Question about MTA Future bus fleet?

[R44 CNG 473]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_bus_fleet#Future_fleet

 

On the link it above it talks about a 40ft LF CNG bus thats gonna replace all CNG buses from the 90s. This bus will have a base contract of 135 buses. It also talks about the next demonstration bus after the NovaBus LFS 0055. A Hydrogen fuel cell bus that will be tested in Spring, 2010.

 

Does anybody know the model of these buses and/ or have pics? Thanks:tup::cool:

[trainspot12 21]

The 40ft LF CNG bus is supposedly going to be the Orion VII NG CNGs. The demonstration Hydrogen bus is unknown at this time.

[R44 CNG 473]

The 40ft LF CNG bus is supposedly going to be the Orion VII NG CNGs. The demonstration Hydrogen bus is unknown at this time.

 

Thanx:tup::cool:

[Eric B 1,073]

Oh, so we're finally going to try out hydrogen!

I read about a test demo somewhere, but didn't know we would be trying it out any time soon.

 

Now that all the current NG's are in, isn't this next batch supposed to have some more design changes, or is the addition of CNG it?

[R32 3348 11]

It's a CNG order.

[Lennyj17 49]

I'm going to take a stab and say that JG and CP have the 1st dibs on the NG CNG's....The New Flyer CNG's at JG will probably be shuffled around for awhile between JG, CP, SC, and WF while the O5's start to get scrapped.

[Grand Concourse 2,690]

I really don't think it makes sense to move those NF C40lfs around. JG is the only place those buses have been and they have the parts for those buses. Also the C40lfs are also getting up there in age.

I would think they would be outright replaced [case by case basis]. JG could always move the OG O7 CNGs to the other depots as well.

[Forest Glen 4]

At least there will be no more NG's.

[Lennyj17 49]

I really don't think it makes sense to move those NF C40lfs around. JG is the only place those buses have been and they have the parts for those buses. Also the C40lfs are also getting up there in age.

I would think they would be outright replaced [case by case basis]. JG could always move the OG O7 CNGs to the other depots as well.

 

Arent all the CNG O5's older by a yr or two to the NF CNG's...I would think the MTA want to get rid of all O5's before the NF's....Unless the O5's are holding up better to the NF's

 

I know CP really needs to scrap some of those 98 and 99' series O5's some them sound bad as hell like their on deaths door step...I dont know if that's because they were PBL's and we know the type of maintaince the PBL's gave to their buses....

[R32 3348 11]

At least there will be no more NG's.

An NG CNG is still an NG...

[Lennyj17 49]

The MTAB/NYCT CNG NG will probably look just like the LIB CNG NGs except for the seat arrangements and the Flashlight at the top front of the bus.

[nycbusfan 2]

The MTAB/NYCT CNG NG will probably look just like the LIB CNG NGs except for the seat arrangements and the Flashlight at the top front of the bus.

I'm sure hoping that is the case as those LIB NG's are my favorite new buses around.

[Jojobus 0]

Arent all the CNG O5's older by a yr or two to the NF CNG's...I would think the MTA want to get rid of all O5's before the NF's....Unless the O5's are holding up better to the NF's

 

I know CP really needs to scrap some of those 98 and 99' series O5's some them sound bad as hell like their on deaths door step...I dont know if that's because they were PBL's and we know the type of maintaince the PBL's gave to their buses....

 

The PBL's kept buses on the road on a shoestring budget throughout the years, need I mention that it was us who kept the Grummans on the road in the 80's while the MTA pulled them out of service because they deemed them to be too high maintenance.

[Nova RTS 9147 79]

At least there will be no more NG's.

 

Word around the campfire is that the order went to Orion, and we're getting NG CNGs.

[Grand Concourse 2,690]

That doesn't surprise me much. LIB has them. It was just a matter of time till NYCT got them as well. Otoh, it'll be somewhat lf for lf. But I do think it might be a case by case basis about the O5 CNGs. So I can't really say what is going at the moment.

[Fresh Pond 5,371]

Arent all the CNG O5's older by a yr or two to the NF CNG's...I would think the MTA want to get rid of all O5's before the NF's....Unless the O5's are holding up better to the NF's

 

I know CP really needs to scrap some of those 98 and 99' series O5's some them sound bad as hell like their on deaths door step...I dont know if that's because they were PBL's and we know the type of maintaince the PBL's gave to their buses....

 

Here's when they came in...

 

1997 (5.501 CNG): 708

1998 (5.501 CNG): 709-750, 7214-7273, 8568-8581, 9932-9999

1998 (C40LF): 800-801

1999 (5.501 CNG): 751, 7274-7285, 9827-9834, 9836-9867, 9869-9931

1999 (C40LF): 802-856

2000 (C40LF): 857-989

 

As you can see, they're almost the same age so its somewhat of a toss-up on which is gonna go 1st

[Lennyj17 49]

Here's when they came in...

 

1997 (5.501 CNG): 708

1998 (5.501 CNG): 709-750, 7214-7273, 8568-8581, 9932-9999

1998 (C40LF): 800-801

1999 (5.501 CNG): 751, 7274-7285, 9827-9834, 9836-9867, 9869-9931

1999 (C40LF): 802-856

2000 (C40LF): 857-989

 

As you can see, they're almost the same age so its somewhat of a toss-up on which is gonna go 1st

 

You forgot the JG 500 and 600 series O5s which i think are the oldest CNGs and are the first up for scrapping...

[St Louis Car 09 22]

The PBL's kept buses on the road on a shoestring budget throughout the years, need I mention that it was us who kept the Grummans on the road in the 80's while the MTA pulled them out of service because they deemed them to be too high maintenance.

Not only high maintenance also because the Grumman A-frame buses begin to suffer quality build issues with frame cracking.I only heard of this problem with (NYCT) versions.

[Fresh Pond 5,371]

You forgot the JG 500 and 600 series O5s which i think are the oldest CNGs and are the first up for scrapping...

 

Oh yeah, those (317, 581-610) came out in 1994-1995 and it was before Orion had their current name. Back then it was called Bus Industries of America.

[St Louis Car 09 22]

 

Oh yeah, those (317, 581-610) came out in 1994-1995 and it was before Orion had their current name. Back then it was called Bus Industries of America.

Are there still Orion 5`s still running with the BIA moniker plate?

[Fresh Pond 5,371]

Are there still Orion 5`s still running with the BIA moniker plate?

 

Yup, those buses I just mentioned: 317, 581-610. Those are at Gleason.