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Last week before the NY1 Town Hall, I was at the NYPL on 42nd and took pictures of some more NYCT committee materials. I haven't uploaded everything yet so stay tuned.

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B30:

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Bx41:

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B61:

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S48/S76

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Do you have any details bout the S59 and S66 cuts in 1995?

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1 hour ago, Lil 57 said:

Do you have any details bout the S59 and S66 cuts in 1995?

It did not mention the S59 but it did mentioned the S66 service cut, which was its elimination of both overnight & Weekend service. 

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I do remember the 1995 cuts. Let me give you some of the rundown of the routes: 

The Bronx: 

Loss of service: Bx24 (Fordham Plaza to 256th St & Fieldstone) 

Loss of Overnight service: Bx3, Bx11, Bx13, Bx17

Loss of Sunday service: Bx20

Partial loss of service: Bx55’s 161st St branch (it’s overnight service was cut a year prior) 

Manhattan: 

Loss of Overnight service: none

Partial loss of service: M18’s East Village and Ft George service. 

M101/M102’s downtown City Hall service, replaced by M103

Brooklyn: 

Loss of service 

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8 hours ago, FLX9304 said:

I do remember the 1995 cuts. Let me give you some of the rundown of the routes: 

The Bronx: 

Loss of service: Bx24 (Fordham Plaza to 256th St & Fieldstone) 

Loss of Overnight service: Bx3, Bx11, Bx13, Bx17

Loss of Sunday service: Bx20

Partial loss of service: Bx55’s 161st St branch (it’s overnight service was cut a year prior) 

Manhattan: 

Loss of Overnight service: none

Partial loss of service: M18’s East Village and Ft George service. 

M101/M102’s downtown City Hall service, replaced by M103

Brooklyn: 

Loss of service 

I am going to post this, and more later.

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2 hours ago, Union Tpke said:

I am going to post this, and more later.

There is more but I think you know the rest of the chips 

 

btw......

 

this is what they did in 1995: 

1. Cut service

2. Raise fares

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1 minute ago, FLX9304 said:

There is more but I think you know the rest of the chips 

 

btw......

 

this is what they did in 1995: 

1. Cut service

2. Raise fares

Specifically, I am posting the Environmental Assessment they did.

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15 hours ago, FLX9304 said:

It did not mention the S59 but it did mentioned the S66 service cut, which was its elimination of both overnight & Weekend service. 

S59 lost overnight service. Used to run hourly between Hylan/Richmond and Forest/Willowbrook

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8 hours ago, checkmatechamp13 said:

 

S59 lost overnight service. Used to run hourly between Hylan/Richmond and Forest/Willowbrook

Ok. Now I remember that one. The 24 hour S59 ran only a segment of its entire route overnight. And they cut that one. But the S66 took the biggest fall inside the cuts. 

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On 6/6/2019 at 2:29 AM, FLX9304 said:

I do remember the 1995 cuts. Let me give you some of the rundown of the routes: 

Partial loss of service: Bx55’s 161st St branch (it’s overnight service was cut a year prior) 

Actually, that branch was cut in June 1995 due to reliability issues at 3rd Ave. Only 5% of riders used that branch, yet 21% of service ran weekdays, 25% on weekends, and nocturnal hours had 50% to either branch.

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3 minutes ago, IRT Bronx Express said:

Actually, that branch was cut in June 1995 due to reliability issues at 3rd Ave. Only 5% of riders used that branch, yet 21% of service ran weekdays, 25% on weekends, and nocturnal hours had 50% to either branch.

I added that info to Wikipedia from here:

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Bx39:

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Bx33:

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1995 Changes in full later

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So those B3 and B37 proposals had been on the books in 1995, but only got to take hold in or after 2010 (the latter needing to be discontinued and subsequently reinstated)...

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"Senior citizens are afraid to walk to the Q5."

That is so poorly phrased...

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"There are no alternative services". So they basically told S55, S56, S59, S60 and S66 costumers "screw you!" and told them to find their own way there. This is why ridership is declining.

Also I never knew that the S59 served Jewett Ave😂

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They mixed in a bit of the S66 commentary into the S59 commentary.

Also would've been nice if they included the ridership stats for Jewett Avenue alone (since riders traveling between Victory/Jewett and St. George can still use the S61/62) instead of just publishing total ridership.

The S60 still had weekend service from 10am to 6pm on weekends when it was merged with the S66 in 2010.

 

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4 hours ago, Lil 57 said:

"There are no alternative services". So they basically told S55, S56, S59, S60 and S66 costumers "screw you!" and told them to find their own way there. This is why ridership is declining.

Also I never knew that the S59 served Jewett Ave😂

In all honesty, the S60 was a pretty BS route by nature, so I can't really say that its demise was anything but inevitable.

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M101/M102/M103

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M10

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