yoshi Posted July 21, 2010 Share #1 Posted July 21, 2010 are all R160 capable of cbtc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted July 21, 2010 Share #2 Posted July 21, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted July 21, 2010 no. thats what i thought too but when i looked into the cab of an R160 that was sitting on the express track there was a panel that said cbtc so thats what got me to wounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova RTS 9147 Posted July 21, 2010 Share #4 Posted July 21, 2010 thats what i thought too but when i looked into the cab of an R160 that was sitting on the express track there was a panel that said cbtc so thats what got me to wounder All R160s have that panel, but the trains themselves have to be modified to be CBTC capable (like the R160s on the ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted July 21, 2010 Share #5 Posted July 21, 2010 R160As are currently being retrofitted with CBTC, it's expected to finish by 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted July 21, 2010 All R160s have that panel, but the trains themselves have to be modified to be CBTC capable (like the R160s on the ) ohh i see thanks for the info ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North-Eastern T/O Posted July 21, 2010 Share #7 Posted July 21, 2010 R160As are currently being retrofitted with CBTC, it's expected to finish by 2011. Were did you get this infomation. Only 8313-8376 have and only will have CBTC installed. This is enought train for the line to make it full CBTC. They even extras so they show up on the and from time to time. There no need for the rest to get CBTC installed and the is not going to wast money that they dont have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanatic Posted July 21, 2010 Share #8 Posted July 21, 2010 Thats good to hear because in a few years I would actually like to be operating a train instead of just pushing a button every now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted July 21, 2010 Share #9 Posted July 21, 2010 R160As are currently being retrofitted with CBTC, it's expected to finish by 2011. Really? Who told you this Lie? 8313-8376 are the Only R160's retrofitted for CBTC for the (L)arry Line. Before this thread gets locked care to explain further? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted July 21, 2010 Share #10 Posted July 21, 2010 Thats good to hear because in a few years I would actually like to be operating a train instead of just pushing a button every now and then. No you wont unless you pick the (L)arry Line or maybe the Line. New T/O's are not CBTC/ATO qualified in Schoolcar i believe. You have to Pick that Line get get qualified on it. Maybe Alex L can help out with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted July 21, 2010 Share #11 Posted July 21, 2010 So if there is no CBTC on most R160's, is there any kind of GPS system or whatever that tells the T/O and C/R where exactly the train is at anytime (which is an important part of CBTC), or is just like they see a list of what the next station will be? It seems like without CBTC, there isn't much of a point to having NTT's, other than the fact that they are new, and perhaps that they are "hybrids" in a sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted July 21, 2010 Share #12 Posted July 21, 2010 It seems like without CBTC, there isn't much of a point to having NTT's, other than the fact that they are new, and perhaps that they are "hybrids" in a sense. FINDs, automated announcements... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanatic Posted July 21, 2010 Share #13 Posted July 21, 2010 It seems like without CBTC, there isn't much of a point to having NTT's, other than the fact that they are new, and perhaps that they are "hybrids" in a sense. The ride is smoother than any other 60ft long car in our system, the automated announcements are a big improvement compared to the ones done manually, the FINDs are very convenient for passengers (*cough* when their working) espicially tourist, the emergency intercom is also an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted July 21, 2010 Share #14 Posted July 21, 2010 I guess being a new yorker I forgot that FINDs and clear announcements are actually useful to tourists. I still think the garbled announcements are part of the subway's legacy, even if they confuse tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted July 21, 2010 Share #15 Posted July 21, 2010 Really? Who told you this Lie? 8313-8376 are the Only R160's retrofitted for CBTC for the (L)arry Line. Before this thread gets locked care to explain further? My bad, I misread the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted July 21, 2010 Share #16 Posted July 21, 2010 My bad, I misread the article. Fair Enough :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted July 21, 2010 Share #17 Posted July 21, 2010 So if there is no CBTC on most R160's, is there any kind of GPS system or whatever that tells the T/O and C/R where exactly the train is at anytime (which is an important part of CBTC), or is just like they see a list of what the next station will be? It seems like without CBTC, there isn't much of a point to having NTT's, other than the fact that they are new, and perhaps that they are "hybrids" in a sense. R160's are "hybrids?" You mean they run on fuel of some kind other than electricity? Geez the lies and misinformation I see around here seems to get worse every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted July 22, 2010 Share #18 Posted July 22, 2010 R160's are "hybrids?" You mean they run on fuel of some kind other than electricity? Geez the lies and misinformation I see around here seems to get worse every day. Umm, no. By "hybrid" I was referring to the fact that when braking, the R-160's regenerate some electricity and send it back into the third rail/electrical system, just like a hybrid-electric bus or car regenerates electricity from braking. I realize that "hybrid" does not mean that they have gasoline tanks or whatever. Perhaps I should have been clearer in my post, but I am not an idiot or a liar, but thanks for the intimation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted July 22, 2010 Share #19 Posted July 22, 2010 Umm, no. By "hybrid" I was referring to the fact that when braking, the R-160's regenerate some electricity and send it back into the third rail/electrical system, just like a hybrid-electric bus or car regenerates electricity from braking. I realize that "hybrid" does not mean that they have gasoline tanks or whatever. Perhaps I should have been clearer in my post, but I am not an idiot or a liar, but thanks for the intimation. Right, but that doesn't make it a hybrid or "like one". That means that the subway car features a regenerative dynamic braking system. You may call it splitting hairs, but accuracy in information is very important. Little discrepancies like the above quickly show themselves in the lies foamers tell each other just because they interpreted something on a message board to mean something it didn't, and told their friends what they "heard." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 22, 2010 Share #20 Posted July 22, 2010 R160's are "hybrids?" You mean they run on fuel of some kind other than electricity? You haven't heard the 160s with the diesel engines in 240th yard yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted July 22, 2010 Share #21 Posted July 22, 2010 You haven't heard the 160s with the diesel engines in 240th yard yet? well well the resident comedian strikes again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted July 22, 2010 Share #22 Posted July 22, 2010 You haven't heard the 160s with the diesel engines in 240th yard yet? Yo I'd seen it just the other day. heading down Broadway. It's a single car too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted July 22, 2010 Share #23 Posted July 22, 2010 You may call it splitting hairs, but accuracy in information is very important. Little discrepancies like the above quickly show themselves in the lies foamers tell each other just because they interpreted something on a message board to mean something it didn't, and told their friends what they "heard." Listen buddy, I understand accuracy is important, and yes, I do call it splitting hairs in this case. But please do not start assuming that I am some foamer that is lying to impress people. I know about the braking system from the information screens on the 160's. I don't know as much about them as others do, but I do not post things that I just make up, and I do not pretend to know more than I actually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted July 22, 2010 Share #24 Posted July 22, 2010 Yo I'd seen it just the other day. heading down Broadway. It's a single car too. Seen it, or heard it shredding the platform rubbing boards on its way up and down the IRT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted July 22, 2010 Share #25 Posted July 22, 2010 Listen buddy, I understand accuracy is important, and yes, I do call it splitting hairs in this case. But please do not start assuming that I am some foamer that is lying to impress people. I know about the braking system from the information screens on the 160's. I don't know as much about them as others do, but I do not post things that I just make up, and I do not pretend to know more than I actually do. First of all, I am not your "buddy." Second of all, I never said any of that. What you would have seen in my post had you looked at it thoroughly was that a post such as yours, which was not ill intentioned, but nevertheless misleading, can cause "foamers" (I did not call you a foamer, rather I referred to foamers as "people other than you who think about nothing but trains and who misinterpret your post") to incorrectly assume things based on your unintentionally misleading info. Those "foamers" will then turn it into an outright lie that they will repeat to others, which furthers the lie. And this has been done on this forum by some very specific people for the bulk of the last 18 months. I am being civil here, the bottom line is you even admitted your post could have been significantly more specific and clear so why are you arguing with me? Just acknowledge it and move on...you don't have to "save your name" on here because no one's said anything negative about you as a person, all I've said is your post was misleading, which you agreed with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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