BM5 via Woodhaven Posted January 5 Share #26 Posted January 5 (edited) As a result of the potential delays on other lines due to the suspension, there are some changes on other lines: Some trains are running local north of 59th Street - Columbus Circle in both directions. All service in The Bronx is temporarily suspended. Metro North is cross honoring on the Harlem Line within NYC, and the Hudson Line between Marble Hill and Grand Central. Edited January 5 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 5 Author Share #27 Posted January 5 43 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: As a result of the potential delays on other lines due to the suspension, there are some changes on other lines: Some trains are running local north of 59th Street - Columbus Circle in both directions. All service in The Bronx is temporarily suspended. Metro North is cross honoring on the Harlem Line within NYC, and the Hudson Line between Marble Hill and Grand Central. You mean Express service in the Bronx* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted January 5 Share #28 Posted January 5 Jesus Christ looking at the photos thank god there where only minor injuries to this accident and no one seriously got hurt..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 5 Share #29 Posted January 5 One thing ill say is unlike ALL over the internet people here on this site isn't saying "Oh this is what happened even though i dont work there".. No I'm not going to say how this went down either active investigation... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris89292 Posted January 5 Share #30 Posted January 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, 40 to 241st said: Can we all wish the injured people safe recovery from this incident. They were all minor injuries, and the trauma that this made of caused is something that can’t be recovered from one day to the other…..just take a look at the videos Edited January 5 by Chris89292 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTA Posted January 5 Share #31 Posted January 5 I’m hearing that train service will be resumed at 4, but with the pictures I saw, a pillar and a wall is gonna have to be fixed too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 5 Author Share #32 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, RTOMan said: One thing ill say is unlike ALL over the internet people here on this site isn't saying "Oh this is what happened even though i dont work there".. No I'm not going to say how this went down either active investigation... As you should. Don’t get in trouble for something like that. Me and you both know people have in the past for speaking on stuff like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 5 Share #33 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: As you should. Don’t get in trouble for something like that. Me and you both know people have in the past for speaking on stuff like this. Exactly i got buffs in my inbox trying to ask me too.. Never spoke to me before dont speak to me now.. They can keep it moving that way>>>> 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclonicTrainLookout Posted January 5 Share #34 Posted January 5 From what I've seen on some news site yesterday, a NIS train was bypassing the 96th Street station on the local track just as an in-service train was leaving the station on the express track on its way to switch onto the local track. The NIS train had its brakes activated somewhere on the line so the in-service train was on the express track bypassing that train, and thus they meet up at 96th Street. Since I'm merely a person on front of a screen, I'm just purely speculating it was some sort of signal error since I'm sure (someone can correct me on this) red signals should've been relayed on one of the two tracks as the switch was being used but hadn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianR Posted January 5 Share #35 Posted January 5 Thats unbelievable. I heard about this when I got home from work 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil 57 Posted January 5 Share #36 Posted January 5 2 hours ago, NBTA said: I’m hearing that train service will be resumed at 4, but with the pictures I saw, a pillar and a wall is gonna have to be fixed too. The service alerts are saying that service is still suspended for the rest of the day at least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted January 5 Share #37 Posted January 5 (edited) The service alerts are also saying that southbound s are express from TSQ to Chambers, while southbound s are local in that same stretch. I’m guessing it’s to give the downtown local customers a direct one-seat ride to Brooklyn? Edited January 5 by Jemorie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclonicTrainLookout Posted January 5 Share #38 Posted January 5 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Jemorie said: The service alerts are also saying that southbound s are express from TSQ to Chambers, while southbound s are local in that same stretch. I’m guessing it’s to give the downtown local customers a direct one-seat ride to Brooklyn? Could be? But really it's because switches between 34-Penn and 42-Times Sq doesn't allow northbound local to switch to the southbound local track; it only allows that train to relay on the northbound express track at 42-Times Sq, and can only switch over to the southbound express track at 34-Penn going southbound, and remain on the express heading south. Northbound express can relay on the southbound express track at 42-Times Sq to avoid conflict with relaying trains and while it can switch to the southbound express going southbound, it would conflict with the southbound . There are however switches from the southbound express to the southbound local, and with the lack of southbound local due to the switches between 34-Penn and 42-Times Sq, the would run local going southbound. Edited January 5 by CyclonicTrainLookout 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted January 5 Share #39 Posted January 5 37 minutes ago, CyclonicTrainLookout said: Could be? But really it's because switches between 34-Penn and 42-Times Sq doesn't allow northbound local to switch to the southbound local track; it only allows that train to relay on the northbound express track at 42-Times Sq, and can only switch over to the southbound express track at 34-Penn going southbound, and remain on the express heading south. Northbound express can relay on the southbound express track at 42-Times Sq to avoid conflict with relaying trains and while it can switch to the southbound express going southbound, it would conflict with the southbound . There are however switches from the southbound express to the southbound local, and with the lack of southbound local due to the switches between 34-Penn and 42-Times Sq, the would run local going southbound. Exactly, and since the terminal capacity of this operation is already capped at Times Square to about 10 trains per hour (total), there won't be too much conflict at Chambers St when trains have to cross over each other there (for the to go to South Ferry and for the to go to Brooklyn). So thee operation is Northbound (from Southern Terminals) via 7 Av Local, via 7 Av Express Southbound (from Times Square) via 7 Av Exp, via 7 Av Local 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted January 5 Share #40 Posted January 5 Thank you guys for the clearing up why the roles of southbound s and s in Manhattan are completely reversed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted January 5 Share #41 Posted January 5 Trains have resumed service between 148th and 96th. train service is still the same, with free shuttle buses originating at the 110th St station. Shuttles buses go to City College or 149th St-Grand Concourse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted January 5 Share #42 Posted January 5 Trains originating from The Bronx are now running to 96th Street. The trains are terminating at the downtown platform. Uptown Trains are boarding at the same platform and are running express to 137th Street. At least some progress is being made. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted January 5 Share #43 Posted January 5 They've finally resumed southbound service down the West Side in some capacity, though I question if it's wise to do so. After all, they're turning trains there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclonicTrainLookout Posted January 5 Share #44 Posted January 5 11 minutes ago, Lex said: They've finally resumed southbound service down the West Side in some capacity, though I question if it's wise to do so. After all, they're turning trains there. It's stated that West Side are making local stops down the entire 7 Av corridor. are turning at the southbound express track at Times Sq-42, so the won't interfere with terminating trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40 to 241st Posted January 5 Share #45 Posted January 5 8 hours ago, Chris89292 said: They were all minor injuries, and the trauma that this made of caused is something that can’t be recovered from one day to the other…..just take a look at the videos Oh my goodness I actually saw some traumatized people in on of the videos. Let’s just hope they get the best help they need 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted January 6 Share #46 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, CyclonicTrainLookout said: It's stated that West Side are making local stops down the entire 7 Av corridor. are turning at the southbound express track at Times Sq-42, so the won't interfere with terminating trains. Those southbound trains are interfering with Trains that are terminating at 96th as those are ending on the downtown local platform and go back up. Though not all trains are going to the west side yet and the is running sporadically to 96th (Some are still terminating at 137th) so it doesn’t seem to be an issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted January 6 Share #47 Posted January 6 19 minutes ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: Those southbound trains are interfering with Trains that are terminating at 96th as those are ending on the downtown local platform and go back up. Though not all trains are going to the west side yet and the is running sporadically to 96th (Some are still terminating at 137th) so it doesn’t seem to be an issue. Maybe the and can share the downtown express track at 96 St to turn trains and the can run via 7 Av Local downtown, and northbound via Lexington. The and would only be able to run every 15-20 minutes to 96 St, so some trains will still need to turn at 137 St, which will be hard since that turning track will be the northbound track for the since trains originating at 96 St must skip 103 St , 110 St, 116 St, and 125 St due to switch configuration. Northbound Lenox service will also obviously be limited, but at least with southbound service available, some equipment can be moved from the yards to the south end for the service south of Times Square to run more consistent service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted January 6 Share #48 Posted January 6 22 hours ago, Lawrence St said: No, probably PTSB instead. Actually, the NTSB will be involved in the investigation as they had concerns about the string of accidents in the system as of late. They referred to the transit worker that was killed in November at Herald Square as another sticking point. https://abc7ny.com/14283053/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 6 Share #49 Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: Actually, the NTSB will be involved in the investigation as they had concerns about the string of accidents in the system as of late. They referred to the transit worker that was killed in November at Herald Square as another sticking point. https://abc7ny.com/14283053/ Welp I wouldn’t be surprised if some black helmets (System Safety) were out and about in the next few days 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted January 6 Share #50 Posted January 6 14 hours ago, Lawrence St said: You mean Express service in the Bronx* Yeah, forgot to include "express" --------- From what it sounds like, there will be service running all night between Times Square and Atlantic Ave - Barclays Center (due to the lack of service). Makes sense, although IDK how the headways will look like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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