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Designline Fails on M60

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Saturday morning the Designline bus #1302 began a test run on the M60. The operator reported the that the Bus could not maintain speed on the many hills on that line.

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I hate when stuff like this is posted, now we never going to see the end of it for "Ohh new buses suck, hybrids suck" blah blah blah.

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Saturday morning the Designline bus #1302 began a test run on the M60. The operator reported the that the Bus could not maintain speed on the many hills on that line.

 

I wish they just used conventional RTS buses and Orion V's and not these weird hybrids.

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I wish they just used conventional RTS buses and Orion V's and not these weird hybrids.
Those do not look good for tourist coming from the airport.

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According to BusChat it's because the regenerative brakes don't generate enough energy to get over the bridge with a lot of speed. It's no big deal, since this would only be a problem with the M60 and B39. Every other bus in the city is a stop-and-go route.

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Those do not look good for tourist coming from the airport.

 

What would be nice is if they had luggage racks on the lower section of the hybrids and keep them mainly for the M60 route. but I don't believe tourists will care what bus shows up so long as they get to where they need to go. But yes newer is nice.

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I wish they just used conventional RTS buses and Orion V's and not these weird hybrids.

 

You need to get used to the hybrids. They aren't that bad, I ride them almost everyday and the ride is pretty smooth. The main problem is people not moving to the back of the bus and fewer seats.

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Or, they could install the next larger size Capstone microturbine and see if that will work along with a stronger generator and additional batteries if necessary.

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What would be nice is if they had luggage racks on the lower section of the hybrids and keep them mainly for the M60 route. but I don't believe tourists will care what bus shows up so long as they get to where they need to go. But yes newer is nice.
You would be surprised, many tourists feel more welcome if the transportation system is up to date. I am not talking about busfans but people in general love the new buses over the old buses. Same for customers with the R160s/R143s/R142s over the older models in trains. People also enjoy vintage buses that brings up memories. But tourists from what I've seen take more pictures of new buses compared to RTS and Orion V.

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How steep is the bridge incline? This will likely determine the Designline's ability to perform in hilly environments.

 

Don't expect to see them in the Bronx or SI if hills cause problems with it

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Don't expect to see them in the Bronx or SI if hills cause problems with it
Especially the Verrazano Bridge.

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Antelope, outside of LA is ordering Designline buses, but with a Capstone C65 instead of the C30 like the ones in the MTA version. The C65, I guess allows the bus to deal with hills.

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What would be nice is if they had luggage racks on the lower section of the hybrids and keep them mainly for the M60 route. but I don't believe tourists will care what bus shows up so long as they get to where they need to go. But yes newer is nice.

 

I think they have ex-Command CNG Express Bus, and also borrow some Bee-Line Orion 5 equipment that used on Bee-Line Airlink to operate for M60, Q33, Q48, Q47, Q72, Q3, Q10, B15 buses.

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ahh tht bus #1302 suks . my friends dad wurks at mjq nd he sed he drove tht bus to the roof & its slow cuz theres a hill

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Those do not look good for tourist coming from the airport.

 

Buses with aisles that are too small and/or narrow for their luggage is not a good look for tourists either, which unfortunately is the case for the hybrids.

 

IMHO, the Designline is a terrible bus for the M60 so I find it quite amusing that it failed on that line.

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