Lawrence St Posted January 4 Share #1 Posted January 4 Still in early reporting. There are confusing sources on whether it was a Collison or a derailment. https://abc7ny.com/upper-west-side-subway-derailment-trains/14274535/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted January 4 Share #2 Posted January 4 13 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Still in early reporting. There are confusing sources on whether it was a Collison or a derailment. https://abc7ny.com/upper-west-side-subway-derailment-trains/14274535/ Per 1010 wins 1 train derailed.and "made contact" with the other 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare402 Posted January 4 Share #3 Posted January 4 (edited) oh damn did they say what caused it? Edited January 4 by nightmare402 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted January 4 Share #4 Posted January 4 43 minutes ago, nightmare402 said: oh damn did they say what caused it? Under investigation right now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted January 4 Share #5 Posted January 4 Metro North is cross honoring between Marble Hil and Grand Central. IMO it should have also included at least Spuyten Duyvil, but that's a start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 4 Author Share #6 Posted January 4 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAllStar64 Posted January 4 Share #7 Posted January 4 Yikes. Would this be the 2nd Derailment involving the R62As? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted January 4 Share #8 Posted January 4 Jesus, I don't remember seeing pictures like that in a while. I'm confused as to what happened exactly--sounds like a work train hit the train and then the derailed from the impact (or from crossing over a switch from the impact?). I'm sure details will come out, but that is really scary. I'm guessing stop arms don't stop work trains that cross red signals? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare402 Posted January 4 Share #9 Posted January 4 (edited) it was two 62A 1's from what im seeing Edited January 4 by nightmare402 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted January 4 Share #10 Posted January 4 Here's a tweet with some more pictures. Seems to show two R62A trains side-by-side in one of them. My guess is that right before this happened trains were running express to 96th because of a mechanical issue on a train at 79th. From some of the pictures it seems that there was a train on both the local and express tracks at 96th, both signed as trains. It is possible that there was a switching error leading to the OOS R62A colliding with the in-service train crossing over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare402 Posted January 4 Share #11 Posted January 4 (edited) crazy thing. i read same thing happened on the GG years ago. 05/20/1970. An empty Brooklyn bound GG train running on the southbound local track (D1) crashed into another GG train west of Roosevelt Avenue that was crossing from the southbound express track (D3) to the southbound local track (D1). The empty GG had left Continental Avenue at 7:13 AM and developed brake trouble. Passengers were discharged at Woodhaven Boulevard and the first two cars were cut out. The motorman then operated the train from the third car with the conductor signaling with a flashlight from the front of the train Because of the stalled train southbound EE and GG trains were routed to the express track (D3) and then crossed back over to the local track (D1) west of Roosevelt Avenue. The home signal tripper on the local track (D1) was working but as the empty train was running with the first two cars cut out it did not engage the trip cock in time. The empty train rammed into the train crossing over to the local track between the 6th and 7th cars. Edited January 4 by nightmare402 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40 to 241st Posted January 4 Share #12 Posted January 4 2 hours ago, nightmare402 said: oh damn did they say what caused it? Apparently it collided with a work train that’s how the derailment happened 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted January 4 Share #13 Posted January 4 Word is the 1 train on the local track was B/O, running under “other than head car operation”. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 5 Author Share #14 Posted January 5 26 minutes ago, 40 to 241st said: Apparently it collided with a work train that’s how the derailment happened There was no work train. The “work train” was an out of service that was vandalized with the emergency brake cords being pulled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 via Mosholu Posted January 5 Share #15 Posted January 5 I know that I can see 2415 pictured in the derailment pictures, but what were the other three sets that were involved? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abj23 Posted January 5 Share #16 Posted January 5 47 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: There was no work train. The “work train” was an out of service that was vandalized with the emergency brake cords being pulled. Yea there was 2 trains, one on the express in service leaving slowly and the other was NIS bypassing the stop on the local 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturious Posted January 5 Share #17 Posted January 5 So... is it safe to say this is getting scrapped? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted January 5 Share #18 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Vulturious said: So... is it safe to say this is getting scrapped? Maybe? Best case scenario, it's just the flooring that got bent and can be replaced easily. Worst case scenario, the frame is too damaged for a repair to be feasible. Either way, that 5-car set (2411-2415) is going to be out for quite a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted January 5 Share #19 Posted January 5 1 minute ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: Maybe? Best case scenario, it's just the flooring that got bent and can be replaced easily. Worst case scenario, the frame is too damaged for a repair to be feasible. Either way, that 5-car set (2411-2415) is going to be out for quite a while. Yeah, they won't even be able to touch it for a long time while the investigation is underway. I wonder if NTSB gets involved here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 5 Author Share #20 Posted January 5 42 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said: Yeah, they won't even be able to touch it for a long time while the investigation is underway. I wonder if NTSB gets involved here. No, probably PTSB instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted January 5 Share #21 Posted January 5 NTSB is getting involved. I will say this though, All of this was because of vandalism. It's getting to the point where we need to start taking it serious because again a f**king EDP caused this mess. All these years of "You can't take photos over here and etc." And yet you have vandals messing with the system and EDPs up the ass and nobody does a goddamn thing. The city and state need to stop being lax on the law because at this point things have gotten out of control. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted January 5 Share #22 Posted January 5 okay, first of all, being emotionally disturbed isn't a crime in and off itself. Pulling the brakes like that is, at best, a misdemeanor. And while it was the inciting factor, there was other human and/or mechanical error that led to this happening. If that b/o train had stopped. if the crew had been able to release that one cord. as for the vandals... did you not catch the one little detail... It was recorded. A short while ago we wouldn't have known. Now we have CBTC and CCTV monitoring that area. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 5 Author Share #23 Posted January 5 18 minutes ago, Kamen Rider said: okay, first of all, being emotionally disturbed isn't a crime in and off itself. Pulling the brakes like that is, at best, a misdemeanor. And while it was the inciting factor, there was other human and/or mechanical error that led to this happening. If that b/o train had stopped. if the crew had been able to release that one cord. as for the vandals... did you not catch the one little detail... It was recorded. A short while ago we wouldn't have known. Now we have CBTC and CCTV monitoring that area. Are you able to tell us what you've heard so far? Or is it company info only? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted January 5 Share #24 Posted January 5 What I've said is what I know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40 to 241st Posted January 5 Share #25 Posted January 5 Can we all wish the injured people safe recovery from this incident. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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