mtattrain Posted August 16, 2011 Share #1 Posted August 16, 2011 Check this out, if you haven't already: http://trn.trains.com/en/Railroad%20News/News%20Wire/2011/07/Connecticut%20places%20order%20for%20un-powered%20M-8%20railcars.aspx What do you think will happen with the M4s and M6s, since they are just 20-30 years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckie Posted August 16, 2011 Share #2 Posted August 16, 2011 Check this out, if you haven't already: http://trn.trains.com/en/Railroad%20News/News%20Wire/2011/07/Connecticut%20places%20order%20for%20un-powered%20M-8%20railcars.aspx The link is only available to Trains magazine subscribers. Other than CT is ordering unpowered M-8s what else does the article say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68 Subway Car Posted August 16, 2011 Share #3 Posted August 16, 2011 I think the MTA just wants to modernize its fleet. Nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodciti Posted August 16, 2011 Share #4 Posted August 16, 2011 whats the point of ordering them unpowered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted August 16, 2011 Share #5 Posted August 16, 2011 this is old news... MNRR is ordering 25 unpowered trailers with an option to order an additional 25. this will allow them to run odd train lengths by placing a trailer in between two married pairs (9101-9102+9500+9105-9106). go here for more details and discussion: http://railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=24214&start=2055 this page and onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted August 16, 2011 Share #6 Posted August 16, 2011 this is old news... MNRR is ordering 25 unpowered trailers with an option to order an additional 25. this will allow them to run odd train lengths by placing a trailer in between two married pairs (9101-9102+9500+9105-9106). go here for more details and discussion: http://railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=24214&start=2055 this page and onwards. Won't these un-powered cars go in between pairs at the 'B' ends; essentially having two 'B' ends themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted August 17, 2011 Share #7 Posted August 17, 2011 Check this out, if you haven't already: http://trn.trains.com/en/Railroad%20News/News%20Wire/2011/07/Connecticut%20places%20order%20for%20un-powered%20M-8%20railcars.aspx What do you think will happen with the M4s and M6s, since they are just 20-30 years old? I think the M6s will be safe, it makes no sense to throw em out they're not that old. Those might be used for New Canaan branch and other rush hour extras. M4s might be scrapped, we know the M2s for certain are gone. Theres still plans to give M8s to Shore Line East so I dont think the M8 order is going to kill off all the older cars, especially ones that still have plenty of good years ahead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodciti Posted August 17, 2011 Share #8 Posted August 17, 2011 As far as Shoreline Eat goes does this mean Amtrak crews will be on M8's past New Haven or will Metro-North be operating thru trains to Old Saybrook and New London? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted August 17, 2011 Share #9 Posted August 17, 2011 It makes sense and it doesn't make sense to off the M4/M6. It makes sense because it would be easier for maintenance and inventory to have only one car type running a la M8. It doesnt make sense because the M4 and M6 arrived in 1987-88 and 1993 respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodciti Posted August 17, 2011 Share #10 Posted August 17, 2011 What may end up happening since the M8 maintenance facility is in New Haven, M8 may just run out of New Haven for service on the main line and shoreline east service. While as mentioned by lilbluefoxie the M4/M6 runs on the New Canaan Branch and peak runs. I assume the current Shoreline East equipment will be moved to the Hartford-Springfield Line whenever that service comes about. Besides adding a few stations I dont know why its taking CT so long to start some kind of limited service to at least Hartford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted August 18, 2011 Share #11 Posted August 18, 2011 Won't these un-powered cars go in between pairs at the 'B' ends; essentially having two 'B' ends themselves? yes, that is true... they will be cab-less and motor-less, so they will need to be coupled to at least one married pair at all times to be shunted around (not withstanding any locomotive powered moves). They will however, be equipped with their own pantograph set for independent HEP supply from the caternary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68 Subway Car Posted August 18, 2011 Share #12 Posted August 18, 2011 I just find it very weird that the MTA is retiring cars that are as old as I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted August 18, 2011 Share #13 Posted August 18, 2011 I think the M6s will be safe, it makes no sense to throw em out they're not that old. Those might be used for New Canaan branch and other rush hour extras. M4s might be scrapped, we know the M2s for certain are gone. Theres still plans to give M8s to Shore Line East so I dont think the M8 order is going to kill off all the older cars, especially ones that still have plenty of good years ahead of them. Let's hope MNRR isn't as dumb as NJ Transit. The comet IIIs and IVs came and the Arrow IIs went bye bye at 27 years old. And the second the ALP-46As came in, the 44s were sidebanked at 21 years old. (Some of them still 15-17 years old). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted August 19, 2011 Share #14 Posted August 19, 2011 Let's hope MNRR isn't as dumb as NJ Transit. The comet IIIs and IVs came and the Arrow IIs went bye bye at 27 years old. And the second the ALP-46As came in, the 44s were sidebanked at 21 years old. (Some of them still 15-17 years old). There are a good number of M8s destined for Shore Line East, while testing and actual construction for that hasnt happened yet, its not a bad guess to say that the MTA is going to need at least the M6s for service at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted August 19, 2011 Share #15 Posted August 19, 2011 As far as Shoreline Eat goes does this mean Amtrak crews will be on M8's past New Haven or will Metro-North be operating thru trains to Old Saybrook and New London? It will be the same as it is now until a new contract is due Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodciti Posted August 19, 2011 Share #16 Posted August 19, 2011 so Amtrak crews will be operating M8s eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted August 20, 2011 Share #17 Posted August 20, 2011 so Amtrak crews will be operating M8s eventually whoever runs Shore Line East will be running M8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted August 26, 2011 Share #18 Posted August 26, 2011 whoever runs Shore Line East will be running M8s Yes its Amtrak crews east of New Haven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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