change pamphlet; it made the seem more in touch with its riders than the bureaucratic monopoly it has become today.

[Nature]

Yea imagine getting stuck on a callapsing bridge in the middle of the ocean.

[harpomarx42]

That was April to November of 1995.

 

If that was the case, where were the (Q6Av) sent in Manhattan/Brooklyn?

[T to Dyre Avenue]

I enjoyed reading that service change pamphlet; it made the seem more in touch with its riders than the bureaucratic monopoly it has become today.

Yeah, the way they worded that pamphlet with phrases and words like "unfortunately" with regards to the being made local and "for real" for how the subways were "coming back" was a nice touch and the descriptions of the service changes were informative. But the was still the same bureaucratic monopoly then that it is now.

[T to Dyre Avenue]

If that was the case, where were the (Q6Av) sent in Manhattan/Brooklyn?

- Shuttle between Pacific and Stillwell

 

- 205th to 34th Street, same as 1986-88 and 2001-04

 

(Q6Av) - Replaced by which ran local in Brooklyn from Stillwell, via the Montague Tunnel, local from Whitehall to Canal and express from Canal to 57th Street. Used the Broadway connecting tracks north of 57th Street to get to 21st Street-Queensbridge.

 

Grand Street was served by a (S6) train to Broadway-Lafayette, same as 1986-88 and 2001-04.

[T to Dyre Avenue]

Correct. 1 minor correction. The ran to 57th/6th for about a year until the 21st./QueensBridge stations opened in late 1989.

 

 

From 1986-'88, the and had been split into '2 section. The Broadway line which they were later the = West End and the =(D)Brighton Lines. Thus the became the Broadway/4th Ave Local for the rest of the project until

2004.

While the was switched over to the West End where it remained until June 2009.

The did run express in Brooklyn on weekdays from 1994 onwards, but ran express only during rush hours in May-November 1995 to allow the shuttle to terminate at Pacific. It ran express in Brooklyn 24/7 from September 2002 to February 2004 when it ran as a Shuttle from Pacific to 86th Streets weekends and 36th to 86th late nights. It began running express all times except nights once all four Manhattan Bridge tracks were back in service.

[Sam]

Also, the (Mx) was affected with a number of service changes. If memory serves me right, it was switched from the Brighton line to 95th Street via 4th Avenue local.

 

Then the (Mx) was truncated to 36th Street as the 4th Avenue express and the became a 4th Avenue local. Shortly after, the (Mx) was extended to 9th Avenue during non-rush hours and extended further to Bay Parkway. In 1995, the (Mx) became a 4th Avenue local again and the became an express once again.

 

Eventually, the (Mx) was truncated to Chambers Street and extended to Bay Parkway during rush hours and that service was maintained until last June when it became the 6th Avenue .

 

Considering that the(M) was not directly affected by the Manhattan Bridge reconstruction project, it certainly saw massive route changes since the project began,

[Q43 Floral Park]

A little off topic but what exactly were they doing on the that knocked out express service?

[DJ MC]

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[Guest lance25]

A little off topic but what exactly were they doing on the that knocked out express service?

 

Rehabbing the express tracks.

 

Also, the (Mx) was affected with a number of service changes. If memory serves me right, it was switched from the Brighton line to 95th Street via 4th Avenue local.

 

Then the (Mx) was truncated to 36th Street as the 4th Avenue express and the became a 4th Avenue local. Shortly after, the (Mx) was extended to 9th Avenue during non-rush hours and extended further to Bay Parkway. In 1995, the (Mx) became a 4th Avenue local again and the became an express once again.

 

Eventually, the (Mx) was truncated to Chambers Street and extended to Bay Parkway during rush hours and that service was maintained until last June when it became the 6th Avenue .

 

Considering that the(M) was not directly affected by the Manhattan Bridge reconstruction project, it certainly saw massive route changes since the project began,

 

The (Mx) line's changes were affected by the Brighton rehabs of the '80s. If they didn't need to fix the tracks and platforms along the Brighton line, the (Mx) might have died there.

[harpomarx42]

( - Shuttle between Pacific and Stillwell

 

- 205th to 34th Street, same as 1986-88 and 2001-04

 

(Q6Av) - Replaced by which ran local in Brooklyn from Stillwell, via the Montague Tunnel, local from Whitehall to Canal and express from Canal to 57th Street. Used the Broadway connecting tracks north of 57th Street to get to 21st Street-Queensbridge.

 

Grand Street was served by a (S6) train to Broadway-Lafayette, same as 1986-88 and 2001-04.

 

So there was briefly a in the 90s? Via Whitehall? Interesting.

*cue theme to The More You Know*

[Roadcruiser1]

Didn't the Nassau Street Line use to utilize the South Side of the Manhattan Bridge via Nassau Street Loop, but they removed it when they brought in the Chrystie Street Connection.