Fire Mountain Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3126 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, DT323 said: Those XD40s are likely not going to CP since it's local fleet is currently all CNG. For now, it's speculated they're going to LGA, EC, and JFK. Way to kill my spirits… 😒😒😒 You know what, now F the MTA….. The CP Depot been running those CNG CLF40s since 2011! That’s 12 years! Sure there were some loaners here and there but bro! Why can’t they send some new buses our directions?! Like come on! Put it this way, we’ll be the ONLY depot without blue local buses 🤦🏾♂️ Edited October 4, 2023 by Fire Mountain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3127 Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Fire Mountain said: Way to kill my spirits… 😒😒😒 You know what, now F the MTA….. The CP Depot been running those CNG CLF40s since 2011! That’s 12 years! Sure there were some loaners here and there but bro! Why can’t they send some new buses our directions?! Like come on! Put it this way, we’ll be the ONLY depot without blue local buses 🤦🏾♂️ I don't see how this is a problem. It's not like they are running decrepit buses. Those C40LFs are in pretty good shape for their age. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Mountain Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3128 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cait Sith said: I don't see how this is a problem. It's not like they are running decrepit buses. Those C40LFs are in pretty good shape for their age. Never said they wasn’t. But when you run the same buses for over a decade, it tends to get old and boring. All the other depots getting new buses, why not us? They can’t make no new cng buses or something at least? These buses now are soon to retire within the next 3-6 years Edited October 4, 2023 by Fire Mountain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3129 Posted October 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fire Mountain said: Never said they wasn’t. But when you run the same buses for over a decade, it tends to get old and boring. All the other depots getting new buses, why not us? They can’t make no new cng buses or something at least? These buses now are soon to retire within the next 3-6 years Because there's literally no need for new CNG buses. The CNG tanks are for 15-20 years. It doesn't matter if it's boring or not, they're in good shape and will last long. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Mountain Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3130 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: Because there's literally no need for new CNG buses. The CNG tanks are for 15-20 years. It doesn't matter if it's boring or not, they're in good shape and will last long. Fine. I just hate the fact there’s is ZERO variety with these local buses in this depot, if they can give these buses at least a remodel or makeover (like they did with the old orions back then), that’ll be cool. Edited October 4, 2023 by Fire Mountain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3131 Posted October 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Fire Mountain said: Fine. I just hate the fact there’s is ZERO variety with these local buses in this depot, if they can give these buses at least a remodel or makeover (like they did with the old orions back then), that’ll be cool. Variety doesn't help with maintenance. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3132 Posted October 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Fire Mountain said: Way to kill my spirits… 😒😒😒 You know what, now F the MTA….. The CP Depot been running those CNG CLF40s since 2011! That’s 12 years! Sure there were some loaners here and there but bro! Why can’t they send some new buses our directions?! Like come on! Put it this way, we’ll be the ONLY depot without blue local buses 🤦🏾♂️ There's should be an RFP for almost 383 CNGs by 2025-26. Y'all can wait... That blue strip was never gonna last forever anyways. 4 hours ago, Fire Mountain said: Never said they wasn’t. But when you run the same buses for over a decade, it tends to get old and boring. All the other depots getting new buses, why not us? They can’t make no new cng buses or something at least? These buses now are soon to retire within the next 3-6 years The buses are in great shape so what cares. This might be a great example of ungratefulness on your side. 3 hours ago, Fire Mountain said: Fine. I just hate the fact there’s is ZERO variety with these local buses in this depot, if they can give these buses at least a remodel or makeover (like they did with the old orions back then), that’ll be cool. Another example of ungratefulness, need I say more? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Mountain Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3133 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Metro CSW said: There's should be an RFP for almost 383 CNGs by 2025-26. Y'all can wait... That blue strip was never gonna last forever anyways. The buses are in great shape so what cares. This might be a great example of ungratefulness on your side. Another example of ungratefulness, need I say more? How is it ungratefulness? Just stop, cause here’s my reasoning. I’m just tired of the SAME buses for over a damn decade. Like the XD40s are in great condition too yet Casey Stengel got newer buses. Jamaica and QV always getting new buses. NYCT stay upgrading. I got excited once I heard MTA Bus was finally getting an upgrade cause we needed one here. So idk where you got ungrateful from cause I never once said get rid of them nor was I ungrateful. Just send a few new buses our way. THAT IS ALL. It ain’t about ungratefulness one bit. It’s about how there wasn’t a change for a while and there will continue to be no change. So don’t just assume I’m being ungrateful when I never once said I was Edited October 4, 2023 by Fire Mountain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3134 Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Fire Mountain said: How is it ungratefulness? Just stop, cause here’s my reasoning. I’m just tired of the SAME buses for over a damn decade. Like the XD40s are in great condition too yet Casey Stengel got newer buses. Jamaica and QV always getting new buses. NYCT stay upgrading. I got excited once I heard MTA Bus was finally getting an upgrade cause we needed one here. So idk where you got ungrateful from cause I never once said get rid of them. Just send a few new buses our way. THAT IS ALL. It ain’t about ungratefulness one bit. It’s about how there wasn’t a change for a while and there will continue to be no change I hope you know that NYCT and MTA bus are funded differently which is why it "takes so long" for new buses to arrive. Also it won't Kill you to wait a couple more yrs to see a new CNG bus in Queens those C40s perform better than a handful of newer buses today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT323 Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3135 Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fire Mountain said: How is it ungratefulness? Just stop, cause here’s my reasoning. I’m just tired of the SAME buses for over a damn decade. Like the XD40s are in great condition too yet Casey Stengel got newer buses. Jamaica and QV always getting new buses. NYCT stay upgrading. I got excited once I heard MTA Bus was finally getting an upgrade cause we needed one here. So idk where you got ungrateful from cause I never once said get rid of them nor was I ungrateful. Just send a few new buses our way. THAT IS ALL. It ain’t about ungratefulness one bit. It’s about how there wasn’t a change for a while and there will continue to be no change. So don’t just assume I’m being ungrateful when I never once said I was In Casey Stengel's and QV's case, they got new buses to replace the older Orion buses at their depot. The reason why LGA/ECH/FR/JFK are getting all the new MTA Bus XD40's is for the same reason as well. The C40LF's aren't as problematic as the Orions at the moment so there's no need to replace them for now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Mountain Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3136 Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said: I hope you know that NYCT and MTA bus are funded differently which is why it "takes so long" for new buses to arrive. Also it won't Kill you to wait a couple more yrs to see a new CNG bus in Queens those C40s perform better than a handful of newer buses today. Oh, I know. But I was just tryna make a point there. People can’t say I’m being ungrateful when I was just hoping for a little change. I have 0 issues with the CNG. I was just hoping for an upgrade for a while now. And about performance, maybe, but question is… why? Didn’t they test these buses out before they sent them? The CNG like the only one with 0 issues ever. Nova on the other hand 😬 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3137 Posted October 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Fire Mountain said: How is it ungratefulness? Just stop, cause here’s my reasoning. I’m just tired of the SAME buses for over a damn decade. Like the XD40s are in great condition too yet Casey Stengel got newer buses. Jamaica and QV always getting new buses. NYCT stay upgrading. I got excited once I heard MTA Bus was finally getting an upgrade cause we needed one here. So idk where you got ungrateful from cause I never once said get rid of them nor was I ungrateful. Just send a few new buses our way. THAT IS ALL. It ain’t about ungratefulness one bit. It’s about how there wasn’t a change for a while and there will continue to be no change. So don’t just assume I’m being ungrateful when I never once said I was You don't have to say it, you're showing it point blank. A blind man can see it so obviously, I don't want to hear anything differently because YOU'RE STILL ACTING THAT WAY! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Mountain Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3138 Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, DT323 said: In Casey Stengel's and QV's case, they got new buses to replace the older Orion buses at their depot. The reason why LGA/ECH/FR/JFK are getting all the new MTA Bus XD40's is for the same reason as well. The C40LF's aren't as problematic as the Orions at the moment so there's no need to replace them for now. I guess so 🤷🏾♂️. And like I just stated, they like the only buses with 0 issues 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Mountain Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3139 Posted October 4, 2023 Just now, Metro CSW said: You don't have to say it, you're showing it point blank. A blind man can see it so obviously, I don't want to hear anything differently because YOU'RE STILL ACTING THAT WAY! Believe what you want then fam. Not tryna argue here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3140 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Fire Mountain said: Believe what you want then fam. Not tryna argue here Good. Next! BTW, thanks for bolding the points of references for me. Saved me so much posting time! XD Edited October 4, 2023 by Metro CSW 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Mountain Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3141 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) For those tuning in, I got my hopes up, they told me CP wasn’t changing, was a lil disappointed til they told me why. So now we all good Anyways, if they trúncate the 65 to flushing, could it go to the CS Depot instead? 🤔 Edited October 4, 2023 by Fire Mountain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3142 Posted October 4, 2023 14 hours ago, Fire Mountain said: Put it this way, we’ll be the ONLY depot without blue local buses 🤦🏾♂️ As long as those non-blue buses have wheels that go 'round and 'round (all through the town), passengers won't care. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3143 Posted October 4, 2023 14 hours ago, Fire Mountain said: Way to kill my spirits… 😒😒😒 You know what, now F the MTA….. The CP Depot been running those CNG CLF40s since 2011! That’s 12 years! Sure there were some loaners here and there but bro! Why can’t they send some new buses our directions?! Like come on! Put it this way, we’ll be the ONLY depot without blue local buses 🤦🏾♂️ How many times? Loans aside (a few buses here and there) CP is not getting anything new other than new orders of CNG's. And the tanks on the buses you have don't expire till they are at least 15 years old! There are other depots around with buses much older than yours. Plus even though your buses are 12 years old, they still run like new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3144 Posted October 4, 2023 8 hours ago, Fire Mountain said: Never said they wasn’t. But when you run the same buses for over a decade, it tends to get old and boring. All the other depots getting new buses, why not us? They can’t make no new cng buses or something at least? These buses now are soon to retire within the next 3-6 years So then in 3-6 years your entire depot will have new buses. "Good things happen to those who wait". "Old and boring" (your words) are extreme fan/foamer words. MTA/NYCT does not run their bus (and train) systems to make the extreme fans/foamers happy. This is not entertainment! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3145 Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Fire Mountain said: How is it ungratefulness? Just stop, cause here’s my reasoning. I’m just tired of the SAME buses for over a damn decade. Like the XD40s are in great condition too yet Casey Stengel got newer buses. Jamaica and QV always getting new buses. NYCT stay upgrading. I got excited once I heard MTA Bus was finally getting an upgrade cause we needed one here. So idk where you got ungrateful from cause I never once said get rid of them nor was I ungrateful. Just send a few new buses our way. THAT IS ALL. It ain’t about ungratefulness one bit. It’s about how there wasn’t a change for a while and there will continue to be no change. So don’t just assume I’m being ungrateful when I never once said I was Again, you will only get new CNG's. PERIOD! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3146 Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Fire Mountain said: For those tuning in, I got my hopes up, they told me CP wasn’t changing, was a lil disappointed til they told me why. So now we all good Anyways, if they trúncate the 65 to flushing, could it go to the CS Depot instead? 🤔 And what will CP get in return? Are they supposed to let excess CNG buses sit around doing nothing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Mountain Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3147 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) @Bill from Maspeth Bro, exclamation points are not necessary, like it’s not that big of a deal. Relax fam. Did I know about the CNG longevity? No. We all here to state our point of views. Not scream at one another. Now can we all just drop this? Damn. I’m tryna have a good day here not be criticized over an opinion Edited October 4, 2023 by Fire Mountain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Mountain Posted October 4, 2023 Share #3148 Posted October 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, Bill from Maspeth said: And what will CP get in return? Are they supposed to let excess CNG buses sit around doing nothing? Oh, and I’m talking about the redesign so whatever route they decide to keep or out there will have the CNGs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Mountain Posted October 5, 2023 Share #3149 Posted October 5, 2023 Ok guys, I have an idea. Hear me out, what if there was a Bayside-LGA route? I was thinking maybe the Q28 or Q61 could possibly(?) head to LaGuardia Airport instead of the 50? Running nonstop along the 50’s “planned routing” only stopping at the terminals. Let’s be real, the 50 is not gonna be implemented. You guys think a route like this could work? Or even a Whitestone-LGA route? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted October 5, 2023 Share #3150 Posted October 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, Fire Mountain said: Ok guys, I have an idea. Hear me out, what if there was a Bayside-LGA route? I was thinking maybe the Q28 or Q61 could possibly(?) head to LaGuardia Airport instead of the 50? Running nonstop along the 50’s “planned routing” only stopping at the terminals. Let’s be real, the 50 is not gonna be implemented. You guys think a route like this could work? Or even a Whitestone-LGA route? How I see things, I don’t think it matters what route you have coming from points east of Flushing to serve LGA, because there will still be a high turnover at Flushing. I don’t think a Whitestone or Bayside connection to LGA is needed. The longer a route is the more it is prone to delays anyways. The MTA wants to give Bronx riders access to LGA they should consider connecting the Bx15 or Bx41 to LGA and call it a day. The Q50 should continue to terminate at Main Street and there should be some kind of shuttle route that runs between Flushing and LGA whether it’s a new route or one of the airport shuttle buses from the Port Authority. I like how the Q19 is taking over most of the current Q48’s routing in Corona via 108th street and Roosevelt Ave and I hope they don’t opt to keep the Q48 around because it is a waste of resources in my opinion. The Q48’s airport usage isn’t all too high as it is and the Q19 wouldn’t get slowed down too much by a Corona detour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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