unclephil Posted September 27, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 27, 2009 Saturday morning the Designline bus #1302 began a test run on the M60. The operator reported the that the Bus could not maintain speed on the many hills on that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 27, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 27, 2009 I hate when stuff like this is posted, now we never going to see the end of it for "Ohh new buses suck, hybrids suck" blah blah blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 27, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 27, 2009 Hate it or not, it is still news. At worse it just means these buses won't run on the bridges perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted September 27, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 27, 2009 Saturday morning the Designline bus #1302 began a test run on the M60. The operator reported the that the Bus could not maintain speed on the many hills on that line. I wish they just used conventional RTS buses and Orion V's and not these weird hybrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 27, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 27, 2009 I wish they just used conventional RTS buses and Orion V's and not these weird hybrids.Those do not look good for tourist coming from the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted September 27, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 27, 2009 According to BusChat it's because the regenerative brakes don't generate enough energy to get over the bridge with a lot of speed. It's no big deal, since this would only be a problem with the M60 and B39. Every other bus in the city is a stop-and-go route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 27, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 27, 2009 Those do not look good for tourist coming from the airport. What would be nice is if they had luggage racks on the lower section of the hybrids and keep them mainly for the M60 route. but I don't believe tourists will care what bus shows up so long as they get to where they need to go. But yes newer is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 27, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 27, 2009 I wish they just used conventional RTS buses and Orion V's and not these weird hybrids. You need to get used to the hybrids. They aren't that bad, I ride them almost everyday and the ride is pretty smooth. The main problem is people not moving to the back of the bus and fewer seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted September 27, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 27, 2009 Or, they could install the next larger size Capstone microturbine and see if that will work along with a stronger generator and additional batteries if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 27, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 27, 2009 What would be nice is if they had luggage racks on the lower section of the hybrids and keep them mainly for the M60 route. but I don't believe tourists will care what bus shows up so long as they get to where they need to go. But yes newer is nice.You would be surprised, many tourists feel more welcome if the transportation system is up to date. I am not talking about busfans but people in general love the new buses over the old buses. Same for customers with the R160s/R143s/R142s over the older models in trains. People also enjoy vintage buses that brings up memories. But tourists from what I've seen take more pictures of new buses compared to RTS and Orion V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 27, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 27, 2009 Hem, that's true. How about the luggage rack idea? I've always felt the overhead space on the lower level is wasted and would be better used especially for the airport bus lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted September 28, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 28, 2009 How steep is the bridge incline? This will likely determine the Designline's ability to perform in hilly environments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43 Floral Park Posted September 28, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 28, 2009 How steep is the bridge incline? This will likely determine the Designline's ability to perform in hilly environments. Don't expect to see them in the Bronx or SI if hills cause problems with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous85 Posted September 28, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 28, 2009 I hope this doesn't have an effect on the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 28, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 28, 2009 Don't expect to see them in the Bronx or SI if hills cause problems with itEspecially the Verrazano Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darpavader Posted September 28, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 28, 2009 Antelope, outside of LA is ordering Designline buses, but with a Capstone C65 instead of the C30 like the ones in the MTA version. The C65, I guess allows the bus to deal with hills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darpavader Posted September 28, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 28, 2009 oops, here's the link: http://www.microturbine.com/news/download.asp?article=40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted September 28, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 28, 2009 What would be nice is if they had luggage racks on the lower section of the hybrids and keep them mainly for the M60 route. but I don't believe tourists will care what bus shows up so long as they get to where they need to go. But yes newer is nice. I think they have ex-Command CNG Express Bus, and also borrow some Bee-Line Orion 5 equipment that used on Bee-Line Airlink to operate for M60, Q33, Q48, Q47, Q72, Q3, Q10, B15 buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 28, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 28, 2009 But CNG buses are not going to run on the M60. And the Bee line buses are all going to MTA Bus. So only the Q10 might have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciboii22 Posted September 28, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 28, 2009 ahh tht bus #1302 suks . my friends dad wurks at mjq nd he sed he drove tht bus to the roof & its slow cuz theres a hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted September 28, 2009 Share #21 Posted September 28, 2009 Those do not look good for tourist coming from the airport. Buses with aisles that are too small and/or narrow for their luggage is not a good look for tourists either, which unfortunately is the case for the hybrids. IMHO, the Designline is a terrible bus for the M60 so I find it quite amusing that it failed on that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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