kawasaki3 Posted May 11, 2009 Share #26 Posted May 11, 2009 and how will it effect Bx29 riders ( city island riders) that Gun Hill depot get rebuilded or rehabbed right 126 street depot get rehabbed or rebuilded. will eastchester depot will control bx29 route if Gun Hill depot get rebuilded or rehabbed anytime soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted May 12, 2009 Share #27 Posted May 12, 2009 With the amount of artics the M15 runs, I don't think that 100st, and the new MCH would be able to handle all of it. It wouldn't surprise me if the M101, didn't end up at KB, with other routes being shifted around, so that MCH and 100st could handle the M15. Heck, they just might leave Amsterdam open, even when the new MCH reopens, if they do close 126st......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawasaki3 Posted July 1, 2009 Share #28 Posted July 1, 2009 so when Mother Clara Hale depot open. Which depot will replace 126 street depot when it go under rehabilitation.? Micheal J. Quill depot or West Farms depot will replace 126 street depot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted July 2, 2009 Share #29 Posted July 2, 2009 Manhattanville is an old depot location that got a new building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share #30 Posted July 2, 2009 so when Mother Clara Hale depot open.Which depot will replace 126 street depot when it go under rehabilitation.? Micheal J. Quill depot or West Farms depot will replace 126 street depot. I dont think buses from manhattan division will transfer to West Farms as its full and and its a Bronx Division AMS might stay open for some buses off 126, while others split down to 100th St depo which carries the M101, M102, M103.. I wonder if the M102 would go to MCH.. wasnt it in the 90s apart of that depot with the M1, M7, Bx19, Bx32, Bx33? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML111 Posted July 2, 2009 Share #31 Posted July 2, 2009 With the amount of artics the M15 runs, I don't think that 100st, and the new MCH would be able to handle all of it. It wouldn't surprise me if the M101, didn't end up at KB, with other routes being shifted around, so that MCH and 100st could handle the M15. Heck, they just might leave Amsterdam open, even when the new MCH reopens, if they do close 126st......... What I heard a while back, and I might have posted this already in this thread is that when 126th does close for re-hab, the M15 will be split between 100th Street and MJQ, as they are the only two depots in the division (and within a reasonable deadhead distance and the only two (outside of KB which is not an option for the M15) that handle artics - most runs would be 100th Street based, some would deadhead out of MJQ to Houston, or interline with routes such as an M14 or an M79/86 with a deadhead associated with it - the rest of the lines out of 126th would be split with MJQ (i.e. the M31, M66, M72) and most likely either MTV or MCH (i.e. the M35 and M116). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 2, 2009 Share #32 Posted July 2, 2009 MJQ usually has a bunch of leftover artics at times. Since the M14A interlines with the M14D & the M23, they save artics. I can see those running on the M15, nice and oh so shiny 100th street depot would be nothing new to me, its like looking at 126th street buses again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted July 2, 2009 Share #33 Posted July 2, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 3.4; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) How about this idea (a collaboration of everyones ideas lol) might not be perfect... I know almost every depot gas some extra buses in their garages (espically Quill), so why not every depot sends their extra buses to Amsterdam and open it as a full-time depot after 126 St reopens as a Manhattan Division depot? Here is my idea of the lists and their depots... 126 St: M15, 31, 35, 66, 72, 98, 116 Amsterdam: M4, 7, 10, 11, 96, 100, 101, 104 Hale: M1, 2, 3, 18, Bx32, 33 Manhattanville: M2, 3, 4, 60, 100 St: M79, 86, 102, 103 Quill: M6, 8, 9, 14A/14D, 16, 21, 22, 23, 27, 30, 34, 42, 50, 57, x90 That's a start and I'm open for ideas to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML111 Posted July 2, 2009 Share #34 Posted July 2, 2009 The main issue I see with your plan is that Amsterdam as a facility cannot possibly be equipped to handle the routes or the buses assigned to the routes you have listed - the M4, 7, 10, 11, 100, 101 and 104 are all north-south trunk routes that require at least 15-20 buses each assigned to them during the rush hours, Amsterdam cannot handle more than 110 buses total and that's with spares. Also almost every 101 run has a 102 and 103 piece assigned to it, as every assignment out of 100th Street is interlined with each other, so you cannot move the 101 without moving the 102 and/or the 103. that goes without saying that Amsterdam cannot handle artics - in addition with all of your moves, you are leaving Manhattanville, which has the capacity for over 200 buses, practically empty - with what you're describing in terms of splits with spares going to Amsterdam, it creates a whole new issue with extra drivers, swings, maintanence cycles and manpower to staff the depot... I'm not quite sure it would be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share #35 Posted July 2, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 3.4; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) How about this idea (a collaboration of everyones ideas lol) might not be perfect... I know almost every depot gas some extra buses in their garages (espically Quill), so why not every depot sends their extra buses to Amsterdam and open it as a full-time depot after 126 St reopens as a Manhattan Division depot? Here is my idea of the lists and their depots... 126 St: M15, 31, 35, 66, 72, 98, 116 Amsterdam: M4, 7, 10, 11, 96, 100, 101, 104 Hale: M1, 2, 3, 18, Bx32, 33 Manhattanville: M2, 3, 4, 60, 100 St: M79, 86, 102, 103 Quill: M6, 8, 9, 14A/14D, 16, 21, 22, 23, 27, 30, 34, 42, 50, 57, x90 That's a start and I'm open for ideas to fix it. I doubt that will work AMS needs a rehab.. M100 can stick at KB too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43 Floral Park Posted July 3, 2009 Share #36 Posted July 3, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 4.7; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 3.4; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) How about this idea (a collaboration of everyones ideas lol) might not be perfect... I know almost every depot gas some extra buses in their garages (espically Quill), so why not every depot sends their extra buses to Amsterdam and open it as a full-time depot after 126 St reopens as a Manhattan Division depot? Here is my idea of the lists and their depots... 126 St: M15, 31, 35, 66, 72, 98, 116 Amsterdam: M4, 7, 10, 11, 96, 100, 101, 104 Hale: M1, 2, 3, 18, Bx32, 33 Manhattanville: M2, 3, 4, 60, 100 St: M79, 86, 102, 103 Quill: M6, 8, 9, 14A/14D, 16, 21, 22, 23, 27, 30, 34, 42, 50, 57, x90 That's a start and I'm open for ideas to fix it. 126: sounds fine but the m98 should at KB (closest deadhead n/b term and s/b isn't a bad deadhead either just straight down the fdr and 2av). Amsterdam: its been said that plan won't work. So I won't comment on the routes you put there. Just close it Hale: the bx32 out of hale was a nightmare. It ran best out of KB. Give them the m10, its closer than MHV. MHV: m2-5,m11, m60, m96/106, m104. Add a split on the bx15 maybe. 100 st: this makes sense. Quill shouldn't have the m79 Quill: just kill the m30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted July 3, 2009 Share #37 Posted July 3, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 3.4; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) The main issue I see with your plan is that Amsterdam as a facility cannot possibly be equipped to handle the routes or the buses assigned to the routes you have listed - the M4, 7, 10, 11, 100, 101 and 104 are all north-south trunk routes that require at least 15-20 buses each assigned to them during the rush hours, Amsterdam cannot handle more than 110 buses total and that's with spares. Also almost every 101 run has a 102 and 103 piece assigned to it, as every assignment out of 100th Street is interlined with each other, so you cannot move the 101 without moving the 102 and/or the 103. that goes without saying that Amsterdam cannot handle artics - in addition with all of your moves, you are leaving Manhattanville, which has the capacity for over 200 buses, practically empty - with what you're describing in terms of splits with spares going to Amsterdam, it creates a whole new issue with extra drivers, swings, maintanence cycles and manpower to staff the depot... I'm not quite sure it would be a good idea. Ok ,thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted July 3, 2009 Share #38 Posted July 3, 2009 I doubt that will work AMS needs a rehab.. M100 can stick at KB too I thought AMS was only open because MCH was up for rehab, and it would be closed once MCH reopened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share #39 Posted July 3, 2009 I thought AMS was only open because MCH was up for rehab, and it would be closed once MCH reopened. I dunno, there was a few responses before about AMS staying open after 2012 to 2015/2016 for 126th depot split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted July 3, 2009 Share #40 Posted July 3, 2009 I dunno, there was a few responses before about AMS staying open after 2012 to 2015/2016 for 126th depot split. Oh right. I think that's gonna happen but there's no point rehabbing it if it's gonna close again in the not-too-distant future. BTW guys, I remember in Bio class earlier this year, my teacher was making soem reference to the respiratory system or w/e and she mentioned that there was a bus depot in Harlem, and there were higher recorded levels of asthma in the blocks nearer to the depot than those farther from the depot. Would anyone know if that's MCH or another depot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawasaki3 Posted July 4, 2009 Share #41 Posted July 4, 2009 there is 5 depot that in harlem that Mother clara Hale depot , 100 street depot , Manhattanville depot , Amsterdam depot , 126 street depot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted July 4, 2009 Share #42 Posted July 4, 2009 Oh right. I think that's gonna happen but there's no point rehabbing it if it's gonna close again in the not-too-distant future. BTW guys, I remember in Bio class earlier this year, my teacher was making soem reference to the respiratory system or w/e and she mentioned that there was a bus depot in Harlem, and there were higher recorded levels of asthma in the blocks nearer to the depot than those farther from the depot. Would anyone know if that's MCH or another depot? I believe its the 100th Street Depot, its near a residental area! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted July 4, 2009 Share #43 Posted July 4, 2009 Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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