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  1. +1, however, I'd like NYC to do it in a sensible way. I don't want to see 20 storey glass towers going up on a block that has historically been full of single family homes. I guess the only area which works well with this mix (generally speaking) is Forest Hills / Kew Gardens. In the Kew-Forest section (between 75 Ave and Union Tpke off of Queens Blvd), there are several large single family homes with long driveways and large lawns which are only a stones throw away from 6-storey pre-war apartments and the Park Lane North / South coops. I just feel that a 20 storey tower would not sit well in the middle of a block with single family homes in a place like Little Neck.
  2. @DetSMART45 - We all have a soapbox. It's called the NYCTF. I agree that the days of the free rides need to end. However, as a society, we need to strike a balance in collecting the fares vs creating criminality out of a less than perfect fare collection system (esp. with the SBS). In the case of a car having a faulty auto part, the car can be fixed and the ticket effectively voided. How does one prove a faulty phone? After all, this post is about bus fare evasion and ways to stop it. As I proposed above, why not simply charge $5 cash or credit if one can't produce a receipt (paper or virtual). If $5 doesn't work, make it $10. The bottom line should be to collect the fare. Now, if the passenger can't produce the on-the-spot payment, then a fine from a cop or EAGLE member (or the discretion of either) should prevail. Side note related to your 'soapbox' statement - We're having a race here in Queens to pick the next District Attorney. Within the last few days, this race has gotten national attention. Let's see how the next Queens DA handles fare evasion cases (some candidates are more liberal/progressive-minded, one other is more law-and-order minded)....stay tuned.
  3. One more point on the topic of bus fare evasion regarding the SBS routes....If the EAGLE's should board and a passenger either doesn't have a working phone or OMNY pass (in the future), or lost their receipt, or simply didn't pay the fare, instead of a $100 fine, why not charge the passenger $5 on the spot - cash or credit. This way, we get the criminal element out of the way, and treat the (non)payment issues the way they would be treated on the LIRR or MNRR if a passenger doesn't have a ticket.
  4. The effectiveness depends upon a persons ethics and their ability to jump / climb. Now, if a loud alarm can sense a climber or jumper, then the fare gate would be even more effective. A loud piercing alarm might scare off some fare evaders.
  5. While I'm indifferent to the branding (SBS vs Limited), I have concerns about the EAGLE's searching people's phones for proof of payment. What if someone's smartphone dies enroute under the OMNY system....would the passenger get a fine when the EAGLE's 'swoop in'? Even with the railroads, if someone's phone should die, the passenger would simply pay a cash fare to the conductor as opposed to a $100 fine. The thing is, we need to tread carefully on how we use the technology and how the MTA goes about enforcing fare payment. It is for this reason (among others I've mentioned) that I'm against the multi-door boarding / pay before you board systems. For many years, NY was unique in having a system in place where payments were made at point of entry in the subway and on board the buses. It is hard to break old habits for some. I second that sentiment. There are many who haven't paid who simply might not have been caught, yet. Perhaps the mindset of New Yorkers would need to change back to one where it is shameful not to pay the fare (whatever the mode of transit).....maybe a bit of peer shaming (when deemed safe - it's a judgement call) would work, like in this classic PSA (Credit to trainluvr for posting this old PSA) -
  6. To paraphrase the Rolling Stones - You can't always get what you want, but sometimes you get what you need. For the longest time, LGA was lacking a rail connection. In a few years it will have some semblance of one without the use of eminent domain (which tends to overlap with NIMBY, a bit). The way I see it, any additional rail system that can be built circa 2020 is better than none. If NYC were starting from scratch, the extension of the N train or spur from the 7 train or LIRR to LGA would be ideal. However, that never happened and it can't happen now. The path of least resistance is to build the AirTrain where the city/state already owns the right of way. As for the concerns of exceeding maximum capacity that Scott Stringer raises, the MTA already has the Q70 hooking up with the subway in Jackson Heights and at Woodside. The MTA should keep the Q70 as the cheaper option, and allow the AirTrain to be used by those who wish to pay a bit more to use the LIRR. Is Mr. Stringer really concerned about the capacities of both the 7 train and the Port Washington Branch, or are his concerns more about the Port Washington Branch? I for one would welcome a direct connection from Northeastern Queens to LGA (I'm not too far from the PW Branch and use it quite often). I'm not too sure where other PW users sit with this concern (meaning, concerns about overcrowding). If Mr. Stringer is able to get more funding for additional LIRR rail cars or scheduled trips, and the rail line can tolerate it, I'm all for the expansion. Heck, if the train service could increased from 30 min off-peak to lets say 20 min, I'd really double down on the LGA AirTrain.
  7. @Deucey - Those are all valid points that you've raised. You're preaching to the choir. Perhaps its reasons like morality concerns, immaturity, and lack of decency that cause most transit agencies to prefer having ads from car dealerships and oatmilk producers. When I was in grade school, cigarette ads were all over the subway (I still recall the 'Alive with Pleasure' slogans). I also recall the ads for rum on the buses. Oh, and lets not forget about the Jordache Jeans ads. Rome didn't burn then, and it won't burn now. Let's see where this case ultimately goes. I'm kinda routing for Dame (the marital aid seller) on First Amendment grounds.
  8. Here's one way to reduce bus fare evasion: In the 80's and 90's, the bus driver simply wouldn't move the bus until are fares were paid. If someone were to sneak into the rear of the bus, the driver would either give the offending 'patron' the option to exit the bus, or the police would be called. While I understand there are safety concerns here, perhaps the drivers could do this if they determine the offending passenger to be non-threatening (I know this is a controversial point, but this is how it was done years ago, and it is how it is done in other American cities to this day). Here's another (which goes against the grain of most on the forum).....get rid of the SBS and the articulated bus. The moment I saw the multi-door boarding concept appear, I knew it would become an excuse for 'free rides' by some. Here is a link which speaks about the confusion of SBS and fare evasion - https://www.thelaw.com/law/pro-bono-my-mta-select-bus-service-fare-evasion-case.474/ FWIW, I also realize the fare evasion situation on local buses has gotten worse. I witnessed it on the Q46 on a Friday evening, and on the Q27 on a Saturday evening. In both instances, the driver would've been safe to tell the passengers to pay or otherwise de-board or await the arrival of the police. Hopefully OMNY will make it easier to pay for the rides in the absence of a farecard or coins.
  9. I disagree with this point. The time to stop fare evasions within the subway system is at the point of entry. There will be too many real world issue that pop up and turn average people into 'criminals' like lost or stolen OMNY cards, stolen phones, etc. Also, who will do this patrol - more EAGLEs? We should go back to the pre-9/11 days where the police patrolled the stations and kept an eye out for fare evaders. As for buses...well, I'll post that on the bus forum.....
  10. ...hhmm...not sure why I have a strikethough on part of my comment...maybe a political nature? Also, I meant to attach this link to support the comment...https://www.readingeagle.com/news/article/officials-react-to-possible-loss-of-bieber-bus-service-to-nyc-from-berks-county (now if only I can find the 'edit button'....I'll take any help or consolidation I can get). Thx, UFF.
  11. https://transbridgelines.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/End-of-Philadelphia-Service.pdf Trans-Bridge Lines to discontinue Philadelphia Service (a service originally run, in some capacity, by Bieber Tourways) It seems demand for service from the Lehigh Valley to Philadelphia is low and the Commonwealth of PA doesn't care to or is unable to subsidize the bus service. Here is a quote from a local politician in regards to Bieber ceasing all service in 2019 (starting with a ban from the PABT in July 2018)..... ....tate Rep. Gary Day, a Lehigh County Republican who represents part of Berks, including Kutztown, said that New York City should be paying Bieber to help bring people in from underserved areas of Pennsylvania. With a politician like Mr. Day making such an asinine statement, who needs any representatives like him? For all the faults of the MTA, or the complaints of my fellow commuters, at least we have transit services within the NYC metro area.
  12. Here is a slightly different case which is also related to the general 'testing' of the First Amendment.... https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/24/politics/supreme-court-fuct-first-amendment/index.html Based on this ruling, it seems that the US Supreme Court would be more inclined to support First Amendment rights over other 'ancillary' concerns or situations. While the points about a lack of maturity / sophistication among some members of the general public are of concern, doesn't it get to a point where the whole populace has to be treated as an infantile body? As for the pervs that cause trouble on mass transit, aren't there already laws on the books to lock up such creeps? If the MTA will have police enforce fare payment laws, why can't the additional police presence be used to deter / go after the pervs? Must every ad pass a sanctity test before being posted? How about fast food or soda ads...should we ban these too? People will see these ads and consume cardio-toxic, unappetizing slop (IMO). I used to see ads for credit unions on buses. I find these offensive.....https://www.crainsnewyork.com/markets/city-credit-unions-ex-ceo-sentenced-embezzling-10m In short, we're NYC and not Utah. Let's be the mature / sophisticated people we're supposed to be and allow the sex toy ads to appear in the proper places on mass transit, and go after the pervs and other trouble-makers that are actually causing problems for people.
  13. Although this thread is now a year old, it seems the tide has turned. Perhaps the MTA is against some sex toy ads, as indicated by this article..... http://fortune.com/2019/06/19/sex-toys-dame-mta-ads-lawsuit/ Is it legal for the MTA to block such ads? Probably not. Last I looked, we still have a First Amendment in place. Should the MTA use good sense in placing these ads in the some places rather than others? They should. The Museum of Sex ads were a flop because the ads were right at the front of the bus where several female bus operators were harassed by immature and disrespectful commuters. Maybe the ads should be at the rear of the bus, or if it can be done, wrapped onto a portion of some subway cars. Billboards at the subway or railroad stations should be ok. This is NYC after all. If ads for male virility products can be advertised, why not marital aids and the like? And for those who are concerned about children seeing such ads, and potential harassment that might come from the ads, keep in mind that NYC has seen much worse. When I was younger, I'd go with my parents and cousins to the circus at MSG, and wonder what the XXX store off in the distance was all about. I might've had a clue at 8 or 9 years old, but life went on. With ads for this and that, and bombardment about other topics in the 'news' (Kim Kardashian breaks the internet - that sort of thing), an ad for marital aids should be the least of anyone's worries. Besides, it could be couched as a safe sex practice, and the MTA could use the revenue from the ads. Win win.
  14. Wifi is a nice touch, but I use my own phone as a hot-spot. I like the USB ports, though. As for customer service on the weekends - well, they were at home (they could've handled that better). Perhaps the missing buses on the weekend were more of an issue on the QM1A (GO/NST interlining)? In the mid-90's / early 2000's the weekend service on the QM2 was fine. The QM2 and QM4 were interlined pretty well back then. I even recall a time when the QM4 driver picked up QM2 and QM4 passengers due to a missing QM2, dropped the QM4 passengers off first (lucky for everyone, all of the QM4 passengers were getting off near 164 st, and there was no traffic to speak of on any of the roadways), and then dropped passengers starting at Linden Place and the Whitestone Expwy.....all within about 40-45 min to get to Linden Place. The drivers who handled the evening QM2/4 weekend work new their regulars well, and we knew them. As I see you're "QM1", I'm also now on the Union Tpke corridor myself. As for the weekend service at present on the QM5/6, it's ok-ish. During the Midtown Tunnel rebuild a year or two ago, I tried the QM5 a couple of times on the weekend and found it to be either delayed, or missing due to a street fair (I'm thinking of this past Labor Day Weekend). To avoid any uncertainty on the weekends, I simply drive, walk, or take the Q27/Q76 up to Bayside / Auburndale and use the Port Washington Line. The City Ticket and a predictable schedule make it more appearing.....and its pretty fast.
  15. @paulrivera - As I see people like their SBS, I guess they're here to stay. What I do NOT like is when the MTA / DOT narrows the roadways and / or sidewalks to create the SBS bus stops. This is overkill. A popular example of this is on 34th St for the M34. The City should nit be taking away valuable curb spare or sidewalk space. Keep in mind, bus service in NYC existed long before the 60 ft buses arrived in NYC. Isn't that really a ploy to have less bus drivers? While I can't speak about the Bx12 as I've only been on Pelham Pkwy occasionally - headways of 2 min in rush hour should work with a normal size bus (40-45 ft). As for the Q44, the standard 40-45 ft buses worked fine for many years. It's the re-tooling of the streets for 'traffic-calming' purposes that cause the buses to run unreliably.

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