R68OnBroadway

Any service that isn’t from 6th local via 63rd is a terrible idea as the doesn’t need another merge. (Don’t even say 60th as you would have just swapped the designations and killed the ’s reliability. Eliminating the could just be recouped by extra s to Astoria. The isn’t really an independent line anyways and I would probably only keep the designation to not confuse people about the short turn s to Whitehall.

I once took the from Prospect into Manhattan one evening hoping it would be faster than the (since it crawls through DeKalb) and got stuck on the bridge for 20 mins since a work train ahead stalled and didn’t respond. Train also crawled up 6th and I eventually bailed for the at 34th.

Your obsession with long and pointless extensions is on par with that of Wallyhorse’s and the bridge stubs...

It’s not really a question of services but of frequency... Broadway local is limited to IIRC 24 tph due to the City Hall curve (though the speed increase there might help a little). Astoria is currently served by I believe 7.5 TPH and 7.5 TPH (15 TPH total). The now runs 10 TPH and the runs 10 TPH (so 20 TPH goes to QBL local. If we are going to a 1:1 split, we up QBL by 2 TPH but cut 3 from Astoria. If we go for 20 (a meaningful increase) to Astoria, we give Astoria a good amount of service but screw over QBL. If we end up sending the and to Astoria and and have another QBL local-8th service we give Astoria a good increase and can still keep a good frequency on QBL local (The would run at 11 TPH while the keeps 15 as IIRC WTC can turn only 26 TPH at most). (The reason for keeping the designation is because it would avoid confusion from designating all the trains at short-turns to Whitehall.)

Why make the local on the weekends? It makes more sense to just have the run on weekends instead (not that I would do that). Other than that, this plan is fine. While it is a bare minimum in that it only kills the 34th merge and still leaves Astoria underserved, it’s still better than the delays in of today.

Any plan involving taking the off QBL would involve sending it to Astoria (with the switches there being rearranged). The could use CI or 36th as a yard; even though there would be no direct access, deadheading wouldn’t kill the line. As for the loss of QBL-60th service, you could just add a passageway between Lex/63 and Lex/59; even without that you have the at Times Square and the to the at 57th (with the shuttle modernization project would be able to make a direct transfer to the in a few years). Converting Astoria to IRT specs is a terrible idea (it would make far more sense to convert the to B div specs, but that’s not a priority nor a good way to spend money given all the other issues at the MTA.

I don’t really see why this is needed- 6th is close also, and if you go for an pattern you can easily transfer at 63rd. As for how tracks feed into certain lines, 60th feeds into Astoria while 53rd feeds to QBL local and 63rd feeds to QBL express. Since having all express via 63rd and all local via 53rd seems overkill, I would just implement a CPW-style service pattern. All of this is (hopefully) complimented by a passageway between Lex-63 and Lex-59.

Care to elaborate?

I would say on QBL( same, via 63rd, and 179-WTC via QBL/8th local and 53rd), to 96, to Astoria).

It’s the connection between the 60th St tunnel and QBL local at Queens Plaza.

You can say that again... I once opted for the M31 around 72/York because I didn’t want to walk to the and that bus was so slow that by the time we got to 3rd/57th the would have been at 7th/Flatbush...

I thought Green was the only PBL that wasn’t terrible (or was it NYBS?)

If you are going to involve QBL, then have the to 96th, to Astoria, and keep the as-is. For QBL you would send the via 63rd while a service runs Forest Hills-WTC via QBL local/53rd to reduce crowds on the .

As great as going further would be, I don't see the MTA doing much other than extending the to Bay Ridge. We could maybe see some Broadway de-interlining in the future but it would probably only result in a service increase and the to 96th.

Is 63rd an exception to the rule considering it’s more open and newer design? Trains seem to fly into Roosevelt Island at no less than 40mph.

Then terminate it at QBP (or even send it up 2nd). The shouldn't have to suffer just to keep the on QBL (you would also help Bay Ridge a bit in doing so).

You’ve just moved the merge to another place while still underserving 2nd and Astoria.

Why don’t they just send the to Astoria and have only the to maintain somewhat decent frequencies?

Any reason why it's happening so late this year?

It's really telling that a Republican county commissioner from upstate supported the Triboro RX while our mayor hasn't said anything...

A lot of the IND in general could use some repairs... Norwood is hell, Lafayette is a prison, Culver after 4th-9th is rotting, 103rd has more plywood than concrete, and the upper Manhattan stations (168th and north) stink like shit.

Norwood needs a renovation the most.

The shuttle is not very frequent already so its effects would most likely be minimal. My opinion is that at least something should be done with the shuttle as an extension of it would give transferring riders more frequent service to the Rockaway branch as well as make Rockaway Park commuters have slightly less abysmal commutes.

Was extending the to Rockaway Blvd full time ever considered?

The aggressiveness, immaturity and ignorance of some people on this forum is astounding...