Grand Concourse Posted July 15, 2010 Share #51 Posted July 15, 2010 The A/c's are being fixed by nova specialist because its under warranty and once its fixed the NF Artics going back to Queens. Good to know. technically they were just there for testing, not like they were there for that long. Questions to busfanners: 1.Do u kno anything why CP and LGA switched routes like CP: Q19 and Q38 LGA:Q67, Q100, Q101, Q102, Q103, Q104 2. In Fall 2009, why does the QBx1 needs to go to Eastchester Depot?? Probably to get certain routes closer to the depots since they no longer were part of different agencies. But I think originally the idea was to make LGA all local and CP mostly express buses only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 15, 2010 Share #52 Posted July 15, 2010 I Blame the MTA for messing up those ex-bee line buses, BP should have gotten more RTS instead of the ex-bee line buses or gotten more OG's or New NG's, and gave those Orions to Far Rockaway and JFK. BP has tons of RTS parts and No orion Parts, It made no sence to give them those Orions, I liked 413 and 244 way better than these ex-bee line buses. Didn't you say that you wanted the ex-BL buses there? Oh well much as I wanted them at FR, I'm glad they didn't end up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share #53 Posted July 15, 2010 Didn't you say that you wanted the ex-BL buses there? Oh well much as I wanted them at FR, I'm glad they didn't end up there. Yeah but I didn't know they were to whipeout all the RTS, They should have went to JFK, But I put all the Blame on the MTA for messing with these buses before service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 15, 2010 Share #54 Posted July 15, 2010 Well unless LGA really banged up those 9300s, I think those should be moved to BP and BP end back their O5s and hybrids to LGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted July 15, 2010 Share #55 Posted July 15, 2010 Yup, pretty much correct.I never understood why when MTA Bus got JBL, they moved the ex-NYCT RTSs there than to keep the JBL buses there and move a few that were no longer needed for express service and send LGA and the ex-GL depots the ex-NYCT buses. Because the buses that were at Green Lines and Triboro Coach were in much worse shape. A good deal of those buses were towed up to the ECH graveyard in the days before MTA takeover and never ran under MTA Bus. And to think now, the only inherited buses still left are the O5s (diesel and CNG) and the six MCIs from NYBS. 3505 is at Baisley Park indeed, mislabeled for New York City Bus, but with BP stickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share #56 Posted July 15, 2010 Well unless LGA really banged up those 9300s, I think those should be moved to BP and BP end back their O5s and hybrids to LGA. BP is keeping the hybirds, They need those buses, The Orion V's should go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockParkH Posted July 15, 2010 Share #57 Posted July 15, 2010 I Blame the MTA for messing up those ex-bee line buses, BP should have gotten more RTS instead of the ex-bee line buses or gotten more OG's or New NG's, and gave those Orions to Far Rockaway and JFK. BP has tons of RTS parts and No orion Parts, It made no sence to give them those Orions, I liked 413 and 244 way better than these ex-bee line buses. I didn't understand why they sent them to BP too, they could have sent them to JFK and FRD but I guess it was a "demand" for the BeeLine O5s to go to BP (id give them 2-4 more years at BP then off to scrap) And a 1 question why didn't they give the JFK rejects to BP and send the Ex BLs to FRD and JFK or the rejects to FRD and the O7s from FRD to BP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 16, 2010 Share #58 Posted July 16, 2010 JFK and FR are already short as it is and you want to burden them with those time bombs? = Also as for LGA, you can't send all those O5s for the RTS. That's why it must be a few hybrids sent to: balance the fleet age at LGA and to ensure there are a few working units if those O5s craps out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockParkH Posted July 16, 2010 Share #59 Posted July 16, 2010 I understand what you are saying, but I mean FRD already has crappy maintenence so they could have sent the rejects to them and let them die already ( I guess this does sound stupid) .... I really can't see this happening since you put it that way.... but aren't the "Galaxys" supposed to be handed down to MTA Bus? what depots are on the list for them? I could imagine them at BP and LGA, idk about FRD =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 16, 2010 Share #60 Posted July 16, 2010 They may have crappy maintenence, but even they need all the hybrids they can use. If you mean the artics, as far as i've read, like everyone else, i think the idea would be to send them to BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted July 16, 2010 Share #61 Posted July 16, 2010 LGA is already beating the crap outta the Ex Bee Lines. the Nova RTS are doing very well at LGA. The same with that hybrid crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share #62 Posted July 19, 2010 I didn't understand why they sent them to BP too, they could have sent them to JFK and FRD but I guess it was a "demand" for the BeeLine O5s to go to BP (id give them 2-4 more years at BP then off to scrap) And a 1 question why didn't they give the JFK rejects to BP and send the Ex BLs to FRD and JFK or the rejects to FRD and the O7s from FRD to BP? Those ex-bee lines are giving both BP and LGA so much trouble that its not even funny, come on 5 buses OOS at BP, I don't know how many at LGA plus their shitty mantanice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted July 19, 2010 Share #63 Posted July 19, 2010 Well last time i took a spin at LGA, I counted at least 4 NGs out with writings on the front windows, 2 Ex-Bee-Line buses being out 122-No A/C & we all know about 133. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted July 19, 2010 Share #64 Posted July 19, 2010 Theres about 8+ 100s having problems about 4 have messed up bellows. They are leaning to the left and or right. It isnt looking good for these buses. quite a few of them have O/S written on the windshields for various defects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share #65 Posted July 21, 2010 And while on the Q113 I saw 3 NG's from JFK going into Basiley Park depot, one was 4169,4140 and 465x. I have photos as well and I will post them as soon as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted July 21, 2010 Share #66 Posted July 21, 2010 This does NOT sound good at all. Interesting BP gets help from another depot. LGA gets.................nothing at all Very unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share #67 Posted July 21, 2010 They need to get rid of those Orion V's already and bring back the RTS out ECH, Damn the MTA is f**king stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 21, 2010 Share #68 Posted July 21, 2010 So get LGA to send their 9300s to BP and have BP send an equal number of hybrids and O5s* back to LGA then. *ratio must be 1:1 for fleet age balance and so that LGA has workable buses. It' can't be a one sided benefit where BP sends all their O5s to LGA. Plus most of you expected at least 2 years from those buses, so why the surprise? At the time it was hell of a lot cheaper than to buy more NGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 21, 2010 Share #69 Posted July 21, 2010 They may have crappy maintenence, but even they need all the hybrids they can use. If you mean the artics, as far as i've read, like everyone else, i think the idea would be to send them to BP. What I never understood, was why the hell they took the artics away from BP in the first place! I thought they were doing just fine over there. Some of the 1000's have already been retired. Hopefully the remaining ones at ECH go to MTAB. They need to get rid of those Orion V's already and bring back the RTS out ECH, Damn the MTA is f****** stupid. Right. They need to rehab, and pull out my 8600's!! They are only 16 years old. They can take a a few more beatings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 21, 2010 Share #70 Posted July 21, 2010 I don't think they were meant to stay there. This was well before the new order of Novas came. Now I think eventually the older artics might be sent to Queens. [As soon as the Novas have their a/cs fixed]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 21, 2010 Share #71 Posted July 21, 2010 I don't think they were meant to stay there. This was well before the new order of Novas came. Now I think eventually the older artics might be sent to Queens. [As soon as the Novas have their a/cs fixed]. Yeah, they were only there for a trial basis. (5347-5351) I just think they could have left them there, or sent 1000-1004 to stay there permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 21, 2010 Share #72 Posted July 21, 2010 Well I think there was a need for them more in the Bronx and manhattan plus since all the parts are there than to add another depot to keep parts on hand. Now with the influx of the Novas, the NF buses can be sent out. I do think the NFs should run on the Q44, but BP probably needs them more to replace the O5 [bLs] that are crapping out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted July 21, 2010 Share #73 Posted July 21, 2010 Exactly the Artics that did show up worked except that out of that trial batch only 2 were used a lot the others wasn't. And we will see what happens in a few more months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted July 21, 2010 Share #74 Posted July 21, 2010 LGA better not be sending a damn thing to UP if they do then UP should send something in return. Both BP & LGA are having trouble with the Bees. ECH storage and call it a day. Replace them with the ECH storage RTSs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted July 22, 2010 Share #75 Posted July 22, 2010 LGA better not be sending a damn thing to UP if they do then UP should send something in return. Both BP & LGA are having trouble with the Bees. ECH storage and call it a day. Replace them with the ECH storage RTSs. Ulmer Park, which has an even older average fleet age, is getting buses from ECH storage. The MTA was hoping for 2 years out of the 100s; I wonder if the MTA will get even one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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