SubwayGuy Posted November 13, 2009 Share #51 Posted November 13, 2009 All train with WH propulsions/motors have that metallurgical feature including the R44s, R62As, and even the R1s. I personally view the WH acceleration as distinctive with the deep growl at the start of the run and consider it a classic since the R1 was the first to emit a deep growl when accelerating. Speaking of the deep growl, it's almost impossible to record the sound with a camera b/c the sound is so deep. The only video that I heard the WH deep growl from was one that feature an R62A express run on the now-defunct nycrails.com. Sorry for going off topic. No it's different with the R68s that I am talking about. It's not regular WH noise. It's a "jet engine" type whirring noise in addition to the propulsion. The R44's do not have that metallurgical issue and are therefore quieter. Since some R68s do not have the metallurgical defect you can hear the difference there too vs. the ones that do because the ones that don't have the problem also run quieter, similar to an R44. The R1/9's and for that matter the Lo-V's, BMT Standards, Hi-V, and el cards do not make anywhere near that sound. In the case of the R9's in particular that noise you hear is caused by the meshing of the bull and pinion gears under the car. Believe me, I've helped take apart an Arnine motor and put it back together again, so I am well versed in what I am talking about on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted November 13, 2009 Share #52 Posted November 13, 2009 the interior has a very 70s feel with the yellow and orange and wood paneling, all they need is some mirror balls in there and some disco music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 Av/Fulton Exp Posted November 13, 2009 Share #53 Posted November 13, 2009 they should stay where theyve always been with some on the and®...i actually remember when u had alot of em on the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted November 13, 2009 Share #54 Posted November 13, 2009 the interior has a very 70s feel with the yellow and orange and wood paneling, all they need is some mirror balls in there and some disco music That seem to be the color scheme of that era.I mean even when you watch tv shows from that period, like that 70s show,all in the family,the Jeffersons etc etc they all had those colors as the most dominant in their entire home LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted November 13, 2009 Share #55 Posted November 13, 2009 All train with WH propulsions/motors have that metallurgical feature including the R44s, R62As, and even the R1s. I personally view the WH acceleration as distinctive with the deep growl at the start of the run and consider it a classic since the R1 was the first to emit a deep growl when accelerating. Speaking of the deep growl, it's almost impossible to record the sound with a camera b/c the sound is so deep. The only video that I heard the WH deep growl from was one that feature an R62A express run on the now-defunct nycrails.com. Sorry for going off topic. See I notice the whirring noise on the (NYCT) rebuilt version.Not so much on the Morrison-Knudsen models.It must be a worstinghouse thing LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 13, 2009 Share #56 Posted November 13, 2009 See I notice the whirring noise on the (NYCT) rebuilt version.Not so much on the Morrison-Knudsen models.It must be a worstinghouse thing LOL. See my post at the top of this page... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 13, 2009 Share #57 Posted November 13, 2009 See I notice the whirring noise on the (NYCT) rebuilt version.Not so much on the Morrison-Knudsen models.It must be a worstinghouse thing LOL. Not mine: I also poorly recorded R62A 1876 emitting the whirling noise on my phone: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted November 14, 2009 Share #58 Posted November 14, 2009 Cool vid of the R44 whirling noise.Sounds like a (NYCT) rebuild to me.You guys have to admit that sound grows on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 14, 2009 Share #59 Posted November 14, 2009 Cool vid of the R44 whirling noise.Sounds like a (NYCT) rebuild to me.You guys have to admit that sound grows on you. I've heard it and got used to it since the first time I rode on the A. When I used to live in Ozone Park and I hear the whirl, I would always assume it's an R44 over an airplane about to land at JFK.' Also, the R62As with the Metallurgical Quirk are all on the 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 14, 2009 Share #60 Posted November 14, 2009 St Louis Car 09, I just spotted a CI Rebuilt R44 with the whirl a few days ago on a video: I'm pretty sure that 5242 is a MK rebuilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted November 14, 2009 Share #61 Posted November 14, 2009 Also, the R62As with the Metallurgical Quirk are all on the 1. False. 1660 has it, and it was on the last I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 14, 2009 Share #62 Posted November 14, 2009 I've heard it and got used to it since the first time I rode on the A. When I used to live in Ozone Park and I hear the whirl, I would always assume it's an R44 over an airplane about to land at JFK.' Also, the R62As with the Metallurgical Quirk are all on the 1. As I've said many times already in this thread, there is no pattern to which cars do this and which do not. Please stop making things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3352 Posted November 14, 2009 Share #63 Posted November 14, 2009 I would sort of like it if they still had the blue stripe and original numbering with TODAYS Signage! Totally Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 14, 2009 Share #64 Posted November 14, 2009 As I've said many times already in this thread, there is no pattern to which cars do this and which do not. Please stop making things up. I'm not making anything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 14, 2009 Share #65 Posted November 14, 2009 I'm not making anything up. Well then whoever passed that information along to you gave you bad info. It happens, no biggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 14, 2009 Share #66 Posted November 14, 2009 Well then whoever passed that information along to you gave you bad info. It happens, no biggie. I was implying the same idea to St Louis, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted November 16, 2009 Share #67 Posted November 16, 2009 See, the NYC transit rebuilds are known for the whirring sound.And I think that car number is in fact a MK rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandoftheLost Posted November 16, 2009 Share #68 Posted November 16, 2009 wait a second i thought ( R44 was rebuilt by 207 street overhaul shop yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 16, 2009 Share #69 Posted November 16, 2009 What is meant by "metallurgical quirk"? Something about the two metals used for the gears being reactive with one another, or the profiles of the gear teeth producing a certain sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 16, 2009 Share #70 Posted November 16, 2009 See, the NYC transit rebuilds are known for the whirring sound.And I think that car number is in fact a MK rebuild. Like I've said there is no pattern to it. These are parts that are in circulation they are not assigned to specific cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 16, 2009 Share #71 Posted November 16, 2009 What is meant by "metallurgical quirk"? Something about the two metals used for the gears being reactive with one another, or the profiles of the gear teeth producing a certain sound? I'm not 100% sure, you'd have to ask an expert in metals. But something about the way the metal was fabricated for the part causes that sound. Since it's harmless, it was left alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 16, 2009 Share #72 Posted November 16, 2009 I wonder if it's the same reason why Japanese transmissions tend to make that whirring noise in reverse...every Honda and Nissan i've seen does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted November 18, 2009 Share #73 Posted November 18, 2009 Do you know that R46 and r62 has the same sound? Also R44/R68/R62A has a similar or the same sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 18, 2009 Share #74 Posted November 18, 2009 Do you know that R46 and r62 has the same sound? Also R44/R68/R62A has a similar or the same sound. That's because R46/R62 = GE R44/R68/R68A/R62A = Westinghouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted November 24, 2009 Share #75 Posted November 24, 2009 SubwayGuy, are you saying that the R68As make that howling sound too? I've only heard the R68s make them, yet an R68A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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