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This further proves my point that the.R142s are NOT good cars.207th street yard is overflowing with broken down R142/As.The MTA made a big mistake in buying these cars.http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?80432

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This further proves my point that the.R142s are NOT good cars.207th street yard is overflowing with broken down R142/As.The MTA made a big mistake in buying these cars.http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?80432

 

Could'nt it just be in for scheduled maintenance?

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Could'nt it just be in for scheduled maintenance?

 

Its not there for scheduled maintence.Its there because the train is JUNK and falling apart.Those crappy cars will only get worst as time goes on.Its funny how the MTA paid like 1 Million for one subway car.And after only eight years in service they are falling apart.

 

I hope the MTA learned their lesson.And the R160s wont suffer the same fate.I heard that the R143 was having problems too.But im not sure if thats a rumor or not.

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They are Japanese trains...What do you expect? Just like the R143s and R160s falling apart already.
How is the R143s falling apart when they had an MDBF over 303,000 miles. The R142As have a high MDBF as well. They are not falling apart. Why do you hate Kawasaki Rail Cars when they have performed so well?

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Its not there for scheduled maintence.Its there because the train is JUNK and falling apart.Those crappy cars will only get worst as time goes on.Its funny how the MTA paid like 1 Million for one subway car.And after only eight years in service they are falling apart.

 

I hope the MTA learned their lesson.And the R160s wont suffer the same fate.I heard that the R143 was having problems too.But im not sure if thats a rumor or not.

Do you have any proof that this car is there for a different reason other than scheduled maintainance?

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Do you have any proof that this car is there for a different reason other than scheduled maintainance?

207th st isnt assigned any R142/As.There are like five to six sets Out of service with tech problems and brake problems.And the 2007 MDBF hasnt even come out yet.So your 2006 MDBF is old anyway.And stop making a big deal about MDBF.MDBF is not everything if it was. The R32 would be retired and the R32. Arent going anywhere anytime soon.

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This further proves my point that the.R142s are NOT good cars.207th street yard is overflowing with broken down R142/As.The MTA made a big mistake in buying these cars.http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?80432

 

They are Japanese trains...What do you expect? Just like the R143s and R160s falling apart already.

 

Thats kind of harsh! I don't know too much about trains, so I guess thats why I like the new trains.

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They are Japanese trains...What do you expect? Just like the R143s and R160s falling apart already.

 

The R142's which ARENT japanese trains which are on the (2),(4) and (5) Lines have more "Issues" than the R142A's a LOT more....

 

So there goes your "japanese made trains" theory out the window...

 

Just wanted you to know that...

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That thread became a flamefest. To avoid sparking the fire I will not participate on this thread but I encourage you to click that link if you are not a member of TS before you reply to him.

 

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Ok well my take on the situation is this. Redbirds were good trains, but could it be because they were just simple? I mean the new high tech trains use much more advanced technology, therefore would automatically have a teething period longer than any other trains in MTA history. Besides that, If they were so bad, then why does the TA continue to buy them?

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Ok well my take on the situation is this. Redbirds were good trains, but could it be because they were just simple? I mean the new high tech trains use much more advanced technology, therefore would automatically have a teething period longer than any other trains in MTA history. Besides that, If they were so bad, then why does the TA continue to buy them?

The R160s are made diffently than the R142s.The R160s and the R142 are not made to the same specs.And the MTA cant buy anymore R32s or R40s because. Their builders are out of business.

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The R160s are made diffently than the R142s.The R160s and the R142 are not made to the same specs.And the MTA cant buy anymore R32s or R40s because. Their builders are out of business.

 

I understand that, but my point is that they can only get better. Even though they are not built to the same specs, they are still on the same "basic" technology. So if they were so bad, why did they order 160's? Kawasaki isnt the only subway builder are they? The TA had to like something about the trains. And isnt the 142 made in the US by Bombardier?

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I understand that, but my point is that they can only get better. Even though they are not built to the same specs, they are still on the same "basic" technology. So if they were so bad, why did they order 160's? Kawasaki isnt the only subway builder are they? The TA had to like something about the trains. And isnt the 142 made in the US by Bombardier?

I dont have a problem with kawasaki or bombardier.Bombardier is an canada i belive.They ordered R160s to replace the R40s and the R42s.Because those cars need "replacement" and are to old.But what im trying to say is that.The nyc subway is a very rough place.And the NTT might not be able to adjust.

 

And i like kawasaki you must got. Me confused with a another poster LOL.

 

And yes there are other car buliders like altsom,bombardier.But right now theres only three car builders kawasaki,bombardier and altsom.St louis car company went out fo busness.Because of the R44 being lemons.Dont know about the other car builders.

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I dont have a problem with kawasaki or bombardier.Bombardier is an canada i belive.They ordered R160s to replace the R40s and the R42s.Because those cars need "replacement" and are to old.But what im trying to say is that.The nyc subway is a very rough place.And the NTT might not be able to adjust.

 

And i like kawasaki you must got. Me confused with a another poster LOL.

 

And yes there are other car buliders like altsom,bombardier.But right now theres only three car builders kawasaki,bombardier and altsom.St louis car company went out fo busness.Because of the R44 being lemons.Dont know about the other car builders.

 

No I understand, I'm just trying to learn a little more about the trains is all. I think this is an interesting topic, and I never really talked about trains before. This is all new to me, so I was just trying to see where everyone is coming from. I've most likely been on all the different brands but cant really tell one from another except the fact that some talk and some don't, and I like them all! LOL B)

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No I understand, I'm just trying to learn a little more about the trains is all. I think this is an interesting topic, and I never really talked about trains before. This is all new to me, so I was just trying to see where everyone is coming from. I've most likely been on all the different brands but cant really tell one from another except the fact that some talk and some don't, and I like them all! LOL B)
Ahh allright i got you.

 

Ok i will try to help you out.

 

I will start off with the old trains.And what lines they run on.

 

R32 runs on the (A)(C) and (E) lines

R38 runs on the (A) and (C) lines

R40 runs on the (B)(N) and (W) lines

R42 runs on the (J) and (M) lines

R44 runs on the (A) and rocaway park shuttle

R46 runs on the (F)(R)(G) and (V) lines

R62 runs on the (3) and sometimes (4) line

R62A runs on the (7) and (1) lines

R68 runs on the (B)(N)(D)(W) and sometimes (Q) line

R68A runs on the (Q)(N)(B) and sometimes (W)

 

Now on to the new tech trains

R142 runs on the (2)(4)(5)(6) lines

R142A runs on the (4) and (6) lines

R143 runs on the (L)

R160A runs on the (L)(M) and (Z) lines.And soon on the (J) line

R160B runs on the (N) line.

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Ahh allright i got you.

 

Ok i will try to help you out.

 

I will start off with the old trains.And what lines they run on.

 

R32 runs on the (A)(C) and (E) lines

R38 runs on the (A) and (C) lines

R40 runs on the (B)(N) and (W) lines

R42 runs on the (J) and (M) lines

R44 runs on the (A) and rocaway park shuttle

R46 runs on the (F)(R)(G) and (V) lines

R62 runs on the (3) and sometimes (4) line

R62A runs on the (7) and (1) lines

R68 runs on the (B)(N)(D)(W) and sometimes (Q) line

R68A runs on the (Q)(N)(B) and sometimes (W)

 

Now on to the new tech trains

R142 runs on the (2)(4)(5)(6) lines

R142A runs on the (4) and (6) lines

R143 runs on the (L)

R160A runs on the (L)(M) and (Z) lines.And soon on the (J) line

R160B runs on the (N) line.

 

 

Thanks a lot!!! B) Thats what i've been waiting on but I didn't want to ask and sound any more ignorant to the subject than I already am! You must have been reading my mind!!!!B):D:D

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Thanks a lot! You all are very helpful and I appreciate it! Yep, I've been on all the different types of trains. I remember the different designs. I've only been on an R160 once, on a railfaning day, as I never really have a reason to catch the (N) line. I thought it was just some type of brand new R142/143 because of the new FIND signs. LOL! That Track Geometry Car looks sweet as hell on the wiki link. I've never seen that before, and I've probably been to the Borough Hall-Jay St station more than any other, second to Halsey St of course.

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The R142's which ARENT japanese trains which are on the (2),(4) and (5) Lines have more "Issues" than the R142A's a LOT more....

 

So there goes your "japanese made trains" theory out the window...

 

Just wanted you to know that...

Haha, Phil got pwn3d.

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This further proves my point that the.R142s are NOT good cars.207th street yard is overflowing with broken down R142/As.The MTA made a big mistake in buying these cars.http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?80432

 

The R142's broke MDBF records. They became great because of all the successful testing that was done with the R110A/B's that were further refined and implemented. They're smoother and quicker ride was also a factor.

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Haha, Phil got pwn3d.
Uh, no I didn't. I know some are made Kawasaki and some are made by Bombardier. Both of these foreign builders suck.

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