Hypothetical Super-Express

[TheSubwayStation]

So, assuming a train can properly see any signals (hint, ATC) it *could* blaze through a station?

 

Definitely, but the slow speed rule (I thought it was 25 MPH, not 15) applies to all NYC subway stations.

[Tokkemon]

Can't there be exceptions to every rule?

[TheSubwayStation]

Can't there be exceptions to every rule?

 

My point is that there could be, and maybe there should be, but there aren't currently.

[TwoTimer]

And voluntarially complicate things by putting emphasis on T/O knowledge? Many break it already.

[VWM]

As Roadcruiser said, you'd need 6 tracks if you don't want horrible delays

[error46146]

Trains skip platforms all the time.

 

 

 

Would sets of switches at those key stations help to alleviate this conundrum?

 

 

It could, but then that would put a lot more work on the tower operators..

 

As said before the best way to implement super express service is to give the super express its own separate track.

[Tokkemon]

Except that's a whole bunch of infrastructure for just a rush-hour express.

 

I will be releasing my map soon so It might become clearer then.

[Brighton Express]

Let me preface by saying this is only conceptual and I'm not thinking of the MTA doing this in any near future. However, I'm making a fantasy map and I had an idea of super-express and express sharing the same tracks for a limited time during the day. Is this possible or would there be delays abound?

 

To illustrate more clearly let me introduce this abstract hypothetical situation:

 

 

Say I have stations A - G. Station A and G are "super-express" stations where all trains stop. Station D is an "express" station where express and local trains stop but super-express would skip. Stations B, C, E, and F are local where only local trains stop. My question is, could the Super-express and Express services share the same tracks? Local would be on its own local track.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

I have created routes like this for trainz, using DeKalb Av and 135 St Station models to work off of. I also have an Island 6T. I have the pictures on my computer, I'll upload them when I get back to the US.

[VWM]

Well, nothing prevents T/Os from breaking the rule, like this:

 

It seems pretty safe in this location, because it's a straight track and the T/O knows it's unoccupied by other trains. But that's not always the case.

 

 

That "woo, SHIT!" at the end of the video is hilarious.

 

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Don't some trains stop at 59 during the day

[KeystoneRegional]

The ONLY place a Super-Express will work is on the between Kew Gardens and 179th St. Then again, it's only skipping Parsons [which is an Express-ish Stop without Express Service now]. And don't know if there will be Express Service sprouting in action on that section anyways...

[Guest Lance]

That's not a super express. That's just a regular express. A good example of a super express would be the proposed Queens Blvd bypass. Just for the sake of illustration, let's use the current Queens Blvd line setup. The would be the regular express, stopping at Queens Plaza, Roosevelt Av, 71 Av and continuing normally to JCPA. The and would remain the locals making their usual stops and the would be the super express, only stopping at 21 St-Queensbridge and 71 Av before continuing to 179 St. That means 71 Av would be the transfer between the super express, normal express and the locals. Roosevelt Av would be the transfer point between only the normal express and locals.

 

@Q23 Central Term: Not that I'm aware of

[VWM]

Well, nothing prevents T/Os from breaking the rule, like this:

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It seems pretty safe in this location, because it's a straight track and the T/O knows it's unoccupied by other trains. But that's not always the case.

 

this r142 is signed up as a

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

That's not a super express. That's just a regular express. A good example of a super express would be the proposed Queens Blvd bypass. Just for the sake of illustration, let's use the current Queens Blvd line setup. The would be the regular express, stopping at Queens Plaza, Roosevelt Av, 71 Av and continuing normally to JCPA. The and would remain the locals making their usual stops and the would be the super express, only stopping at 21 St-Queensbridge and 71 Av before continuing to 179 St. That means 71 Av would be the transfer between the super express, normal express and the locals. Roosevelt Av would be the transfer point between only the normal express and locals.

 

@Q23 Central Term: Not that I'm aware of

 

 

I ask because I see TRAINS STOP AT 59 STREET, and I've seen a lot of that. I would like to take one if one stops at 59 to see if It stops at 50 or 66 street

[Threxx]

I ask because I see TRAINS STOP AT 59 STREET, and I've seen a lot of that. I would like to take one if one stops at 59 to see if It stops at 50 or 66 street

 

 

G.O's or unplanned service changes probably. It's not possible without stopping at 50th & 66th...

[Brighton Express]

Speaking of trains skipping platforms, I was on an that was way late leaving CI, and he did the same thing. Stopped at a couple stations, like 62 St, but like 20 Av and those ones, he skipped.

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

 

 

G.O's or unplanned service changes probably. It's not possible without stopping at 50th & 66th...

 

With those G.Os it's kinda what's going on here. The basically skips everything but 59 street between TSQ and 72 street but on the local track, while the "super express" the runs express between 42 and 72 without the 59 street stop

[St Louis Car 09]

I would love for them to bring back the express,but in todays age,no express in brooklyn would bring anarchy to brooklyn along fulton street.

[Guest Lance]

There is absolutely no demand for anything resembling the JFK Express. Anyone in midtown can easily hop on the or to Sutphin-Jamaica to connect to the AirTrain JFK, which would be a much faster ride than the meandering Fulton Street line in Brooklyn.