VWM Posted November 23, 2011 Share #1 Posted November 23, 2011 why do :rvl: trains terminate @ Newark Penn but not NYPenn I don't know.. It's kind of annoying that you have to switch from a :nec: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted November 23, 2011 Share #2 Posted November 23, 2011 why do :rvl: trains terminate @ Newark Penn but not NYPennI don't know.. It's kind of annoying that you have to switch from a :nec: Diesel trains aren't allowed to travel into Penn Station, so they have to end at Newark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted November 23, 2011 Share #3 Posted November 23, 2011 It's kind of annoying that you have to switch from a :nec: heh, It's kind of annoying taking the :nec:, period.... lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 24, 2011 Share #4 Posted November 24, 2011 why do :rvl: trains terminate @ Newark Penn but not NYPennI don't know.. It's kind of annoying that you have to switch from a :nec: The :rvl: isn't electrified so it's unable to enter Penn heh, It's kind of annoying taking the :nec:, period.... lol... ugh tell me about it its a total ass of a train :nec: so many stops 800 buses don't even time properly with it sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs NJT459 Posted November 24, 2011 Share #5 Posted November 24, 2011 If the ARC Tunnel wasn't cancelled.... :rvl: trains would've used it, hence the ALP-45 DPs... Right now, even with ALP-45 DPs, Amtrak would not have room in their schedule to allow any :rvl: trains to continue to NYP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goten2255 Posted November 24, 2011 Share #6 Posted November 24, 2011 what about instead of penn station it could go into hoboken since diesel trains are allowed to go in there, maybe that can work out more i think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted November 24, 2011 Share #7 Posted November 24, 2011 what about instead of penn station it could go into hoboken since diesel trains are allowed to go in there, maybe that can work out more i think? :rvl: trains did go into Hoboken once, but idk if they still do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs NJT459 Posted November 24, 2011 Share #8 Posted November 24, 2011 :rvl: trains did go into Hoboken once, but idk if they still do. Only one train still does weekday mornings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted November 26, 2011 Share #9 Posted November 26, 2011 what about instead of penn station it could go into hoboken since diesel trains are allowed to go in there, maybe that can work out more i think? Most people would either transfer to NEC trains or PATH at Newark to continue on to work in NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted December 4, 2011 Share #10 Posted December 4, 2011 Part of the Aldene Plan was to have dual mode equipment take passengers from the former CNJ main into new york penn. Prior to this, you had to transfer between PRR and CNJ trains at Elizabeth, where the 2 main lines crossed. Or you could go on to jersey city via bayonne and take a ferry from there. The "interim" was having CNJ/reading trains utilize newark penn as a transfer point for passengers going to and from new york penn. Believe it or not trains used to operate between philadelphia and jersey city, then newark penn, not using most of the NEC. The dual modes are finally here, but operation into NYP will be limited if it happens at all due to capacity limitations of the north river tunnels. Of any of the lines to benefit from dual mode service, i believe the RVL should be the first, followed by the coast line. That will likely happen in reverse though, as coast line trains all ready have slots in the schedule. Sadly not all of the decisions and outcomes that would and should have worked have been what happened over the years. The transition to dual mode operations on currently diesel only lines will likely take years and lots of very scarce funds. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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