N-Trizzy2609 Posted October 25, 2010 Share #1 Posted October 25, 2010 Welcome to the NJ Transit side of Elizabeth, NJ. Great action and great K5LAs (With a few AA-2 too). Excuse some of the photos as this is not my camera. My camera was getting fixed. The original CNJ Raritan Valley Line station at Elizabeth. :njc: to NY. Overly zoomed photo of ALP-46A 4647 :nec: Express to Trenton. :njc: Long Branch Local. :nec: 7600 Series train from Rahway. ALP-46A 4631 on the :njc: to NY. :ac: yard move. :nec: Express going about 90 mph. :nec: Local to Trenton Newark Penn ALP-46A #4646 trails a :njc: train. Newark Broad Street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Express Posted October 25, 2010 Share #2 Posted October 25, 2010 Nice Pics:tup: BTW...the weekend Rahway Trains are 7600 series, 6700 series is reserved for weekend Midtown Direct service on the :me: gladstone branch, if it were to ever operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted October 25, 2010 Share #3 Posted October 25, 2010 Nice photos. Note the right of way for the old CNJ line is preserved for quite a distance. Just a heads up, NJT rail operations has no train operators, that's the bus/LRV operations. NJT rail has federally licensed engineers. Never refer to an engineer as a train operator, it's insulting, it takes years of studying routes and classroom and walking the tracks and riding in the cab to qualify on all of (NJT)'s possible moves. As a good friend of mine said, a T/O for who i see on (NJT) all the time, T/O is a job/career, engineer is a way of life. And, you think a 12/9 is bad at 30-50 mph, try 80-135. If a train is acting up it could be any number of things, stuck brake, bad yaw damper on a truck, funky air behavior, door indicator malfunction causing slow acceleration etc. Also, the heavy main line rail equipment is far more heavy (weight) and procedures and mechanisms are different. For instance, if the train is having locomotive push and the cab car has fresh brakes and the other cars have worn in brakes, it will cause the cars in between the cab & loco move together causing some noise and drama but is totally normal, normally the loco has a much higher braking capability, and usually, if they are coming in hot they will put the loco brakes on full first with plenty of sand and traction control working to maintain adhesion then let the railcar brakes slow it completely since there are usually far more braking axles unless it's just one car which isn't typical. The arrow 3 multiple units work a bit differently since every car is providing traction, when they hit the brakes they can put on dynamic brakes to take the edge off then use air brakes to slow it 100%. In an emergency overhead line power out situation, the dynamic brakes can provide HEP till about 2-3 mph. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted October 25, 2010 Just a heads up, NJT rail operations has no train operators, that's the bus/LRV operations. NJT rail has federally licensed engineers. Never refer to an engineer as a train operator, it's insulting, it takes years of studying routes and classroom and walking the tracks and riding in the cab to qualify on all of (NJT)'s possible moves. As a good friend of mine said, a T/O for who i see on (NJT) all the time, T/O is a job/career, engineer is a way of life. And, you think a 12/9 is bad at 30-50 mph, try 80-135. If a train is acting up it could be any number of things, stuck brake, bad yaw damper on a truck, funky air behavior, door indicator malfunction causing slow acceleration etc. Also, the heavy main line rail equipment is far more heavy (weight) and procedures and mechanisms are different. For instance, if the train is having locomotive push and the cab car has fresh brakes and the other cars have worn in brakes, it will cause the cars in between the cab & loco move together causing some noise and drama but is totally normal, normally the loco has a much higher braking capability, and usually, if they are coming in hot they will put the loco brakes on full first with plenty of sand and traction control working to maintain adhesion then let the railcar brakes slow it completely since there are usually far more braking axles unless it's just one car which isn't typical. - A Excuse the T/O-Engineer misconception but no Andy, I think it was something mechanical. Ask Mark1447, he was on the train with me, the train keep jerking and bucking everytime it pulled in and out of a station. You had to see the amount of horn he used to enter stations. A bit too horn happy. And whenever the train released it's brake it typical normal to see it goes a few inches backwards. This train was going FEET backwards before it jerk and buck forward. All the equipment was fine cept a small flat spot on the wheel of my Comet IV. Comet V 6037 was leading and a brand new ALP-46A the only thing I can think of is either the engineer was new or training, or EVERY Comet on the train just decide to jerk and buck. OMG, when he hit the brakes coming into the airport some people who were standing did get knocked a bit tipsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted October 25, 2010 Share #5 Posted October 25, 2010 Nice photos man. BTW, that NEC Express with Arrows could not have been doing 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT Bronx Express Posted October 25, 2010 Share #6 Posted October 25, 2010 Excellent images :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregorygrice Posted October 25, 2010 Share #7 Posted October 25, 2010 Great photos! NJT Rocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted October 25, 2010 Share #8 Posted October 25, 2010 I saw these Beasts at the Trenton station and I have to admit , They are big badboys that look soo sweet ... Horn happy lol huh I hear that .These look great they do but 90 mph ....? What is the top speed to the DoubleDecker BMBDrs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted October 26, 2010 Share #9 Posted October 26, 2010 Excuse the T/O-Engineer misconception but no Andy, I think it was something mechanical. Ask Mark1447, he was on the train with me, the train keep jerking and bucking everytime it pulled in and out of a station. You had to see the amount of horn he used to enter stations. A bit too horn happy. And whenever the train released it's brake it typical normal to see it goes a few inches backwards. This train was going FEET backwards before it jerk and buck forward. All the equipment was fine cept a small flat spot on the wheel of my Comet IV. Comet V 6037 was leading and a brand new ALP-46A the only thing I can think of is either the engineer was new or training, or EVERY Comet on the train just decide to jerk and buck. OMG, when he hit the brakes coming into the airport some people who were standing did get knocked a bit tipsy. Mmmm, only thing i can think of is that 4647 has been having some issues, when it was testing it dumped the air going through secaucus at 95 mph. I think the brake controller must have been funked up on its over-sea journey or something. As far as feet backwards, i've been on trains that drifted up to 15 feet back, i was told by the engineer when he got out at newark to go on break (swapped out with new) that he did that to let the brakes release completely before accelerating. I've also been on trains where the slack in the cars kept playing out then bunching up somewhat jarringly. Keep in mind that railcars can have different wear levels on the brakes and wheel treads so the retarding force of the brakes come in at different times. You should ride a bit more frequently i think. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share #10 Posted November 14, 2010 Photos In Motion. Filmed by Mark1447. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted November 14, 2010 Share #11 Posted November 14, 2010 lol, for a second i thought u made a video But yeh i didnt added it to my photo collection: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24534 But Great shots man and hanging with ya.. Another day is up! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCAT 65 Posted November 20, 2010 Share #12 Posted November 20, 2010 Nice photos man. BTW, that NEC Express with Arrows could not have been doing 90. Especially through Elizabeth where there is a SEVERE speed restriction, down to about 50mph, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted November 20, 2010 Share #13 Posted November 20, 2010 Especially through Elizabeth where there is a SEVERE speed restriction, down to about 50mph, IIRC. They re-aligned the tracks, so it's more like 55 on 1 and 4, and more like 65 on 2 and 3. It used to be 45 for all 4 based on what i've read online, this was before the re-alignment & before the tie replacement & superelevation on 2 and 3. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted November 20, 2010 Share #14 Posted November 20, 2010 Especially through Elizabeth where there is a SEVERE speed restriction, down to about 50mph, IIRC. And also the fact the Arrows can't do more than 80. You and I both know it when the train just shuns and it knows it can do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted November 24, 2010 Share #15 Posted November 24, 2010 Nice shots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberider Posted November 24, 2010 Share #16 Posted November 24, 2010 Nice photos, interesting variety of equipment, and well-maintained ROW! Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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