Trains collide/derail at 96th St IRT Station

[QM1to6Ave]

3 hours ago, 7-express said:

ABC7 has posted an interview with the train operator in front of the disabled 1 train who was acting as a flagger.  Seemed to point the finger at a radio communication technical error: https://abc7ny.com/subway-collision-derailment-train-operator-new-york-city/14310375/

Wow, that is a powerful interview. I hope this T/O Valentine didn't just get himself in hot water by talking to the press.

[Arrow III]

6 hours ago, 7-express said:

ABC7 has posted an interview with the train operator in front of the disabled 1 train who was acting as a flagger.  Seemed to point the finger at a radio communication technical error: https://abc7ny.com/subway-collision-derailment-train-operator-new-york-city/14310375/

It also seemed like he pointed his finger at his supervisor operating from the middle of the train for not stopping and nearly getting him killed.

[7-express]

27 minutes ago, Arrow III said:

It also seemed like he pointed his finger at his supervisor operating from the middle of the train for not stopping and nearly getting him killed.

It certainly did seem that way if you take that line only.  But reading in between the lines with what he also said during the interview, it's appears the needle is pointing on a radio communication failure.  Like they hit a dead spot at the worst possible time.

Edited January 12 by 7-express

[darkstar8983]

14 hours ago, 7-express said:

It certainly did seem that way if you take that line only.  But reading in between the lines with what he also said during the interview, it's appears the needle is pointing on a radio communication failure.  Like they hit a dead spot at the worst possible time.

For this type of situation why didn’t the MTA bring in a tow train to hook up to the front of the disabled units and tow it to the yard from 79 St or wherever the train broke down.

[zacster]

9 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said:

For this type of situation why didn’t the MTA bring in a tow train to hook up to the front of the disabled units and tow it to the yard from 79 St or wherever the train broke down.

My guess is that will be standard procedure from now on.  But I'd have been wrong since I assumed that after Roosevelt Ave that would have already been standard procedure.  Not much has changed since then except the train sets got longer, from 2 cars to 4 or 5 cars, only to make matters worse.

[7-express]

4 hours ago, zacster said:

My guess is that will be standard procedure from now on.  But I'd have been wrong since I assumed that after Roosevelt Ave that would have already been standard procedure.  Not much has changed since then except the train sets got longer, from 2 cars to 4 or 5 cars, only to make matters worse.

I totally forgot about the Roosevelt Ave accident.  I read about it years back but didn't remember it until now.  Reading the details, it sounds extremely familiar.  Looks like they were using flashlight signaling back then between the forward flagger and the operator in the middle of the set, which was not effective on curve.  Portable radios probably weren't very common back then.  I imagine radio signalling was the upgrade to flashlights but now that has proven to be defeatable by dead zones so pulling a rescue train in front seems like the likely next move to prevent this issue in the future.  Of course that'll be a challenge for operations since they have to take another train out of service and wrong rail it to pull the dead train back home.