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There are nine NOVAs left at Newton Ave: 1202, 1203, 1204, 1207, 1263, 1284, 1285, 1289, 1577.

 

Add 5639 and 5640 to the NABI roster.

 

Please don't quote long blocks of text unnecessarily.

 

Lance.

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I'm Lance.

 

I edited those two posts because the list you two (MarkD329, The TransitMan) quoted was very long. It makes scrolling through these pages a whole lot longer.

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I'm Lance.

 

I edited those two posts because the list you two (MarkD329, The TransitMan) quoted was very long. It makes scrolling through these pages a whole lot longer.

 

You are telling me that and you RE-posted the roster to make TWO changes as I update almost every week. Whatever, it's done. NEW year, NEW attitude...let's move on.

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So I guess you're updating the roster now? I guess my job is done then. At least make your changes in a different color.

 

Please don't quote long blocks of text unnecessarily.

 

Lance.

 

Not neccessarily, I just added the NABIs I forgot to mention to Orange Garage.

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Folks, as of today, Wednesday, 1/4/12, I will be taking over the Bus Roster.

 

Therefore, any news, please place them here and I will update the list, but it will be done twice a month. I do have college and while I love being a bus fan and buff, it's not really helping me with my associates classes.

 

TheTransitman, this was always your baby and it still is. Anytime you want to jump in and help out, you got the THUMBS UP from me. Any font, color, or style that you want, go for it. I don't care.

 

And until further notice, only MYSELF and TheTransitMan is allowed to edit the roster unless someone notifies me first.

 

The new Roster will be up by Friday so any changes, please document them here before hand. Thank you for your attention.

 

- SirJokaPlaya

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This is the Current Roster, as of Saturday, January 7th, 2012.

Reminder that this roster may only be changed by myself, TheTransitMan, or Pablo M 201 (I added you, Pablo). No other changes may be made unless I am consulted first.

 

Big Tree Garage

Total Buses: 73

 

Routes: 13 (split – Hilton), 30, 39, 40, 76, 78, 99

 

2004 Neoplan USA AN459A: 9505-9527

2010-2013 NABI 416.15: 5742-5756, 5758, 5761-5796

 

 

Egg Harbor Garage

Total Buses: 108

 

Routes: 313 (split - Washington Twp), 315 (split - Washington Twp), 316 (split – Newton Av, Washington Township), 319 (split - Meadowlands), 501, 502, 503, 504, 505, 507, 508, 509, 552, 553, 559

 

1999 NovaBus RTS-06: 1266-1267, 1286, 1487-1497, 1499-1503, 1505-1506

1999 NovaBus RTS-06 (30 Ft): 2501-2525

2000 MCI 102-DLW3SS Cruiser: 7501

2000 NovaBus RTS-06: 1563-1564, 1571-1574

2000 NovaBus RTS-06 (30 Ft): 2558, 2560

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7505-7508, 7606, 7608, 7783-7784, 7801

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7401-7418, 8011-8012, 8014-8015, 8033, 8278-8284

2007 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 7177, 7179-7187

 

NOTE: MCI D4500 Cruiser #7177, #7179-7187 and #7783-7784 have a restroom.

 

 

Fairview Garage

Total Buses: 109

 

Routes: 153, 154, 156, 158, 159, 321 (split - Howell), 351 (split – Meadowlands, Community Coach)

 

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7531-7541, 7609-7610, 7785, 7789-7800

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7827, 7873, 7927, 7930, 7998-7999

2003 Neoplan USA AN459A: 9501-9503

2003 Neoplan USA AN459A Suburban: 9601

2004 Neoplan USA AN459A: 9504

2004 Neoplan USA AN459A Suburban: 9602-9636

2009 NABI 416.15 Suburban: 5202-5225, 5227-5229, 5231-5240

 

NOTE: MCI D4000 Cruiser #7531-7541, #7785 and #7789-7800 have a restroom.

 

 

Greenville Garage

Total Buses: 101

 

Routes: 6, 43, 80, 81, 87, 120, 126 (split - Meadowlands, Ironbound)

 

2009 NABI 416.15 Suburban: 5241-5248, 5250-5277, 5384-5405

2010-2013 NABI 416.15: 5699-5741

 

 

Hamilton Township Garage

Total Buses: 67

 

Routes: 600, 601, 602, 603, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608, 609, 610, 611, 612, 613, 619

 

2010-2013 NABI 416.15: 5501-5567

 

 

Hilton Garage

Total Buses: 181

 

Routes: 1, 13 (split - Big Tree), 25, 26, 27 (split - Orange), 37, 42, 52, 70, 90, 107, 108

 

GO routes: 25

 

1999 NovaBus RTS-06: 1418-1419, 1425-1436, 1437, 1438-1454, 1456-1480, 1482-1486

2000 NovaBus RTS-06: 1514

2001 NovaBus RTS-06 Suburban: 1583-1587

2004 Neoplan USA AN459A: 9528-9549

2009 NABI 416.15 Suburban: 5249, 5303, 5406-5411

2010 NABI 416.15 Suburban: 5412-5430

2010-2013 NABI 416.15: 5799-5851

 

 

Howell Garage

Total Buses: 203

 

Routes: 63, 64, 67, 68, 128 (split - Meadowlands, Fairview), 130, 131, 132, 133, 135, 136 (split – {color=blue]Academy[/color]), 137, 138, 139 (split – Academy, Meadowlands), 307, 308 (split - Ironbound, Meadowlands), 321 (split - Fairview)

 

1998 MCI 102-DWA3 CNG Cruiser: 7001-7002

1999 MCI 102-DWA3 CNG Cruiser: 7003-7050

2000 MCI 102-DWA3 CNG Cruiser: 7051-7077

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7511

2001 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8201-8204

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7928-7929, 7931-7932, 7937-7939

2002 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 7419, 7422, 7442, 7453-7465, 8206, 8208-8229, 8309

2003 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 7466-7483, 8200, 8246-8261

2006 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 9021-9043

2008 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 7101-7118

 

 

Ironbound Garage

Total Buses: 169

 

Routes: 56, 57, 58, 59, 62, 65, 66, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 126 (split - Greenville, Meadowlands), 308, (split - Howell, Meadowlands), 353 (split – Meadowlands, Oradell, Community Coach)

 

2000 MCI 102-DLW3SS Cruiser: 7502-7503

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7504, 7509-7510, 7757-7760, 7771-7774, 8558-8559

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7489, 7673, 7734-7736, 7812-7821, 7934-7936, 8039-8108, 8285, 8287

2002 MCI D4000 Hybrid Cruiser: 4004-4005

2003 MCI D4000 Hybrid Cruiser: 4006-4007

2010-2013 NABI 416.15: 5591-5630, 5639-5658

 

 

Market Street Garage

Total Buses: 137

 

Routes: 72, 74, 145, 148, 160, 164 (split - Oradell), 171, 175, 178, 182, 186, 703, 704, 712, 770

 

1999 NovaBus RTS-06: 1292-1311, 1400

2001 NovaBus RTS-06 Suburban: 1580-1582, 1588-1589

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7810-7811, 7922-7924, 7941-7980, 8109-8112

2010 NABI 416.15 Suburban: 5377, 5379, 5431-5450

2010-2013 NABI 416.15: 5659-5698

 

 

Meadowlands Garage

Total Buses: 201

 

Routes: 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 89, 121, 122 (split - Wayne), 123, 124, 125, 126 (split - Greenville, Ironbound), 127, 128 (split - Howell), 129, 139 (split - Academy, Howell), 166 (split - Oradell), 167 (split - Oradell), 177 (split - Oradell), 181, 188, 190 (split - Wayne), 308 (split - Howell, Ironbound), 319 (split - Egg Harbor), 320, 329, 351 (split – Fairview, Community Coach), 353 (split – Ironbound, Oradell, Community Coach)

 

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7762-7764, 7766-7768, 7775-7782, 7786-7788, 7981-7991

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7490-7491, 7663, 7981-7991

2002 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 7420-7421, 7423-7441, 7443-7446, 8230-8245, 8316

2003 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7492-7493, 7674-7683

2003 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8262-8265

2006 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 9044-9053

2007 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 7121-7136, 7167-7176, 7178

2009 NABI 416.15 Suburban: 5278-5302, 5304-5307

2010-2013 NABI 416.15: 5852-5906

 

 

NOTE: MCI D4500 Cruiser #7167-7176, #7178 and MCI D4000 Cruiser #7786-7788 have a restroom.

 

 

Morris Garage

Total Buses: 17

 

Routes: 871, 872, 873, 874, 875, 880

 

1999 NovaBus RTS-06 (30 Ft): 2569-2570, 2572-2573, 2576, 2579-2580

2000 NovaBus RTS-06 (30 Ft): 2533-2536, 2559, 2561-2562, 2566-2568

 

 

 

Newton Avenue Garage

Total Buses: 122

 

Routes: 316 (split – Egg Harbor, Washington Township), 317, 318, 404, 405, 407, 409, 413, 419, 450, 451, 452, 453, 455, 457, 460 (split – Washington Township)

 

1999 NovaBus RTS-06: 1132-1137, 1201-1209, 1248-1252, 1263, 1265, 1284-1285, 1287-1291, 1577

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7543-7563, 7565-7566, 7611

2001 NovaBus RTS-06 Suburban: 1577-1578

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7933, 8025-8029

2009 NABI 416.15 Suburban: 5368-5376, 5378, 5380-5383

2010-2013 NABI 416.15: 5568-5590, 5639-5640, 5797-5798, 5907-5918, 5924-5935

 

 

Oradell Garage

Total Buses: 214

 

Routes: 144, 155, 157, 162, 163, 164 (split - Market Street), 165, 166 (split - Meadowlands), 167 (split - Meadowlands), 168, 177 (split - Meadowlands), 353 (split – Ironbound, Meadowlands, Community Coach)

 

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7567-7605, 7607, 7612-7617, 7756, 7765, 7769-7770

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7484-7488, 7687-7733, 7737-7755, 7822-7826, 7828-7872, 7874-7883, 7926, 7992-7997, 8289-8291, 8971-8990

 

 

Orange Garage

Total Buses: 228

 

Routes: 5, 11, 21, 27 (split - Hilton), 28, 29, 34, 41, 71, 73, 79, 92, 93, 94, 96, 97

 

GO routes: 28

 

1995 NovaBus RTS-06: 2602-2605, 2614, 2620, 2645, 2656, 2661, 2663-2664, 2678, 2690, 2694-2723, 2725-2731, 2733-2735, 2737-2757, 2774

1996 NovaBus RTS-06: 2775

1999 NovaBus RTS-06: 1268-1269, 1312-1399, 1401-1417, 1420-1424, 1455, 1481, 1498, 1504

2000 NovaBus RTS-06: 1534

2001 NovaBus RTS-06 Suburban: 1579

2009 NABI 416.15 Suburban: 5226, 5308-5322

2010-2013 NABI 416.15: 5936-5938, 5940, 5942-5944, 5947, 5949, 5951, 5952, 5959, 5962, 5966, 5969-5971, 5977, 5980

 

 

Washington Township Garage

Total Buses: 116

 

Routes: 313 (split - Egg Harbor), 315 (split - Egg Harbor), 316 (split - Egg Harbor, Newton Av), 400, 401, 402, 403, 406, 408, 410, 412, 459, 460 (split – Newton Av), 463, 551, 554

 

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7512-7530, 7542, 7564

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7618, 8000-8010, 8013, 8016-8024, 8030-8032, 8034-8038, 8269-8277, 8286, 8288

2003 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8850-8852

2003 MCI D4000N Cruiser: 7802-7805

2008 NABI 416.15 Suburban: 5201

2009 NABI 416.15 Suburban: 5230, 5323-5367

 

 

Wayne Garage

Total Buses: 195

 

Routes: 75, 122 (split - Meadowlands), 151, 161, 190 (split - Meadowlands), 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 324

 

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7761

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 7619-7662, 7664-7672, 7884-7921, 7925

2002 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 7447-7452, 8205, 8207, 8292-8308, 8310-8315, 8317-8322

2003 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8853-8855

2003 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8266-8268, 8961-8968

2006 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 9000-9020

2007 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 7137-7166

 

 

 

 

New Jersey Private Operators (Contracted Routes)

 

Academy Bus Company, Inc. /Academy Express LLC.

Total Buses: 236

 

Routes: 2, 22, 23, 88, 119, 136 (split – Howell), 139 (split – Howell, Meadowlands), 300 (split – Suburban Trails), 801, 802, 803, 804, 805, 810, 811, 813, 814, 815, 817, 818, 819, 822, Asbury Park via Lincroft, IKEA Shuttle, Jackson, Parkway Express, Point Pleasant via Lincroft, Route 9, Sayreville, Washington, Willingboro

 

1998 NovaBus RTS-06: 1001, 1026*

1999 NovaBus RTS-06: 1003-1017, 1019-1025, 1027-1035*, 1122-1131, 1138-1147, 1185-1200, 1216-1226, 1279-1283

2000 NovaBus RTS-06: 1529, 1531, 1559, 1568-1570, 1575-1576

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8505-8506, 8563-8612

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8613-8626

2003 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8632-8686, 8856-8876

2003 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8627-8631, 8806-8807, 8831-8835, 8921-8950

2011 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8951-8952

 

MCI D4500 Cruiser #8627-8631 and MCI D4500 Cruiser #8921-8950 have a restroom.

 

 

Broadway IBOA

Total Buses: 10

 

Routes: Broadway Avenue

 

2000 NovaBus RTS-06: 1532-1533, 1535-1536

2000 NovaBus RTS-06 (30 Ft): 2537-2539, 2563-2565

 

 

Carefree Bus Lines, Inc.

Total Buses: 2

 

Routes: Bloomfield Commuter

 

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8452-8453

 

MCI D4000 Cruiser #8453 has a restroom.

 

 

Coach USA – Elizabeth Garage (Olympia Trails/Orange-Newark-Elizabeth Bus/ Red & Tan Hudson County)

Total Buses: 139

 

Routes: 10, 24, 31, 44, 305, 978, 979, 981, Newark Airport Express

 

1999 NovaBus RTS-06: 1036-1105

2000 NovaBus RTS-06: 1509-1512, 1516-1522, 1537, 1540-1549, 1560-1562, 1565-1567

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8519-8523

2002 BlueBird TransShuttle CS: 606-609, 616-617

2003 El Dorado Escort FE: 421-424, 429

2010-2013 NABI 416.15: 5631-5638

 

 

Coach USA – Mahwah Garage (Short Line)

Total Buses: 18

 

Routes: 17RG, 17SF, 17WY, 17US, 17x, M59, W59

 

Limited Service routes: 17RG, 17US

 

2003 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8788-8805

 

 

Coach USA – New Brunswick Garage (Suburban)

Total Buses: 67

 

Routes: 100, 300 (split – Academy), 400, 500, 600, 884, 980, 986, Dunellen Local

 

2000-2007 Goshen Minibus Model GCII: 304, 312, 709-714

2000 NovaBus RTS-06 (30 Ft): 2555-2557

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8504, 8507-8513

2002 Bluebird TransShuttle CS: 601-604

2003 El Dorado Escort FE: 410, 428

2003 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8782, 8784, 8839, 8846-8849, 8881

2003 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8808-8830, 8890-8915

 

 

Coach USA – Paramus Garage (Community Coach)

Total Buses: 103

 

Routes: 10, 77, 351 (split – Fairview, Meadowlands), 353 (split - Ironbound, Meadowlands, Oradell), 702, 705, 707, 709, 722, 744, 746, 748, 751, 752, 753, 755, 756, 758, 762, 772, 780

 

1995 Goshen Minibus Model GCII: 208

1999 NovaBus RTS-06: 1108-1111, 1148-1184, 1210-1213, 1215, 1245-1247, 1253-1254, 1270-1278, 1538

2000 NovaBus RTS-06 (30 Ft): 2540-2542, 2547-2554

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8514-8518

2002 Bluebird TransShuttle CS: 600, 610-614

2003 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8775-8780, 8785-8786

2003 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8765-8774

 

 

Coach USA – Westwood Garage (Rockland Coaches)

Total Buses: 111

 

Routes: 9, 9A, 9AT, 9T, 9W, 11A, 11AT, 11C, 11T, 14, 14K, 14ET, 20, 20T, 21T, 25, 45, 45A, 45E, 46, 47, 48, 49, 84, 84L

 

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8454-8497, 8499-8503

2003 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8554-8555, 8781, 8783, 8787, 8836-8838, 8840-8845, 8877-8880, 8882-8889, 8916-8920

2003 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8524-8553

 

 

DeCamp Bus Lines

Total Buses: 50

 

Routes: 32, 33, 44, 66, 88, 99

 

Limited Service routes: 32, 99

 

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8401-8435

2003 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8436-8450

 

 

Delaware River Coach Lines, Inc.

Total Buses: 4

 

Routes: Easton-Phillipsburg Line

 

2007 Goshen Minibus Model GCII: 704-708

 

 

First Student

Total Buses: 8

 

Routes: 878, 879

 

2000-2007 Goshen Minibus Model GCII: 314, 700-704

2000 NovaBus RTS-06 (30 Ft): 2531

2002 Bluebird TransShuttle CS: 605

 

 

Lakeland Bus Lines

Total Buses: 52

 

Routes: 46, 78, 80

 

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8704-8714

2002 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8715-8745, 8755-8759

2002 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8760-8764

 

 

Lion Bus Corporation of New Jersey

Total Buses: 3

 

Routes: Cape May-Lewes Ferry Shuttle (Seasonal)

 

1994 Flxible Metro-D 40102: 1767, 1777, 1780

 

 

Montgomery & Westside IBOA

Total Buses: 31

 

Routes: 4, 440 Shopper, Bergen Avenue, Montgomery & Westside, Society Hill

 

1999 NovaBus RTS-06: 1227-1229

1999 NovaBus RTS-06 (30 Ft): 2526-2529

2000 NovaBus RTS-06: 1230-1239, 1550-1555

2010-2013 NABI 416.15: 5757, 5759-5760, 5919-5923

 

 

Salem County Transit

Total Buses: 6

 

Routes: 468

 

1999-2000 NovaBus RTS-06: 1264

2000 NovaBus RTS-06: 1513, 1515, 1556-1558

 

 

Trans-Bridge Lines Inc.

Total Buses: 7

 

Routes: 890, 891

 

2001 MCI D4000 Cruiser: 8451, 8556-8557, 8703

2003 MCI D4500 Cruiser: 8560-8562

 

MCI D4000 Cruiser #8451, #8556-8557 and MCI D4500 Cruiser #8560-8562 have a restroom.

 

 

Veolia Transportation

Total Buses: 19

 

Routes: 830, 831, 832, 833, 834, 835, 836, 837

 

1999 NovaBus RTS-06: 1002, 1106-1107, 1112-1121, 1262, 1507

2000 NovaBus RTS-06 (30 Ft): 2543-2546

 

 

UPDATES:

Market Street will now do the 186. Oradell will no longer operate the 186.

Coach USA has transferred 1538 from Elizabeth to Community Coach.

Newton Avenue's 5377 & 5379 has been transferred to Market Street.

Orange now has New NABI 5980.

 

Any changes, please place them here.

 

Shoutouts to Jayden 973, Majestic412, TheTransitMan, and Mikan Wilhelm for their reports.

 

Project for you guys if possible. If someone get an ACCURATE report on what bus numbers is at Academy Hoboken, so we can split the two Academy divisions apart and have a accurate count on who has what, that would rock.

 

Happy New Year and Thanks. Once again, any editing of this is forbidden unless its is done by either Pablo 201, TheTransitMan, or myself.

 

- SirJokaPlaya

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Agreed!!! It makes no sense when most of those Market Street NOVAs that were transferred to Camden last year gone!!! It just makes no sense when the 5900s were just delivered two months ago, how do they deliver new buses to a garage and they're still short?? Its a shame that South Jersey ( Newton Ave & Washington Twp) always suffers to please North Jersey! So now BOTH garages are short buses now, SMDH!!!

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553 is correct. This might sound like a bash from me but it's more of a fact than opinion statement. If there were more urban-ly grouped cities as Newark, Jersey City, New York City, Paterson, and others more closely together as they are in North Jersey than South Jersey, then the discussion of more buses in South Jersey would have more merit. Now, I'm not saying that you guys don't need more buses since you guys have problems too with overcrowding and such. It's amazing why you guys don't have articulated buses down south. If there was more people coming together with signatures and other forms to let NJT officials know what's really going on down there, NJT might (MIGHT) consider adding more buses and equipment there. That would also spark new jobs, but again, there has to be a proof of the need of added equipment since that is a investment on it's own adding a new garage, hiring new staff, training them, getting new buses, hiring new mechanics, bus cleaners, hiring people to dig the underground for the fuel tanks, and a lot of other legalities.

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553 is correct. This might sound like a bash from me but it's more of a fact than opinion statement. If there were more urban-ly grouped cities as Newark, Jersey City, New York City, Paterson, and others more closely together as they are in North Jersey than South Jersey, then the discussion of more buses in South Jersey would have more merit. Now, I'm not saying that you guys don't need more buses since you guys have problems too with overcrowding and such. It's amazing why you guys don't have articulated buses down south. If there was more people coming together with signatures and other forms to let NJT officials know what's really going on down there, NJT might (MIGHT) consider adding more buses and equipment there. That would also spark new jobs, but again, there has to be a proof of the need of added equipment since that is a investment on it's own adding a new garage, hiring new staff, training them, getting new buses, hiring new mechanics, bus cleaners, hiring people to dig the underground for the fuel tanks, and a lot of other legalities.

 

There's another issue that is not discussed up in the power offices in Newark, that is there is a serious need for revision of the South Jersey bus system. The buses do not go to where the jobs are and it is a major hassle to ge there because in most cases, you have to go to Camden to transfer. We need more bus routes to start or pass through PATCO stations. We also need more feeder bus service at RiverLINE stations to connect the route to job sites along I-295. The last few years have seen major cutbacks on runs to Philadelphia, and where did those runs go? They just disappeared, they were'nt reallocated to better intrastate service, or new routes serving new areas. Those runs were simply cut out.

 

Another problem is that service is being wasted for no reason at all. What service I'm talking about? It's the 409/419 routes whose ridership was considerably altered with the operation of the RiverLINE. The 419 buses carries NOBODY past Camden, and the 409 buses run empty between Burlington and Trenton. What can be done? Restructure the 452, that will take care of the 419's Camden ridership, and split the 409 in to two routes: Philly-Roebling [409], and Trenton-Willingboro[623], with the 418 handling service when the RiverLINE is not operating.

 

In the end, NJT is not being smart about their regions. they sacrifice the Southern Division for the North, not realizing the needs of the riders in this region.

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