EE Broadway Local Posted October 11, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 11, 2009 I've noticed the and trains share a schedule (paper and internet) and this has got me thinking: Should other subway schedules be combined where two trains share the same or parallel tracks in two or more boroughs? I actually like the and shared schedule. It's good since the and share tracks between Lower East Side-Second Avenue and 47th-50th Streets-Rockerfeller Center and parallel tracks between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills (with a tiny exception where the triangulates). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted October 11, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 11, 2009 and share a timetable too, and used to. It makes sense when service is very very similar, and its companion route is a part time line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted October 11, 2009 Share #3 Posted October 11, 2009 I think the and should also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted October 11, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 11, 2009 ( should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAA89 Posted October 11, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 11, 2009 They should definitely incorporate the Rockaway Park shuttle's schedule into the train's schedule, since it is in effect a part of the running shorter trains. The Lefferts Boulevard late-night shuttle is already in the schedule. The Franklin Avenue shuttle doesn't quite fit into any schedule. The 42nd St shuttle should probably be squeezed into the (7)'s schedule, since its route overlaps with the in Manhattan. The could perhaps be fit into the schedules, since they run a common line for most of the (M)'s route, and on weekends and late nights the is just a shuttle feeding into the at Myrtle Avenue. The should definitely be folded into the same schedule as the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted October 11, 2009 Share #6 Posted October 11, 2009 The 42nd St shuttle should probably be squeezed into the (7)'s schedule, since its route overlaps with the in Manhattan. But they don't run on tracks that connect to each other. They're completely separated. I don't think it would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted October 11, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 11, 2009 and is already merged: http://mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/tacur.pdf Tho only in the map.. Same for : http://mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/thcur.pdf And wow they use for the thcur name. tacur for They should definitely incorporate the Rockaway Park shuttle's schedule into the train's schedule, since it is in effect a part of the running shorter trains. The Lefferts Boulevard late-night shuttle is already in the schedule. The Franklin Avenue shuttle doesn't quite fit into any schedule. The 42nd St shuttle should probably be squeezed into the (7)'s schedule, since its route overlaps with the in Manhattan. The could perhaps be fit into the schedules, since they run a common line for most of the (M)'s route, and on weekends and late nights the is just a shuttle feeding into the at Myrtle Avenue. The should definitely be folded into the same schedule as the . @Luis >> http://mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/tjcur.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted October 11, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 11, 2009 But they don't run on tracks that connect to each other. They're completely separated. I don't think it would work. Yea, but it's nice to see them paired on a scedule especially since the terminal is moving from tsq for the . - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted October 11, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 11, 2009 Yea, but it's nice to see them paired on a scedule especially since the terminal is moving from tsq for the . - A I still don't see the point. They don't share tracks, the cars don't even come from the same yard, and the point you just made shows that there's even less of a reason for them to share schedules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted October 11, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 11, 2009 I still don't see the point. They don't share tracks, the cars don't even come from the same yard, and the point you just made shows that there's even less of a reason for them to share schedules. Even tho they dont share tracks, they both make the same stops except 5th ave which is the Flushing line. Tho it could also be a waste of time and space.. Where would the timetable be placed...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted October 11, 2009 Share #11 Posted October 11, 2009 Even tho they dont share tracks, they both make the same stops except 5th ave which is the Flushing line. Tho it could also be a waste of time and space.. Where would the timetable be placed...? True true... does the even need a schedule? It's just two stops. What I'm saying is, they don't interline. The rest of the lines that have been mentioned in this thread do. If they don't interline, I don't see the point of having them share schedules. Look at the OP's original post, even. where two trains share the same or parallel tracks The and don't fall under this category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted October 11, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 11, 2009 If people want to get to GCT and not take a crowded it'd be nice to know the schedule. Same with the other direction. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted October 11, 2009 Share #13 Posted October 11, 2009 Funny that you mentioned, the has its own: http://mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/t0cur.pdf For only 2 stops? Please.... Its more of a 1-2 min wait, Around 10PM-12AM, like a 5min wait since Track 3 is used. When isnt running due to a G/o, late nights its like 10-20min wait.. But anyways, does track have to cound for this? I mean, even if the line does the same stops? True true... does the even need a schedule? It's just two stops. What I'm saying is, they don't interline. The rest of the lines that have been mentioned in this thread do. If they don't interline, I don't see the point of having them share schedules. Look at the OP's original post, even. The and don't fall under this category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted October 11, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 11, 2009 If people want to get to GCT and not take a crowded it'd be nice to know the schedule. Same with the other direction. - A I've taken the before. There's always a train in the station, at least on the GCT side. And the one that's packed is the next one leaving. And because it's only two stops, the next train is never far away. Perhaps it does merit its own schedule, but point still stands that they should not combine schedules. Plus the fact that there are so many trains leaving on both lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted October 11, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 11, 2009 The only legit timetable merger I can think of is the because basically the compliments the in Queens and Manhattan, and goes to Lower Manhattan while the goes on the bridge. When the doesn't run, the picks up the slack making local stops in Manhattan up to Canal Street. Late nights, it goes via the Whitehall St tunnel, making the literally (W)'s normal route during late nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted October 12, 2009 Share #16 Posted October 12, 2009 ( They split up too far in Brooklyn. Now, when they only went to 34th, definitely yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted October 12, 2009 Share #17 Posted October 12, 2009 The only legit timetable merger I can think of is the because basically the compliments the in Queens and Manhattan, and goes to Lower Manhattan while the goes on the bridge. When the doesn't run, the picks up the slack making local stops in Manhattan up to Canal Street. Late nights, it goes via the Whitehall St tunnel, making the literally (W)'s normal route during late nights Plus, was in the early 80s according to my maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted October 12, 2009 Share #18 Posted October 12, 2009 They split up too far in Brooklyn. Now, when they only went to 34th, definitely yes. I agree with you here. The and the sharing a terminal would make the greatest of sense since they basically serve the same number of stations, just like the and the . Basically, a full-time line and a weekday line that share the common route for an extended period of time wold be best to have in one timetable instead of two. This is why I'm not too sure about putting the and the together. The is a daytime line (all times except late nights) and I think there would be too much information to cram into one timetable for both the and the . Plus, was in the early 80s according to my maps Except that the back then ran only during rush hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAA89 Posted October 12, 2009 Share #19 Posted October 12, 2009 Mark1447, Metsfan & 7Line Fan: I only ever said the 42nd St shuttle's schedule might possibly be squeezed into the . You don't have to take it so seriously. I agree that since they don't interline it wouldn't make much sense, and while Metsfan's point about choosing one or the other is valid, hardly anyone ever consults timetables, especially for the 42nd St . I would conclude that it's probably fine the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted October 14, 2009 Share #20 Posted October 14, 2009 They split up too far in Brooklyn. Now, when they only went to 34th, definitely yes. good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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