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Is it Possible To See 18 St And The Union Sq Wreck On Trains?

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Can you see 18 St And the Union Sq Wreck?

This Thread Is also About How the Union Sq Wreck Hapend.How Did this happen?

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You can see the 18th Street station when you are on the (6), and on the (4) and (5) whenever a local train isn't blocking the view. About the Union Square Wreck the Motormen was drunk and high on the job, and took his train to a high speed and it derailed causing an accident. You can't see the Union Square Wreck, because the R62's that were badly damaged in the incident were scrapped, and the ones that weren't were put back into service. However I am certain that you can tell a difference in the tunnel structure/wall when you are getting close to the site of the wreck, because of the repairs that took place after the wreck.

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Well the R62 derailed and hit the column wall so I am certain there would have had been repairs done to the wall which you can most certainly tell if you are looking carefully when you are riding a (4) train to 14th Street.

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Here you go (NYC Subway.org)

1435, 1436-1440

1436-1440 were the lead set of cars involved in the Union Square wreck of 8/28/1991. 1440 derailed, hit pillar, left with huge gash in side. 1439 sustained end, roof, and side damage. 1437 hit pillar and split in two. 1435, the 6th car in the train, also damaged. 1435, 1437, 1439, 1440 scrapped. 1436 still at 207th St. Yard with some front end and body damage. 1438 is now in the series 1431-1432-1433-1434-1438.

 

Here is an image of the survivors of the Union Square Wreck (Subway cars of course)

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Wait if the Motorman was drucken and he went to Mta Headquarters to drive his train they didnt see him that he was drucken at let him drive???

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You can see the 18th Street station when you are on the (6), and on the (4) and (5) whenever a local train isn't blocking the view. About the Union Square Wreck the Motormen was drunk and high on the job, and took his train to a high speed and it derailed causing an accident. You can't see the Union Square Wreck, because the R62's that were badly damaged in the incident were scrapped, and the ones that weren't were put back into service. However I am certain that you can tell a difference in the tunnel structure/wall when you are getting close to the site of the wreck, because of the repairs that took place after the wreck.

 

It was never proven that he was drunk or high while operating that train. He was not tested till the next day. He stated he had a drink afterward because he was in shock. Ta never let the whole story out.

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So i guess its the Mta fault to let 5 lives go away

 

No,it's not the the TA's fault.

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You can see the 18th Street station when you are on the (6), and on the (4) and (5) whenever a local train isn't blocking the view. About the Union Square Wreck the Motormen was drunk and high on the job, and took his train to a high speed and it derailed causing an accident. You can't see the Union Square Wreck, because the R62's that were badly damaged in the incident were scrapped, and the ones that weren't were put back into service. However I am certain that you can tell a difference in the tunnel structure/wall when you are getting close to the site of the wreck, because of the repairs that took place after the wreck.

 

The only thing they changed was they removed the stacking track (where the tanks/pipes are now) and repaired/replaced the pillars that needed to be replaced. Other than that, the tunnel looks very much the way it did on that fateful day.

 

Wait if the Motorman was drucken and he went to Mta Headquarters to drive his train they didnt see him that he was drucken at let him drive???

 

RTO culture was different back then. He was going through the divorce and hitting the bottle hard, and no one wanted to cause even more problems in his life.

 

It was never proven that he was drunk or high while operating that train. He was not tested till the next day. He stated he had a drink afterward because he was in shock. Ta never let the whole story out.

 

Yea, but it was heavily implied throughout that he was heavily inebriated during his run.

 

Btw, he did test positive for cocaine. That part of the story did come out.

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It was never proven that he was drunk or high while operating that train. He was not tested till the next day. He stated he had a drink afterward because he was in shock. Ta never let the whole story out.

 

He also left the scene and began drinking heavily so it could never be proved if he was drunk before the wreck happened.

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Yes. The train was speeding, and derailed hitting the wall. You are telling me you have never seen a high speed crash before?

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How can this Woodlawn Bound (4) Train Brake A Phelham Bay Pk Bound (6) Train???????Im telling you How can a train brake a staircase!

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On August 28, 1991, an accident just north of the station killed five riders and injured 215 others in one of the worst wrecks since a crash at Times Square - 42nd Street on the IRT Broadway - Seventh Avenue Line in 1928 that killed 16 people. The legally intoxicated train operator, Robert Ray, had been overshooting platforms during the entire run from Woodlawn in the Bronx. Just north of this station, his Brooklyn-bound 4 train was to be shifted to the local track due to repair work on the express one. He was running at 40 mph (65 km/h) at a 10 mph (16 km/h) zone and took the switch so fast that only the first car made it through the crossover. The third and fourth cars ended up perpendicular to the tracks, having sheared off support columns and split in half, while the second, fifth, and sixth cars suffered significant damage as well. All five R62 cars involved were scrapped and the IRT Lexington Line suffered heavy damage. Service was disrupted for six days (with trains terminating at 59th Street for the duration) as transit workers toiled around the clock to clean up the wreckage. The entire infrastructure, including signals, switches, track, roadbed, cabling, and 23 support columns needed to be replaced. Ray was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 15 years in prison, but released in April 2002 for good behavior [4].

 

The wreck occurred at the entry to a former pocket track. Like 72nd Street on the IRT Broadway – Seventh Avenue Line, this station was built with extra tracks on the approach to the station. These were between the local and express tracks and approximately 300 feet long. The idea was to have a "stacking" track where a train could be held momentarily until the platform cleared for it to enter the station. The tracks here and at 72nd Street were rendered useless when train lengths grew beyond their capacity. When the damage from the 1991 wreck was repaired, the stacking track was removed.

 

From Wikipedia.

 

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The subway car after the accident, pretty bad damage.

 

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R62 split in half.

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OMG for the 1 picture!

 

where is the wall for the train?

 

It was broken cause the side slammed into the pillar.

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How can this Woodlawn Bound (4) Train Brake A Phelham Bay Pk Bound (6) Train???????Im telling you How can a train brake a staircase!

 

So what your saying is a train can destroy a car but not a staircase? Please kid go sit down my head is hurting.

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