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NYCT ridership data form 2018: NYCT SI took a big hit with ridership last year with all routes seeing declines as much as 16.3%.

I wonder, why isn't there a bus route that connects Astoria with Sunnyside? You have to go out of the way in order to go between the two neighborhoods. It can be faster to walk between Sunnyside and Astoria than by using public transit because of this. Why not have the Q101 (or a variant of it) run down 39th Street like this? Yes I do know about the Q104, but that doesn't help the western and southern parts of Sunnyside. Q101A: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pvqWVwbnJ4Xiy0qRm8K5ZaHn1_RKZP2l&usp=sharing

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The train towards Manhattan is terrible this weekend. On the express section we're doing 10 mph the entire way. I suggest not taking the subway this weekend if you relay on the .

Here's a image so you can see what I'm talking about.

Remember those Museum of Sex ads that went viral because they were on the front of the bus and the B/Os were getting harassed? Well they are back on the front of the buses but with an American flag background instead of a black background. Let's see how long it takes before they get ripped off again. They are in the process of taking off the oatmilk ads so you won't see them that much right now.

8185 is on the S46.

I'm wondering, if Yukon gets 41 LFS buses and Castleton gets 25 LFS buses, where would the other 11 LFS buses go? Maybe Charleston to have all 3 SI depots get new LFS buses?

Here's a SI Live article about someone being wrongly accused of not paying on an expess bus. SILive.com: MTA crackdown: Express bus rider claims he was unjustly accused of fare evasion. https://www.silive.com/news/2019/07/mta-crackdown-express-bus-rider-claims-he-was-unjustly-accused-of-fare-evasion.html

Okay I've made some edits. Maybe if there is any boat with 2 S90s, have one of them run down to Matrix Park and the other go to Elizabeth. I've introduced a Weekday route called the S49, which runs from St. George to CSI and serves Cottage Hill. With your S42 Proposal, you also eliminate service off Brighton. If the SIM4N is created, that would be a better option. The S61 running overnights is a good idea as long as there is demand for it. However, the only street with a 24/7 bus route to the ferry between Forest and the SI mall is at Victory. If anything under your plan, people could take the S59 and transfer if needed. Maybe have some short-turns at Tottenville on the S77. Makes scene, in my new plan, the S66 and S67 switch terminals, (The S66 is given full time service), the S57 is via Jewett and the S56 goes via Foster/Seguine as well to the Bricktown Mall. NJT uses a different fare system that the , so unless OMNY is offered on NJT as well, a free transfer will be very hard to do. The S44 will be basically used as a connector from Bayonne to SI and people can transfer to other routes in SI so that Bayonne can have 7-day service. One of the first things I suggested when I came to this forum was to have the S89 go to EWR, however people, including you said that the S98 was better. Where else could I end the S75 that would attract more ridership? Maybe the teleport and WSP?

No they don't.

The S73 isn't really that meandrous, other than the routing in Roseville to attract ridership in that area, it's pretty straightforward. The S75 also serves the business parks in the Metropark area and the Woodbridge center mall. I'm constantly making edits to this plan. So this isn't final.

Also what if you dipped the wrong card with insufficient funds? Which could happen because most express bus riders are no where near a subway station or one of the few SI locations to check how much money is left on your cards. Should you receive a fine for dipping the wrong card? No! If they pay the rest of the fare with another Metrocard, they should be able to get on the bus. Not have someone jumping at you because of an error.

7067 has also been doing some S62 runs. I'm going to guess this is a fill in unless someone confirms it's a transfer.

8226 to Yukon

Next thing you know, the steps back on farebeating because of this malfunctioning MetroCard issue.

They have more, you're forgetting the SBS NGs and they have around 23 of those.

I was thinking that but since Yukon is supposed to get some 2015 buses from CAS I wasn't sure. However 8187 is on the S62 and fill-ins don't stay out this long usually.

8186 is on the S44 and 8187 is on the S57, not sure if this is a CA guy doing a trip or if it's a move to Yukon.

But doesn't ruin the whole thing of getting extra buses to run more service in the fall?

But remember, Yukon needs all of their buses for the school year and since Castleton are keeping them to help fill their fleet Yukon is going to need to find buses elsewhere, either take the rest of GH's order or get those 25 buses by swaps.

@checkmatechamp13 I forgot to add, the S77 would most likey be out of Charleston, which means that the route would have to dehead up Arthur Kill Road anyway to get to the depot so sending it to Bricktown would cost nothing.

Will that mean the the reaming NGs will stay at Yukon? Or will LFS buses be shifted to SI from other depots to get the NGs out of the island when school starts?

Fair enough, in my revisions the Elizabeth S48 trips are now rerouted to Arlington and Elizabeth is covered by an S40 branch and all S90 trips go to Elizabeth. People can now get from Elizabeth to Manhattan for $2.75 if they don't want to pay for NJT and deal with their "zoned pricing". Fair enough, I revised the S52 to go on Jersey Street, the pre 2010 routing. That might work, however a school route should be made using the current S57 route to Brielle Ave, after Wagner HS, Manor-Rockland, S57 route to the New Dorp SIR station, 10th-Tysens and terminates at Tysens and Amboy. Also your plan has service eliminated along Decker Ave which will leave people with a longer walk. In my plan, the S89 doesn't serve Bayonne. After Morningstar/Walker, it runs nonstop to Christopher Columbus Drive, which is in Jersey City. I would of made this route express but doing that would kill the intraborough ridership along the S89 and eliminate limited stop service along Richmond Ave. The S44 would be the only route to Bayonne in my plan. For a North Shore-CSI route, I was thinking of a local route that runs from Arlington to Bay Ridge, taking the same route as the SIM33C in Staten Island. This route would also serve CSI along Victory. However the S59 should be extended to the ferry at least overnights so Richmond Ave riders can have a direct ride to/from the ferry overnight. One of the reasons why the overnight S59 had low ridership before 1995 was because of the transfer people had to make. People don't like making transfers between two routes with 60 minute headway. If the first bus was late, oh well you missed your connection and had to wait a whole hour to get the next bus. The headway would probably be 30 now but that's still a long time to wait at night if you missed your connection. Also, I wouldn't want to be waiting for a bus at night in Port Richmond. That area can be seedy at night.

@checkmatechamp13 Sorry it took a while but here is my commentary on your proposal. The ridership south of Forest Ave on South Ave is light so I don't think there needs to be an route going to WSP via Richmond Terrace. Unless if you want to switch the S40/90 terminal with the S46/96 terminal, which can improve reliability on the S46/96. See my comment for the S57/66 switch above. I liked how you made different "school routes" and instead of having trippers on one roue, you made a 'school system" that operates during school days. I'm not sure about the S58. I'm not sure how much demand is from Elm Park to CSI. You could run it as a trial route running weekdays only at first and go from there. I liked how you gave the S79 overnight service but it shouldn't be at the expense of the S77/78. The southern portion of Hylan can be a 25-30 minute walk from the SIR at some points and people should be able to retain their overnight service. The S77 and S78 can be combined overnight since there isn't much traffic during that time. The rest seems pretty fine.