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Due to a power outage at Rockefeller Center at 1:00 AM, no trains can pass through. Remember, Brooklyn bound trains coming from the 8th Avenue local tracks cannot access the Manhattan Bridge.
Trains run in two sections:
205 St to 2 Av.
42 St-Bryant Park to Coney Island.
Trains run via the in both directions between Jackson Hts and West 4 St.
Extended to 21 St - Queensbridge to provide service to 63 St stations
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If the are both sent through CI, it could work. The northbound (D)s will get in the way of southbound trains, but it works during the very frequent ____-bound trains run via the and vice versa changes.
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Because I ride the route and you don't so I know personally how necessary they are and how the community has been hurt without the BM3 and I'm not the only one that has noticed this. Many people are selling their homes in Sheepshead Bay due to the transportation cuts.
First of all, who are you to be assuming what routes I ride or don't? For all you know, I could be a frequent rider of the 3 just like you.
Second, what happened to "And so? If the service is needed the will add it."
If the doesn't count farebeaters as passengers (and I'm saying this for the third or fourth time now since you're hard of reading) then maybe that is why they provide the service that they do. What part of that isn't clear to you??And yes I would reduce service. Why should the B46 get more service for a line with tons of farebeaters while other communities are left with no local bus service at all??
When did I say anything about them providing the service that they do? And if they don't count farebeaters, fine. If that were the case, why does the 46 run so frequently during rush hours?
And the B46 deserves the frequency it does because people use it. MTA's primary job is to provide service, not earn profit.
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There were BM3s going to the city on Saturdays until 22:20... Then they started putting up signs talking about how they're better serving us by reducing Manhattan bound express buses. Meanwhile the BM3 still come back to Sheepshead Bay until 00:00...
Avoiding the question as usual? If they took them away, they were obviously not useful. So why do you keep saying how necessary they were?
I don't call rampant farebeating "some people".... Like I said, if the doesn't count farebeaters as riders, then that could explain the "poor service" at that time, hence why I asked how many folks pay the fare. Leave it to you though to read what you want to read as usual.My point still holds. You would reduce service because of rampant farebeating? Then why even run B46s?
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And so? If the service is needed the will add it.
Then why aren't there afternoon/evening express buses (BM3s) going to Manhattan on Saturdays? If it's as needed as you say, they'd add it.
With the amount of farebeating on that line they should have less service whenever possible, stealing from the taxpayers. "Crowded" buses at 03:00 and how many of those folks actually "pay" for the ride?? If the doesn't count those riders as riders, well then that could be the answer.Providing little service because some people don't pay? Really? At that rate, the B46 would not exist in the first place. Not that that would affect you, of course...
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Maybe because the B46 is the busiest line in New York? The M15, for example, has 30 minute headways overnight.
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Yes, I forgot that one:
extended to Euclid Avenue and in the Rockaways operates as a round-robin to both Far Rockaway and Rockaway Park (the old late-night Rockaway ).
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A track fire at 36th Street-4th Avenue makes the station unusable in both directions. Trains can loop through Coney Island to minimize the need for shuttle bus service.
In the interest of minimizing and simplifying changes:
Run via Brighton Local, through Coney Island to 9 and 8 Av respectively.
Terminates at Atlantic-Barclays.
Terminates at Brighton Beach to not get in the way of the at Coney Island.
No service south of Atlantic-Barclays. TBH, a train from 59 to 95 St could be run, but it would be nearly useless.
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Due to a transformer blowing up, the power goes out on the President St to Flatbush Av, and the Parkside Av to Brighton Beach. No trains can pass Parkside Av on the Express, or they will lose power. Reroute accordingly.
After Chambers St, runs via the to Rector St, then reverses through Old South Ferry and returns uptown.
No service south of Bowling Green.
No trains south of 2 Av.
Trains run via the Atlantic Av to Coney Island, then up to Brighton Beach.
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Because of a flooding condition, Astor Place and 8 St are impassable (express tracks too). Let's see if anyone recognizes this (this actually happened, in a rather famous incident).
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My best guess would be single-track from 149 to 161 St. That doesn't sound like a good idea though.
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Uptown train derails on the switch between the express and local tracks north of 145 St. The uptown express and local tracks in that area are impassible.
No trains between 125 St and 168 St.
to Bedford Pk middays
No trains between 145 St and 168 St.
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Caution: The following solution uses logic, a concept that may quite possibly be foreign to some of you.
suspended
two sections: 205th to 34th - 36th Street (Brooklyn) to Coney Island
two sections: Astoria to Whitehall - Pacific to Coney Island
Prospect Park to Coney Island
two sections: Forest Hills to Whitehall - Pacific to Bay Ridge (express between Pacific and 36th)
My fault that I didn't make this clearer, but the tracks are unaffected.
My solution:
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Stop at Dekalb Av
Trains run local in Brooklyn
No trains between Whitehall and Pacific St.
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Due to broken fence near Tuskegee Airmen Depot, various buses and taxis fall into Metro-North train track.
In addition, there is stink bomb at 125th St and 149th St-Grand Concourse, and Fire Drill at Bloomingdale causing station closured at Lexington Av-59th St
125th St and 59th St-Lex Av impassable. Metro-North trains cannot pass Harlem-125th St either.
Affected ®/MNRR- Harlem/Hudson/New Haven Lines and few buses.
Bonus: Metro-North trains and Bx15/M60/M98/M101~M103 Both Direction; M31/M57 Westbound, Q32 Both Direction, various QM/BM/X buses. Buses cannot go near Bloomingdale or near Harlem-125th St.
MNR: Limited service, all trains operate to Yankees-153 St.
Extended to 149 St to provide extra service for passengers.
No trains between 42 St and 149 St.
Runs via the in Manhattan.
No trains south of 3 Av/138 St.
No trains between Queensboro Plaza and TImes Sq-42 St.
Terminates at Times Sq-42 St.
Runs via 63 St
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Because of a smoke condition at Dekalb Av, the tunnel and bypass tracks are impassable. Reroute, avoid exceeding 30tph, and NO FOAMING.
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runs via in both directions between W 4 St and 59 St
runs via in both directions between W 4 St and Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av
trains terminate at 34 St
trains run express between Canal St and 59 St in both directions
How would the fit on one track? And how would a downtown train, after running on 8 Av, get to the Manhattan Bridge?
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Extended to 149 St to provide extra service to Manhattan.
No trains south of 42 St. Some southbound trains terminate at 86 or 149 St.
Runs via the in Manhattan.
No trains south of 42 St. Some southbound trains terminate at 86 or 59 St.
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Because of a smoke condition, 47/50 St-Rockefeller Ctr is impassable.
EDIT: Gorgor:
" to Grand Central via LOCAL
via the between the Bronx and Brooklyn
to Grand Central "
Turning 40tph at Grand Central? That's impossible.
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I think that one track can handle more than 30tph... after all, if something happens on 7th Avenue the have no real problems going down Lex in the morning rush and I'm sure that's well over 30tph.
Anyways...
to 2nd Avenue. If my numbers are correct on the tph chart I made, that's 32tph which can be handled with minimal delays. If anything, just reduce train service or run them with the little delays.
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Grand Street station is closed and trains cannot pass through.
No foaming or all hell will break loose in my response.
If that were the case, why wouldn't the MTA just add or trains?
And I don't think that the to 2 Av would work. The MTA says that the Queens Bl express tracks are at capacity - that would mean the max out a track. Adding the would not work.
As for your scenario:
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Two sections: 205 St to 34 St and 57 St/7 Av to Coney Island. Transfer between trains at 34 St.
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A major smoke condition closes 23 St/8 Av.
Reroute the , taking tph into account.
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terminates at 18th Av
runs via the to Coney Island
terminate at Prospect Park
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A Manhattan bound train derailed at the Jay Street station.
No foaming or all hell will break loose in my response.
Assuming that only the Manhattan bound track is affected (if both tracks are unusable, the result is the same):
No trains south of the World Trade Center. If necessary, some trains relay via the middle track north of Chambers St.
Trains run in two sections:
.........207 St to Jay St track. Because the and combined are less than 30 tph, this should work. Trains relay via Bergen Lower or Church Av.
.........Queens to Hoyt-Schermerhorn St, every 15 minutes. Trains run as follows:
..................Westbound trains run local to Hoyt St.
..................Eastbound trains, after originating at Hoyt St, wrong rail to Lafayette Av on the Manhattan-bound express track, then via the crossovers to the eastbound express track. Trains run express to Utica Av, then local to Queens.
Additional trains operate between B'way Junction and Queens. Customers advised to use or service between Manhattan and Broadway Jct.
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Because of a switch problem, World Trade Center station is unusable - the and are not affected. Reroute the , being careful not to put more than 30 tph on one track.
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Impossible. I explained that the study showed the soil is not strong enough to connect the to the Nassau Street Line and the Montague Street Tunnel. The did a whole study on this and this proved impossible. Unless if you have some alien technology that humans don't know then it won't happen.
You guys have to remember that not all of Manhattan sits on land. Parts of the harbor was filled with trash, or soil to make room for more expansion. An example would be Battery Park City. These areas are not suitable to build tunnels in.
Do you have a link to this study?
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Yelling at each other to be more mature doesn't make you seem more mature.
Oh, and here's something thats REALISTIC.
Due to weekend track work, no trains can pass through 36 Street .
I'll avoid rerouting via the as that won't happen for weekend track work.
SO:
No trains between Pacific St and Coney Island.
Trains run through Coney Island to 9 Av .
No trains between Whitehall St and Coney Island.
Trains run through Coney Island to 8 Av .
No trains between Pacific St and 95 St,
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Sticking to the realism motif:
A switch malfunctions at West 4 St. As a result, no uptown local trains can travel pass the 8 Av level of West 4 St.
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Next: Due to a Daft Punk concert at MSG, the 7th ave line and 8th ave line (Local and express EACH) must all have 30tph. Re-route as needed, and cut service if necessary.
Interesting idea.
Here goes:
Runs express on 8 Av south of 59 St. Additional service operates between 168 St and Jay St.
Runs via the in both directions between Roosevelt Av and W4 St.
Runs via 63 St.
Runs via 7 Av in both directions (2+3+5=30 tph)
Additional service operates between Rector St (via S Ferry loop) and 137 St.
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The MTA is trying a new construction method. Therefore, directional running has been instituted on the 6 and 8 Av lines all weekend:
No southbound trains can run on 8 Av.
No northbound trains can run on 6 Av.
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STOP STOP STOP.
Can we all stop acting like we're two years old?
Re: Gorgor
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No trains can use the Queens Blvd express tracks between 36th Street and 65th Street. (That means you can use the switches between 65th and 74th) Please be aware that the cannot all fit on one track.
Runs local in Queens.
Runs local in Queens.
No trains between 71 Av and Queens Plaza. Reverses via middle track east of Queens Plaza.
No trains between 71 Av and Queens Plaza. Reverses via switch west of Queens Plaza.
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No trains can pass Roosevelt Island in either direction.
PS Can we PLEASE check our proposals on a track map? I've seen downtown 8 Av > Manhattan Bridge suggested so many times I lost count.
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Archer Av and the 63 St tunnel are the newest (except new South Ferry) segments of track now in service.
Secondly, who said the will only be 8-10 tph? It could be as much as 20 without causing significant problems with the .
Finally, IMHO if they can get the to go to Brooklyn relatively cheaply, they should. Brooklyn is a huge market for the .
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Can we stop bickering already:
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Because of a structural failure, all four express tracks at 34 St-Herald Sq cannot be used (as a safety precaution).
Local tracks are unaffected, but no trains can stop at 34 St-Herald Sq.
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That thing is ancient. 72 St is now two tracks, not four.
57 St is now 55 St and 48 St is now 42 St.
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There was no skip stop in Midtown, so there would have been the same number of trains per hour traveling at the same speed.
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The would not have helped at all, since the total frequency was the same.
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Is it really that difficult to remember?
If you look at the track map, there is no one place where a train could be such that it would block all train movement. It's a flying junction.