CPBO Posted December 8, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 8, 2009 By TOM NAMAKO New York state came up $200 million short of its payroll-tax projection for 2009 -- and that could lead to MTA service cuts as early as next year, sources said yesterday. But there won't be a fare hike in 2010, not with one already scheduled for 2011, MTA officials noted. "If fares are off the table, I don't know how else to rescue the budget by that much money without service cuts, as well as additional administrative savings," one board member said. Since Gov. Paterson cut $143 million from its budget this year, the MTA has to make up $343 million by the end of next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted December 9, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 9, 2009 Doomsday deja vu No, seriously, doomsday is returning unless Obama passes a $787 billion bailout plan:pI wish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQPine Posted December 9, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 9, 2009 This is because NY State cut $143 mil from the transit budget. There's lots of cuts that need to be made, but transit shouldn't be one of them. How about denying welfare to non-citizens. Budget crisis solved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted December 9, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 9, 2009 I didnt know non-citizens could get welfare...but wait are we talkin people here on Visas or illegals? I mean if we're talkin illegals then of course cut them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted December 9, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 9, 2009 so I guess that means say goodbye to and and the Belmont Park Branch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted December 9, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 9, 2009 How ironic is the timing of this news while there is a court battle over the contract. Will this mean layoffs or a hiring freeze for part of next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted December 9, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 9, 2009 So, let me get this straight.... With economy in a slump, the state's best plan is "spend less & have less service"? I think most of these people are bean counting idiots who have no idea how transit/rail transportation works. If you reduce service, the % of reflected reduced fares will be lower, as in less people will use the service provided after the decrease, not just proportional to the service cut, but even lower. If you change a bus route to 10 stops from 20, those 10 stops will have less people, A. because some of the abandoned stops will be the destination or start point, and B. people don't want to risk missing a bus at a stop that may be all most as far as walking. Rail transportation, how it really works, relies on expansion of routes and increases in service where possible. Holding steady is fine, but decreasing service or shortening the route will result in severely diminished ROI, if you want to save money, cutting length off a route or eliminating it will cut into fares generated, so you basically lose income while losing possible future increases in income. What should be done to generate income is to sell or lease stuff (objects etc) you don't need anymore, such as older rolling stock, surplus parts, offer as many special service and/or excursion trains as the public asks for (paid with special ticket sales), focus on the day to day costs that can be trimmed, such as even the lube grease used, the sand for traction etc, save small to save big, because those overhead costs will always be there no matter how huge or small your 'road is. Cutting routes only harms rail transportation. The retiree generation, who worked with the Reading, PRR, NYC etc etc, they have the knowledge to save the , if only folks in charge would listen. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted December 9, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 9, 2009 Definally, I will be ready for next public hearing and go to every public hearings as possible and make speech. I don't want to see express bus to be ended up like $7.50 something or $2.50~$3.00 and 30-Day MetroCard going to be more expensive like maybe $110? http://wcbstv.com/topstories/mta.budget.crisis.2.1357200.html Staten Island properly will protest toll hike paying $11 in pennies if one way toll goes over like $14-$15 and Long Island Bus could become seperate fare which I will not support. I do not support elimation of service cut on low ridership buses, train service, or subway service. Even Bee-Line buses will properly affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted December 11, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 11, 2009 it's back. even with the state bailout the proposed 'doomesday cuts' highlighted by ending the (Z)lines maybe on the chopping block again. here story below.:mad: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/12/11/2009-12-11_budget_busted_financially_challenged_mta_looks_to_slash_many_routes_cut_subways.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPBO Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted December 11, 2009 I would say we all knew that some type of cuts would come down the pipeline somwhere......the bailout in my eyes was just a short answer.......there is a list of bus and rail cuts on another post.....but what is amazing is that the Politicians last summer voted to get a pay increase with the shenanigans they pulled and bobble head seems to not be able to get Albany in order!! So with Albany in disarray New York will just be a mess till we elect a guy that is a recovering drug addict or something (Marion Barry) poor one guy/gal that needs a bus or train to get to work and it is on the chopping block.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted December 12, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 12, 2009 Can we please stop calling these doomsday cuts? The world is not ending. Also, fares are not going up until 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted December 12, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 12, 2009 Also, fares are not going up until 2011. I would not believe that BS for a second. This is the MTA and they can say and do what ever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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