Gorgor Posted March 6, 2011 Share #1 Posted March 6, 2011 Well according to the MTA site I think that's what it means. Trains are rerouted in both directions via the between 36 St, Queens and 34 St-Herald Sq Is that what's happening? The is also running local on 6th avenue and I can imagine that there would be some issues having the and trains crossing tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted March 6, 2011 Share #2 Posted March 6, 2011 yep. once again, the regular G.O. of the via 6 Avenue/63 Street. this is because of the 53 Street construction... read here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted March 6, 2011 Yeah I know about that, but the train is terminating at 34th/6th instead of WTC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted March 6, 2011 Share #4 Posted March 6, 2011 Yeah I know about that, but the train is terminating at 34th/6th instead of WTC? now thats a good question... It seems like random times the terminates at WTC or 34 Street :confused:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadway Local Posted March 6, 2011 Share #5 Posted March 6, 2011 Nothing will work if the will run to World Trade Center via 6 Av Line because: 6th Av Line can't handle 3 local lines ( Trains run local between 34th St and W 4 St due to fan plant rehabilitation) can't run via 6 Av Express due to fan plant rehabilitation Only local tracks can switch back to the 8 Av Line downtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted March 6, 2011 Nothing will work if the will run to World Trade Center via 6 Av Line because: 6th Av Line can't handle 3 local lines ( Trains run local between 34th St and W 4 St due to fan plant rehabilitation) can't run via 6 Av Express due to fan plant rehabilitation Only local tracks can switch back to the 8 Av Line downtown Yeah but how it is now the switches from local tracks to express and terminates at 34th while the switches from the express tracks to the local. Unless they're timed perfectly this will cause some delays, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted March 6, 2011 Share #7 Posted March 6, 2011 now thats a good question... It seems like random times the terminates at WTC or 34 Street :confused:. There is a weekend GO that has the F's from Brooklyn being rerouted over the A/C lines from Jay to W.4th. If the E's were terminating at WTC there would be too much train traffic crossing and merging at Canal and W.4th interlockings. Sometimes when GO's like these piggyback each other it is better to turn the E's at 34/6. If anybody wants an E toward Queens from WTC, Canal, or Spring, they can just take the F and change to the E in midtown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadway Local Posted March 6, 2011 Share #8 Posted March 6, 2011 Yeah but how it is now the switches from local tracks to express and terminates at 34th while the switches from the express tracks to the local. Unless they're timed perfectly this will cause some delays, right? Idk how the T/Os switch tracks north of 34 St because there are a lot of switches and maybe there can be some delays. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted March 6, 2011 Share #9 Posted March 6, 2011 Idk how the T/Os switch tracks north of 34 St because there are a lot of switches and maybe there can be some delays. :confused: They usually send the or ahead since its already on the local track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 6, 2011 Share #10 Posted March 6, 2011 Wirelessly posted via (BlackBerry8520/5.0.0.900 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100) With the G.O Its to Herald Sq on weekends, WTC at nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted March 7, 2011 Share #11 Posted March 7, 2011 They finally have a program for the to Herald Square via 63rd St. I saw it with my own eyes, Saturday afternoon. I am happy. :tup: MTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadway Local Posted March 7, 2011 Share #12 Posted March 7, 2011 They finally have a program for the to Herald Square via 63rd St. I saw it with my own eyes, Saturday afternoon. I am happy. :tup: MTA It's been there already on the day before the 2010 Budget Cuts: But not the "Via 63rd St" because this train didn't run via 63rd St. - Video credit to Caitsith810!!! :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Beach Posted March 7, 2011 Share #13 Posted March 7, 2011 Caught 9452 today, one of the only sets to have to 34 St program: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted March 7, 2011 Share #14 Posted March 7, 2011 Nothing will work if the will run to World Trade Center via 6 Av Line because: 6th Av Line can't handle 3 local lines ( Trains run local between 34th St and W 4 St due to fan plant rehabilitation) can't run via 6 Av Express due to fan plant rehabilitation Only local tracks can switch back to the 8 Av Line downtown Except on weekends, you don't have as many trains running, so I would think at that time you could get away with three locals on sixth avenue then (and if something goes FUBAR, then you have the terminate at 34th/6th if necessary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted March 7, 2011 Share #15 Posted March 7, 2011 Nothing will work if the will run to World Trade Center via 6 Av Line because: 6th Av Line can't handle 3 local lines ( Trains run local between 34th St and W 4 St due to fan plant rehabilitation) can't run via 6 Av Express due to fan plant rehabilitation Only local tracks can switch back to the 8 Av Line downtown The two fan plant rehabs are one and the same. The runs local so the can end at 34th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted March 8, 2011 Share #16 Posted March 8, 2011 the has the 34st-Herald Sq Program, most C/R's dont know it or forget about it, However the had gotten a new program to read "Via 6 Av Lcl/63 st" spares a lot of confusion. There's a program to read "Via 6 Av Lcl/53 st" on the as well when it goes to 34th/6 av. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted March 8, 2011 Share #17 Posted March 8, 2011 the has the 34st-Herald Sq Program, most C/R's dont know it or forget about it, However the had gotten a new program to read "Via 6 Av Lcl/63 st"spares a lot of confusion. There's a program to read "Via 6 Av Lcl/53 st" on the as well when it goes to 34th/6 av. That's what I'm talking about. They always had 53rd St., which led to manual announcements and changes galore. The always went via 63rd when terminating at 34th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGerald Posted March 8, 2011 Share #18 Posted March 8, 2011 That's what I'm talking about. They always had 53rd St., which led to manual announcements and changes galore. The always went via 63rd when terminating at 34th. The E-train or F-train could ALWAYS terminate at 34th Street regardless of whether the 63rd Street tunnel existed or was operating. In the period BEFORE the 63rd Street tunnel existed, the E-train could and did terminate at 34th Street due to a G.O. when required to do so. In fact in the history of the 34th Street-Herald Square IND station what train line from either Washington Heights or the Grand Concourse, or from Queens - did not terminate there? So far the count is B-trains (and BB-trains) from Washington Heights, D-trains during the years long Manhattan Bridge renovation period, F-trains in their early history, E-trains due to G.O.s, etc. Coupling use of the 63rd Street tunnel, and terminating at 34th Street-Herald Square does not ALWAYS happen, even if it is frequent. It is simple at this G.O. the MTA decided to terminate E-trains at 34th Street. Will that ALWAYS be the case - nope. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted March 8, 2011 Share #19 Posted March 8, 2011 Thanks for the history lesson Mike, but if I'm not mistaken, VIP & M7... were talking about the new R160 program for the via 63rd Street to 34 St-Herald Sq, which was not available prior to the recent announcement update. Prior to the update, the crews had to program the train to 2 Av or via 53rd Street or some other program and make the appropriate announcements so passengers knew the routing of the train wasn't what the signs and announcements said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted March 8, 2011 Share #20 Posted March 8, 2011 Caught 9452 today, one of the only sets to have to 34 St program: Not entirely true, several sets way before this recent re-flashing of sorts had the program. They all had the announcements too but the C/R was told to do the announcements manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted March 9, 2011 Share #21 Posted March 9, 2011 Thanks for the history lesson Mike, but if I'm not mistaken, VIP & M7... were talking about the new R160 program for the via 63rd Street to 34 St-Herald Sq, which was not available prior to the recent announcement update. Prior to the update, the crews had to program the train to 2 Av or via 53rd Street or some other program and make the appropriate announcements so passengers knew the routing of the train wasn't what the signs and announcements said. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Beach Posted March 9, 2011 Share #22 Posted March 9, 2011 Not entirely true, several sets way before this recent re-flashing of sorts had the program. They all had the announcements too but the C/R was told to do the announcements manually. That is correct, but they only had a via 53 St program, not via 63. Or if they did, they never used it and sticked to via 53 st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted March 9, 2011 Share #23 Posted March 9, 2011 That is correct, but they only had a via 53 St program, not via 63. Or if they did, they never used it and sticked to via 53 st. Some sets at the time did have via 63rd though. Not every set had it, so whatever that said via 53rd had to do announcements manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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