User Posted November 24, 2021 Share #1 Posted November 24, 2021 Quote New Flyer of America Inc. has received a new contract from the Nassau Inter County Express (NICE) for six battery-electric Xcelsior CHARGE NG™40-foot buses. The five-year contract includes options for up to 30 battery-electric Xcelsior CHARGE NG™ 40-foot buses. With the order, NICE becomes the seventh agency in New York State to purchase zero-emission buses from New Flyer. NICE is the local bus system serving Nassau County, parts of western Suffolk County and eastern portions Queens, New York, providing more than 20 million passenger trips per year. “NFI is steadily increasing its EV presence on the east coast, and this is directly due to aggressive zero-emission leadership and action by transit agencies across New York State,” said Paul Soubry, president and CEO, NFI. “NICE is an established leader in sustainable mobility and continues to build momentum. Since 2015, NFI has delivered 115 low-emission compressed natural gas buses to NICE. Together, through the transition from low to zero-emission mobility, we’re building cleaner, quieter, more livable communities across Long Island – with the added benefit of each EV delivering up to $125,000 in maintenance savings and up to $400,000 in fuel savings over its 12-year vehicle lifespan. This is smart mobility in motion.” New Flyer says its Xcelsior CHARGE NG™ battery-electric buses provide up to 525kWh of power and 250 miles of range on a single charge. Introduced in 2021, the Xcelsior CHARGE NG™ bus incorporates high-energy batteries that extend range up to 13 percent, advanced protective battery packaging for easy install and simpler serviceability and a new lightweight electric traction drive system with up to 90 percent energy recovery, according to the company. “Nassau Inter-County Express has selected New Flyer as our new battery-electric bus vendor,” said Jack Khzouz, CEO, NICE. “We plan on deploying these energy-efficient vehicles for the launch of our new bus rapid transit system, which will provide Nassau County with zero emissions travel between new lifestyle and employment centers. They will help NICE improve accessibility and connectivity within Nassau County.” Link: https://www.masstransitmag.com/bus/vehicles/hybrid-hydrogen-electric-vehicles/press-release/21247232/new-flyer-nice-orders-up-to-36-zeroemission-xcelsior-charge-ng-buses-from-new-flyer Other Articles: https://ngtnews.com/new-yorks-nice-places-order-for-up-to-36-zero-emission-new-flyer-transit-buses https://www.newflyer.com/2021/11/new-yorks-nice-orders-up-to-36-zero-emission-xcelsior-charge-ng-transit-buses-from-nfis-new-flyer/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAzumah Posted November 25, 2021 Share #2 Posted November 25, 2021 These buses are almost there in functionality. By 2025, the electric mass market buses will have enough range for 90% of agencies to use the buses without changing the schedule. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion 7 Posted January 7, 2022 Share #3 Posted January 7, 2022 On 11/24/2021 at 2:54 PM, User said: Link: https://www.masstransitmag.com/bus/vehicles/hybrid-hydrogen-electric-vehicles/press-release/21247232/new-flyer-nice-orders-up-to-36-zeroemission-xcelsior-charge-ng-buses-from-new-flyer Other Articles: https://ngtnews.com/new-yorks-nice-places-order-for-up-to-36-zero-emission-new-flyer-transit-buses https://www.newflyer.com/2021/11/new-yorks-nice-orders-up-to-36-zero-emission-xcelsior-charge-ng-transit-buses-from-nfis-new-flyer/ So are these buses going to be fleet expansion buses or replace anything in NICE's current arsenal? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted March 21, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTABusTransitFanner Posted March 23, 2022 Share #5 Posted March 23, 2022 Yeah not a lot of operators of NICE enjoy these…. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted March 23, 2022 From: https://www.longisland.com/news/03-21-22/nassau-county-legislature-announces-electric-nice-bus-initiative.html Quote These six buses will initially service the Nassau County HUB area with service originating from the Rosa Parks Bus Depot in the Village of Hempstead and serving the greater Hempstead, Nassau Community College, Hofstra University and Roosevelt Field areas. Usage will then expand throughout the county. “Nassau Inter-County Express has selected New Flyer as our new battery-electric bus vendor,” said Jack Khzouz, Chief Executive Officer, NICE. “We plan on deploying these energy-efficient vehicles for the launch of our new bus rapid transit (BRT) system, which will provide Nassau County with zero emissions travel between Rosa Parks Hempstead Transit Center to the Nassau Hub/NCC locations. They will help NICE improve accessibility and connectivity within Nassau County.” Looks like a new route in the Nassau Hub could be coming soon (maybe similar to the old N93 route shown below with the addition of serving Hempstead Transit Center and NCC): 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted March 24, 2022 Share #7 Posted March 24, 2022 Sounds like an circulator type route would be created to use these electric buses on. Baltimore and New Haven CT have these types of route. Kind of disappointed this is the new route they are debuting. Was hoping they would convert the N40/41 to an BRT route or something. Also wish these buses would run on any NICE bus route rather than be restricted to this new route. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTABusTransitFanner Posted April 6, 2022 Share #8 Posted April 6, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 1:37 PM, Orion 7 said: So are these buses going to be fleet expansion buses or replace anything in NICE's current arsenal? This is a fleet expansion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share #9 Posted April 7, 2022 The design of the new buses has been released: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted April 7, 2022 Share #10 Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, User said: The design of the new buses has been released: Looks like they ordered XN40s to replace the 1800s and they think they have an sufficient amount of buses to make service even though it won't be an bus for bus replacement. Theres 40 1800 NG CNGs but they are ordering only 33 XN40s to replace them. I wonder why they didn't order more Gilligs. Edited April 7, 2022 by trainfan22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted April 8, 2022 Share #11 Posted April 8, 2022 6 hours ago, trainfan22 said: Looks like they ordered XN40s to replace the 1800s and they think they have an sufficient amount of buses to make service even though it won't be an bus for bus replacement. Theres 40 1800 NG CNGs but they are ordering only 33 XN40s to replace them. I wonder why they didn't order more Gilligs. NICE is still going with Gillig to replace the remaining NGs, and all 3Gs. I don't know if there is sources for 33 new XN40s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted April 8, 2022 Share #12 Posted April 8, 2022 10 hours ago, RSMG106 said: NICE is still going with Gillig to replace the remaining NGs, and all 3Gs. I don't know if there is sources for 33 new XN40s. I assume that pic in the first post I quoted is from NICE themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted April 8, 2022 Author Share #13 Posted April 8, 2022 2 hours ago, trainfan22 said: I assume that pic in the first post I quoted is from NICE themselves. That is correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Powers Posted April 10, 2022 Share #14 Posted April 10, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 11:29 PM, RSMG106 said: NICE is still going with Gillig to replace the remaining NGs, and all 3Gs. I don't know if there is sources for 33 new XN40s. Are you sure? Do you think the CEO meant the BRT Plus CNGs for the 33 new CNG buses? Shouldn't the first option be for 40 units? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted April 10, 2022 Share #15 Posted April 10, 2022 Again with this guy?...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Powers Posted April 10, 2022 Share #16 Posted April 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, GojiMet86 said: Again with this guy?...... Hey now, relax. I'm not here to start no beef. It's been nearly a decade since I made my presence known to the forums. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted May 13, 2022 Share #17 Posted May 13, 2022 On 3/23/2022 at 9:31 PM, trainfan22 said: Sounds like an circulator type route would be created to use these electric buses on. Baltimore and New Haven CT have these types of route. Kind of disappointed this is the new route they are debuting. Was hoping they would convert the N40/41 to an BRT route or something. Also wish these buses would run on any NICE bus route rather than be restricted to this new route. They probably want to keep them close to the depot while they test them out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMTAEmprie Posted February 17, 2023 Share #18 Posted February 17, 2023 On 5/13/2022 at 3:09 PM, N6 Limited said: They probably want to keep them close to the depot while they test them out. That does make sense. NICE is getting a seperate lot to store these XE40s (and more electric buses are coming soon in 2025 according to NICE), so it would appear that the transition from CNG to BEV is well underway (for better or for worse)... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Mcnonald Posted September 29, 2023 Share #19 Posted September 29, 2023 Seems like NICE might be choosing the n16 line as the first route to see electric buses (according to another site). Someone claim to have see 2023 New Flyer XE40 Electric #2080 trailing on there (Not In Service). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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