Wallyhorse Posted June 12, 2012 Share #1051 Posted June 12, 2012 Do you REALLY think that would be more practical than just sending the to Jay St???? Or do you just wish you could see an at Coney Island... Since I have not had time to be on here much for a few days, this is my first chance to respond: The going to Coney Island in this scenario is because I'm assuming this is on a weekday, and I don't want to be backing up the at Jay Street. Sending the express via Park Slope keeps the from being disrupted, and with the also out in the scenario this came from (I had that ONLY going to Metropolitan Avenue), the plays the role of the , at least to Bergen Street and can do more of that by being shortened to Church Avenue while the replaces it to Coney Island, also having it so the train running local is the one terminating at Church while the one operating express is the one going to Coney Island. The in my scenario going to Broadway Junction via the has to do with diverting passengers looking for Broadway Junction and points east (Far Rockaway and Lefferts) off the and reducing overcrowding on any shuttle buses that are needed between Jay Street and Broadway Junction. The can terminate on the platform there and help cut down on problems elsewhere in such a scenario. When I think out these scenarios, I'm looking at how to best work around problems that can arise. This has zero to do with foaming and everything to do with wanting to keep everything running as best possible. Anyway, NEXT:Switches between the express and local tracks at Queens Plaza are unusable. In other words, the M can't get between the 53 St tunnel and the Queens Blvd local tracks. Remember, this is rush hour on the QBL that we're talking about. You can't have the M run express with the E/F. Rather easy: via 63rd Street between 36th Street Queens and 47th-50th Manhattan. For Queens Plaza, take the train, from there for Court Square, transfer to the OR take the or to Roosevelt Avenue and change there to the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted June 12, 2012 Share #1052 Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) NEXT Due to 2 Av Subway construction, work trains and tunnel drills need to be placed in certain places along other lines. Seeing that it is late night, now is the best time to do so. 125 St , 5 Av , and Grand St are closed and impassible. Reroute accordingly. TIME Late Night ROUTES via Lexington Av Local Dyre Av Shuttle Normal Service No Service Stops at DeKalb Av via Tunnel Normal Service Normal Service Edited June 12, 2012 by trainguy97 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share #1053 Posted June 12, 2012 NEXT Due to 2 Av Subway construction, work trains and tunnel drills need to be placed in certain places along other lines. Seeing that it is late night, now is the best time to do so. 125 St 4 6, 5 Av N , and Grand St D are closed and impassible. Reroute accordingly. Extended to New Lots to help no service between 42 Street and 149 St-GC (Turns on middle track terminates at 3rd Avenue at 138 St < shuttle bus service runs between Times Square, 125 St , and 149 St-GC via Lexington Avenue.> no service between 57 St and Queensboro Plaza use the or instead 2 Sections: Norwood - 2 Avenue and Pacific Street - CI NEXT: 6 PM Weekday A terrorist threat requires the following stations to be closed: Queensboro Plaza Queens Plaza Court Street 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 12, 2012 Share #1054 Posted June 12, 2012 terminate at Lexington Av/59 St terminates at 57 St/7 Av runs in two sections; Main St - 61 St/Woodside, Times Sq - Hunters Point Av (uses crossover north of station to relay) Metropolitan Av - Essex St via 63 St, local in Queens Church Av - 21 St; trains relay on middle track between 21 St and Court Sq 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted June 12, 2012 Share #1055 Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) NEXT: 6 PM Weekday A terrorist threat requires the following stations to be closed: Queensboro Plaza Queens Plaza Court Street : No local trains between 74th St-Broadway & Times Sq. Special single Shuttle train operates on express track between 61st St-Woodside and Junction Blvd only. : Runs in 2 sections. 1. Between Jamaica Center and Kew Garden. 2. Between Lexington Av-53rd St and World Trade Center. : No trains between 21st St-Queensbridge and Hillside Av-179th St. : Trains terminate at 21st St-Van Alst. : No trains between Forest Hills and Delancey-Essex Sts. Rerouted on to Chambers/Broad Sts. : Trains run in 2 sections. 1. Between Astoria-Ditmars Blvd and 39th Av. 2. Between Lexington Av-59th St and Coney Island. : Trains terminate at Times Sq. : Trains terminate at 57th St-7th Av. Free shuttle bus operates as follows. Hillside Av Shuttle Bus operates between Jamaica-179th St and Jamaica Center via Brianwood/Van Wyck and Jamaica-Van Wyck Station. Queens Blvd shuttle bus operates between Kew Garden and 61st St-Woodside stopping at 69th St. Flushing shuttle bus operates between 74th St-Broadway and Grand Central serving Queens Plaza, Court Sq , 21st St and Grand Central. Long Island Railroad will be crossing honor MetroCard at Penn Station, Hunters Point, Long Island City, Woodside, Jamaica, Kew Garden, Forest Hill, Flushing, Mets-Willets Point. During this time, Port Washington Branch will be stopping at Mets-Willets Point. Astoria Shuttle Bus/Van service between 39th Av and 21st St-Queensbridge. Shuttle Buses will be helped by MTA Bus, NYCT, NICE, and some Charter Buses, RIOC Bus will be provided. During this time, Roosevelt Island Tramway operates 2 cabins until further notice. Also in addition, RIOC will also offer free shuttle bus between Roosevelt Island and 21st St-Queensbridge via 39th Av, Queens Plaza, Queensboro Plaza, and Court Sq, Hunters Point Av/21st St and Vernon Blvd-Jackson Edited June 12, 2012 by FamousNYLover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted June 13, 2012 Share #1056 Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) terminates at 57th St-7 Av runs local in Manhattan and via Montague (to make up for loss of R) and trains terminate at Lexington Av-59th St runs between 36th Street (Brooklyn) or Atlantic Ave (if possible) and 95th St-Bay Ridge via between Roosevelt Ave and W 4 St (if tph isn't too much of an issue) Runs between 61 St & Flushing-Main St terminates at 21 St runs between Essex and Metropolitan Shuttle buses run (free of charge, of course): between Vernon-Jackson and Queensboro Plaza between Queensboro Plaza and Astoria-Ditmars between Queensboro Plaza and 61 St-Woodside Edited June 13, 2012 by MTAFanBoy512 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted June 13, 2012 Share #1057 Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) 6 PM WeekdayA terrorist threat requires the following stations to be closed: Queensboro Plaza N/Q/7 Queens Plaza E/M/R Court Street E/G/M/7 How I would handle it: runs in two sections: Ditmars Boulevard-39th Avenue (Shuttle Bus between Ditmars Boulevard and 21st-Queensbridge Plaza) Lexington Avenue-60th Street and Coney Island (via tunnel in Manhattan) Most trains terminate at 57th Street-7th Avenue, though select trains are re-routed to Jamaica Center, Queens via 63rd Street to replace the in Queens. operates Whitehall Street-95th street Operates 53rd Street-Lexington Avenue-World Trade Center ONLY operates normal service is extended to Jamaica Center to replace the in Queens and runs via the between 47th-50th and 36th Street, where it runs normal route to 71st-Continental before continuing to Jamaica Center as a local. runs local to 74th Street-Broadway only. LIMITED express trains operate 61st-Woodside-Junction Boulevard or Mets-Willets Point Flushing shuttle bus operates between 74th St-Broadway and Grand Central making all stops in Queens and also serving Queens Plaza, Court Square, Lexington Avenue-60th Street and Grand Central. LIRR Port Washington Branch stops at Mets-Willets Point and LIRR cross-honors ALL Metro Cards on trains between Penn Station AND the Atlantic Terminal in Brooklyn and ALL stops within the city limits except those on Far Rockaway (since the LIRR line there goes into Nassau County before re-entering the city to get there). Next: An issue on the tracks past Broadway Junction, but not affecting the Atlantic Avenue station or the tracks leading to the flyover makes those tracks unusable, however, those trains CAN use the flyover to access the Broadway-Brooklyn line. Edited June 13, 2012 by Wallyhorse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share #1058 Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Next: An issue on the tracks past Broadway Junction, but not affecting the Atlantic Avenue station or the tracks leading to the flyover makes those tracks unusable, however, those trains CAN use the flyover to access the Broadway-Brooklyn line. in two sections: Chambers St - Canarsie and 8 avenue to Myrtle-Wyckoff. Shuttle bus service is provided between Bway Jct and Myrtle-Wyckoff. Edited June 13, 2012 by VWM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 14, 2012 Share #1059 Posted June 14, 2012 Next: An falls from the Rockaway Blvd Bridge onto Dead end 97 street. A fire started since the fuel exploded. The branches are affected since the fire is now in both levels. Also a mysteriously disappears from 149 to 135 street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted June 14, 2012 Share #1060 Posted June 14, 2012 Next: An falls from the Rockaway Blvd Bridge onto Dead end 97 street. A fire started since the fuel exploded. The branches are affected since the fire is now in both levels. Also a mysteriously disappears from 149 to 135 street. So you mean no trains can pass between 135th and 149th? runs via the line in Manhattan runs in two sections: 207th to 88th St/Boyd Av - JFK to Rockaway --- NEXT There is a stalled train at the BROOKLYN BOUND platform at DeKalb Av, so no trains may use that track. All other tracks are unaffected. Look carefully at the track map. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 14, 2012 Share #1061 Posted June 14, 2012 Brooklyn-bound trains run via the between 34 St and Dekalb Av. Brooklyn-bound trains run via the between Atlantic Av-Barclays and Coney Island, then via the to Brighton Beach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted June 14, 2012 Share #1062 Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) NEXTThere is a stalled train at the BROOKLYN BOUND platform at DeKalb Av, so no trains may use that track. All other tracks are unaffected. Look carefully at the track map. Runs in two sections: Between Bronx and Lower East Side-2 Avenue. Between Whitehall Street and Brooklyn, via the . Southbound trains run via Tunnel. Edited June 15, 2012 by TrainFanInfinity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1063 Posted June 15, 2012 Skips DeKalb Avenue. How would a train get from the bypass to the southbound Brighton? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1064 Posted June 15, 2012 How would a train get from the bypass to the southbound Brighton? Sorry about that, I fixed it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1065 Posted June 15, 2012 Runs in two sections: Between Bronx and Lower East Side-2 Avenue. Between Whitehall Street and Brooklyn, via the . Southbound trains run via Tunnel. Why Whitehall Street? That's taking Brighton riders and depositing them right at the tip of Manhattan, where the line doesn't even run, and forces them to transfer. You can just cut the back to 2nd Avenue, or if it were up to me I'd just suspend it. Anyways, since nobody else posted a scenario: NEXT The X switch on the tracks right north of Jay Street have malfunctioned and no trains may pass through those tracks. The other switches in that area and the outer tracks ( train) are unaffected. NO FOAMING. If you say remove a train from the transit museum, and deposit tons of people in the middle of an open museum from this, I will get high on LSD and eat your face until the cops shoot me dead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1066 Posted June 15, 2012 The X switch on the tracks right north of Jay Street have malfunctioned and no trains may pass through those tracks. The other switches in that area and the outer tracks ( train) are unaffected. NO FOAMING. If you say remove a train from the transit museum, and deposit tons of people in the middle of an open museum from this, I will get high on LSD and eat your face until the cops shoot me dead. That's a toughie. 1. Run the between 205th Street and Chambers Street. 2. Run the between Utica Avenue and Leffers and the Rockaways. 3. Extend the to Euclid. 4. Service suspended between Chambers Street and Utica Avenue. For some service to Brooklyn, take the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1067 Posted June 15, 2012 Suspended. Trains run in two sections: ......207 St to Chambers St. ......Jay St (Manhattan-bound track) to Queens, every 10 minutes. Jay St-bound trains run local between Euclid Av and Hoyt St. Queens-bound trains run local from Utica Av to Euclid Av. Additional service runs between B'way Junction and Queens. NEXT Because of a washout, the 8 Av line at 23 St must be taken out of service. Because this is a long-term service change, reroutes can be a bit more drastic than usual. However, NO Transit Museum use, wrong-side Nassau St use, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1068 Posted June 15, 2012 Suspended. Trains run in two sections: ......207 St to Chambers St. ......Jay St (Manhattan-bound track) to Queens, every 10 minutes. Jay St-bound trains run local between Euclid Av and Hoyt St. Queens-bound trains run local from Utica Av to Euclid Av. Additional service runs between B'way Junction and Queens. NEXT Because of a washout, the 8 Av line at 23 St must be taken out of service. Because this is a long-term service change, reroutes can be a bit more drastic than usual. However, NO Transit Museum use, wrong-side Nassau St use, etc. How would the train terminate at Jay Street? There's no switches for it to switch to the opposite track. --- Anyways, because you said long term: Service Change Map runs via 6th Avenue between Columbus Circle and West 4th Street. Local in Manhattan south of Columbus Circle. runs in two sections: between 168th Street and Penn Station; between Chambers Street and Euclid Avenue. runs between Jamaica Center and Penn Station. trains use express tracks at 42nd Street and 34th Street ------- Alternate service: to 42nd Street: - From uptown: Transfer at Columbus Circle for a C train - From downtown: Transfer at 34th Street for an N/Q/R train to Times Square and walk a block to 34th Street: - From uptown: Transfer at Columbus Circle for a C train - From downtown: Transfer at Fulton Street for a 2/3 train to 34th Street and walk a block to 23rd Street: - From uptown: Transfer at Columbus Circle for a 1 train and walk a block - From downtown: Transfer at Fulton Street for a 2/3 train to 14th Street, transfer to a 1 train to 23rd Street and walk a block to 23rd Street: 1. Walk from 34th Street 2. Transfer at 5th Avenue for an M train to 23rd Street, walk 2 blocks to 14th Street: Transfer at 14th Street/6th Avenue for an L train to W 4th Street, Spring St, Canal St, and World Trade Center: Transfer at 7th Avenue for an A train Service levels on the will be adjusted as to prevent delays. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1069 Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) How would the train terminate at Jay Street? There's no switches for it to switch to the opposite track. Arrive at Jay St, reverse, wrong-rail/single-track to Hoyt St, keep wrong-railing (but without getting in the way of Jay St-bound trains) to the stub track at Lafayette Av, switch to Queens-bound express track, resume service. Since you didn't post a scenario, NEXT Because of a washout, the Broadway Line is out of service at 23 St. Note that you must have all three Broadway services reach Midtown, and all lines in the outer boros must maintain the same level of service. Since this is a long-term change, you may be liberal with service changes. Use 6 and 8 Av to their full potentials. Edited June 15, 2012 by NX Express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1070 Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) 1. trains run in two sections: i) Ditmars Blvd to 34th Street. ii) 34th Street (6th Avenue) to Coney Island. * 2. trains run in two sections: i) Forest Hills to 57th Street-7th Avenue. ii) 34th Street (6th Avenue) to Bay Ridge. * 3. trains run from Forest Hills, run local in Queens, and on the 6th Avenue line to Brighton Beach via Brighton Express. * 4. train is suspended. 5. trains run in two sections: i) 205th Street to 2nd Avenue (local) via 8th Avenue line. ii) Whitehall Street to Coney Island via West End. * 6. trains run from Metropolitan Avenue to Coney Island via Brighton Local. *No service on Broadway line from 34th Street to Whitehall Street. Edited June 15, 2012 by GojiMet86 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1071 Posted June 15, 2012 Because of a washout, the 8 Av line at 23 St must be taken out of service. Because this is a long-term service change, reroutes can be a bit more drastic than usual. However, NO Transit Museum use, wrong-side Nassau St use, etc. I would think for a long-term outage, they would use one of the TM tracks to turn local trains on the Fulton Street line in Brooklyn in the following manner: Such trains come in on the outer (what would be local) track at Hoyt-Schermhorn from the east/south (west/northbound track). Those trains would be fumugated there, then sent to the TM station where they would be turned around quickly and come back on the east/southbound outer track. This would at least keep service on that stretch of the line as normal as possible. That said, NOT using the Transit Museum, here goes: runs via the 59th Street-West 4th and stops at Spring Street in place of the . For 50th Street-8th Avenue, take or to 7th Avenue and change to the there. also runs local in Brooklyn. is suspended terminates at 34th Street-Penn Station is re-routed after 47-50th via the and then replaces the to 168th Street all times except late nights, when the runs its regular shuttle. is extended to 71st-Continental to replace the in Queens at all times. Extra service runs between Broadway Junction and Broad Street. Expect delays on the , and trains due to all three lines having to use the local track on the 6th Avenue level at West 4th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1072 Posted June 15, 2012 is re-routed after 47-50th via the and then replaces the to 168th Street all times except late nights, when the runs its regular shuttle. How about just cutting the back to Essex St, running the local in Queens, and running the local on CPW. CPW riders are going to see an train and get so confused that they won't get on. Those people might not even know where the regular train goes, let alone this weird "re-routed" . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1073 Posted June 15, 2012 A lot of washouts at 23rd Street, I see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share #1074 Posted June 15, 2012 NO FOAMING. If you say remove a train from the transit museum, and deposit tons of people in the middle of an open museum from this, I will get high on LSD and eat your face until the cops shoot me dead. I'm not going to solve this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1075 Posted June 15, 2012 NEXT: No trains can terminate at regular IND terminals, which are: 205 St Bedford Pk Blvd 207 St 168 St 145 St World Trade Center Church Av Euclid Av Court Sq Forest Hills-71 Av Jamaica-179 St As an additional challenge, no trains can terminate at 2 Av station. This is going to be hard. B) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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