Grand Concourse Posted February 12, 2013 Share #1176 Posted February 12, 2013 No, that's what the 7 and qb lines are for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share #1177 Posted February 15, 2013 How about after subway service in the Rockaways is restored, the Q22 permanently operates between Mott Av and 116 St overnights. It negates having to travel to Broad Channel to travel across the peninsula 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q64Extention Posted February 15, 2013 Share #1178 Posted February 15, 2013 I think that Q17 service should be fixed on the weekends. Every other or every third 17 going to/from Flushing should short turn at HHE and 188th Street, similar to what the Q27 does. This is because one problem with the 17 is that it gets absolutely packed on Kissena and practically empty on 188th. Also, it clumps in threes and fours on 188th Street all the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1179 Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) if there were cutbacks that needed to be made i deleted the Q47 from the 74th street terminal to compensate that i cut the q53 back to 74th street terminal if political pressure needed the q47 at the 74th street terminal the q47 reroute would be scrapped and the q49 would be deleted from the 74th street terminal and extended to the old q53 terminal thoughts and comments q47 deleted from 74th street terminal to make room for the q53 reroute https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=218345366120084192601.0004d5e95af38120b0557 q49 reroute to replace the q53 https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=218345366120084192601.0004d5e9c0b1c67455ba2 q53 cutback https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=218345366120084192601.0004d5e98b47945f38459 Edited February 17, 2013 by BreeddekalbL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1180 Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) why would you base the b26 out of jackie gleason ? the north terminal is in fresh pond territory The B26 would be based from Jackie Gleason instead Edited February 17, 2013 by BreeddekalbL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1181 Posted February 17, 2013 why would you base the b26 out of jackie gleason ? the north terminal is in fresh pond territory Under my proposal, the Q88 runs to Fresh Pond and Metropolitan Avenue, so it would need a lot of buses, considering its headways and length (Q88 still won't be the longest route in the system). To make room, the B7 would go ENY which has enough buses to do that, and the B26 would go to JG. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1182 Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) Under my proposal, the Q88 runs to Fresh Pond and Metropolitan Avenue, so it would need a lot of buses, considering its headways and length (Q88 still won't be the longest route in the system). To make room, the B7 would go ENY which has enough buses to do that, and the B26 would go to JG. first where would your q88 be based out of? oh i see you would kick the b26 out of FP to go to gleason but if im not mistaken doesn't gleason have a bus and cng shortage Edited February 17, 2013 by BreeddekalbL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1183 Posted February 17, 2013 first where would your q88 be based out of? oh i see you would kick the b26 out of FP to go to gleason but if im not mistaken doesn't gleason have a bus and cng shortage So than the B26 can go to GA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1184 Posted February 17, 2013 So than the B26 can go to GA. that can work.. see what you think of my plans i posted on the last page on the bottom (to please everyone i deleted combining the b68 and the b74 cause that seemed very bad) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1185 Posted February 17, 2013 I wouldn't change the current Q47 route or set-up at all. The Q49 to Woodside I'm neutral about, because that would be duplicative to the Q32 and the . I wouldn't cut the Q53 from Woodside completely. I would make every other bus serve Woodside, because the Q53 lacks ridership between Woodside and Jackson Heights. Service past 10 PM is not needed from Jackson Heights to Woodside, based on the multiple times I take an evening Q47 at 10 PM, which indeed does get SRO. Also, I think the Q38 can get a decrease in running times. Weekdays, the 12:15 AM trip to Rego Park and the 12:00 AM trip to Corona should get cut. Saturdays, trips after 10:01 PM to Corona and trips after 10:46 PM from Corona should get cut Sundays, trips after 9:31 PM to Corona and trips after 10:16 PM from Corona should get canned. Even if I cut Q38 service up to 10:00 PM weekends, that is still overserving the route. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1186 Posted February 17, 2013 I wouldn't change the current Q47 route or set-up at all. The Q49 to Woodside I'm neutral about, because that would be duplicative to the Q32 and the . I wouldn't cut the Q53 from Woodside completely. I would make every other bus serve Woodside, because the Q53 lacks ridership between Woodside and Jackson Heights. Service past 10 PM is not needed from Jackson Heights to Woodside, based on the multiple times I take an evening Q47 at 10 PM, which indeed does get SRO. Also, I think the Q38 can get a decrease in running times. Weekdays, the 12:15 AM trip to Rego Park and the 12:00 AM trip to Corona should get cut. Saturdays, trips after 10:01 PM to Corona and trips after 10:46 PM from Corona should get cut Sundays, trips after 9:31 PM to Corona and trips after 10:16 PM from Corona should get canned. Even if I cut Q38 service up to 10:00 PM weekends, that is still overserving the route. so you like my idea of cutting of the Q53 and like i said i made notes in each of the q47 and the q53 each change is dependent on the Q47 since you say there is demand the plan would be scrapped for the q47 and to make room for the q53 i removed the q49 from 74th street terminal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1187 Posted February 17, 2013 Instead of cutting, they should put it to better use by extending one half to Ridgewood. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1188 Posted February 17, 2013 Instead of cutting, they should put it to better use by extending one half to Ridgewood. which one the Q38? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1189 Posted February 17, 2013 These are two options I would do to the Q38 Option 1:Replace the Q38 into two parts Q88: Replacing the entire Eastbound Q38 routing from Corona to Middle Village, and replacing the Q38 route westbound from Middle Village to Corona (Q88 will resume normal routing at 108 st HHE) The Q88 will also run a shorter pathway, operating along 69 street to Metropolitan Avenue to Fresh Pond Road, Replacing the Q67 Option 1a Q67: Buses run on the Q38 route from 69 street to Forest Hills, to maintain service on the lesser used Penelope Avenue Portion. The bus will run every 12 (current Q67 rh headways , compared from the 14 on the Q38) rush hours, every 24 (compared from 20 on the Q38), every 12 (compared to 15 on the Q38). Weekends, the Q67 will have short-turns from Fresh Pond Road/ Metropolitan Avenue to Forest Hills, every 30 minutes on the segment, 60 from Middle Village to LIC. This would break the Q38 route into two segments as it previously was, and make the current Q38 bunching problem end The Q88 will be a Fresh Pond Bus Route, and still have Casey Stengel Trippers The Q67 would most probably be College Point Because of its proximity to College Point to LGA, or a split The B26 would be based from Grand Avenue instead The B7 would go back to East New York Option 1b The Q67 would run on the Q38 route to Fresh Pond Road, then continue down Eliot via the Q39 path The Q39 would instead serve Metropolitan Avenue and the Penelope Avenue Segment, and Forest Hills Option 2: Replace the Q38 in two segments Q18: Extended from Grand/69 street to Ridgewood via Q39 routing Q39: Will run down Fresh Pond Road, Metropolitan Avenue, 69 street, Eliot Avenue, and off to Corona via the Q38 path Q67: Buses run on the Q38 route from 69 street to Forest Hills, to maintain service on the lesser used Penelope Avenue Portion. The bus will run every 12 (current Q67 rh headways , compared from the 14 on the Q38) rush hours, every 24 (compared from 20 on the Q38), every 12 (compared to 15 on the Q38). Weekends, the Q67 will have short-turns from Fresh Pond Road/ Metropolitan Avenue to Forest Hills, every 30 minutes on the segment, 60 from Middle Village to LIC. This would break the Q38 route into two segments as it previously was, and make the current Q38 bunching problem end The Q67 would most probably be College Point Because of its proximity to College Point to LGA, or a split 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted February 18, 2013 Share #1190 Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Oh, I didn't realize you were extending the Q88. That was always one of my alternative ideas for that area. I would simply extend it via the Eliot half, but then come down Forest and Gates to the Ridgewood terminal (Fresh Pond @ Metropolitan is in a way, the "middle of nowhere" as far as a terminal). Then, the remainder of the Q38 would loop around Fresh Pond, Eliot and Olivet Crescent to come back to the Metro terminal, and the Juniper Valley route. (Yeah, then, you could probably reduce that at night). Edited February 18, 2013 by Eric B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted February 18, 2013 Share #1191 Posted February 18, 2013 Oh, I didn't realize you were extending the Q88. That was always one of my alternative ideas for that area. I would simply extend it via the Eliot half, but then come down Forest and Gates to the Ridgewood terminal (Fesh Pond @ Metropolitan is in a way, the "middle of nowhere" as far as a terminal). Then, the remainder of the Q38 would loop around Fresh Pond, Eliot and Olivet Crescent to come back to the Metro terminal, and the Juniper Valley route. (Yeah, then, you could probably reduce that at night). enjoy a long ass ride 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted February 18, 2013 Share #1192 Posted February 18, 2013 I wondered whether that might be too long. But then didn't someone not too long ago mention an idea of cutting it back at its eastern end, or something like that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 18, 2013 Share #1193 Posted February 18, 2013 I wondered whether that might be too long. But then didn't someone not too long ago mention an idea of cutting it back at its eastern end, or something like that? B35 via Church suggested terminating the Q88 at Springfield Blvd and 73 Avenue or at the former Q75 terminal or something like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted February 18, 2013 Share #1194 Posted February 18, 2013 if there were cutbacks that needed to be made i deleted the Q47 from the 74th street terminal to compensate that i cut the q53 back to 74th street terminal if political pressure needed the q47 at the 74th street terminal the q47 reroute would be scrapped and the q49 would be deleted from the 74th street terminal and extended to the old q53 terminal thoughts and comments q47 deleted from 74th street terminal to make room for the q53 reroute https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=218345366120084192601.0004d5e95af38120b0557 q49 reroute to replace the q53 https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=218345366120084192601.0004d5e9c0b1c67455ba2 q53 cutback https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=218345366120084192601.0004d5e98b47945f38459 what's everyone else's opinion of my proposals? since it got caught in me asking Q23 central about sending the B26 to JG. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted February 19, 2013 Share #1195 Posted February 19, 2013 ....But then didn't someone not too long ago mention an idea of cutting it back at its eastern end, or something like that? B35 via Church suggested terminating the Q88 at Springfield Blvd and 73 Avenue or at the former Q75 terminal or something like that. Yeah, that was me.... I still think it should too; EB usage tanks at springfield/73rd anyway.... The (short turn) Q27 & the Q1 can remain ending at LIRR Queens Village.... I suggested ending Q88's at Springfield/Union Turnpike..... ....Eastbound along 73rd, then turn south on bell, east on union tpke, north on springfield to stand..... from that point (after layover of course), Elmhurst bound 88's would take on it's normal routing.... That was the idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted February 19, 2013 Share #1196 Posted February 19, 2013 Yeah, that was me.... I still think it should too; EB usage tanks at springfield/73rd anyway.... The (short turn) Q27 & the Q1 can remain ending at LIRR Queens Village.... I suggested ending Q88's at Springfield/Union Turnpike..... ....Eastbound along 73rd, then turn south on bell, east on union tpke, north on springfield to stand..... from that point (after layover of course), Elmhurst bound 88's would take on it's normal routing.... That was the idea. I'd support Q88 short turns at Springfield and 73rd, but the Q88 from 73rd to Jamaica Av does serve a useful purpose. As someone who uses the bus over there, it's a much faster alternative to the Q17, and in terms of ridership it certainly isn't a Q79. If anything, the problem with the Springfield routes are their tendency to bunch a lot. Whenever I'm waiting to change to a Q27 or a Q88 at Hillside and Springfield, it always seems like both routes send their buses in twos and threes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted February 20, 2013 Share #1197 Posted February 20, 2013 How long does it take to reach manhattan from merrick blvd at linden or baisley via Q5 to the If they are timed well? How fast is x63 as well from those points in queens?answer both please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted February 20, 2013 Share #1198 Posted February 20, 2013 I'd support Q88 short turns at Springfield and 73rd, but the Q88 from 73rd to Jamaica Av does serve a useful purpose. As someone who uses the bus over there, it's a much faster alternative to the Q17, and in terms of ridership it certainly isn't a Q79. If anything, the problem with the Springfield routes are their tendency to bunch a lot. Whenever I'm waiting to change to a Q27 or a Q88 at Hillside and Springfield, it always seems like both routes send their buses in twos and threes. Right....and those that are waiting for/taking those bunched buses more often than not, pile onto Q27's. Yeah it (the 88) serves a useful purpose & it isn't Q79 like ridership-wise, but I still don't think it needs to serve as much of Springfield as it does.... How long does it take to reach manhattan from merrick blvd at linden or baisley via Q5 to the If they are timed well? How fast is x63 as well from those points in queens? answer both please. Depends where in manhattan you're talking about.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted February 20, 2013 Share #1199 Posted February 20, 2013 How long does it take to reach manhattan from merrick blvd at linden or baisley via Q5 to the If they are timed well? How fast is x63 as well from those points in queens?answer both please. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google+transit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted February 20, 2013 Share #1200 Posted February 20, 2013 Right....and those that are waiting for/taking those bunched buses more often than not, pile onto Q27's. Yeah it (the 88) serves a useful purpose & it isn't Q79 like ridership-wise, but I still don't think it needs to serve as much of Springfield as it does.... Depends where in manhattan you're talking about.... 3rd ave or 5th ave corridor in manhattan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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